fuck brendan and audioslave are at it again!

Echoes

boroff89 wrote:

I downloaded the Destroyer album to give it a listen because of your praise of it. So do me a favor and take a listen to those two Cornell songs, and do so with an open mind.

Done and done. Your argument convinced me to download it like no other. I'm downloading it right now, but it'll have to wait until this black metal album I'm listeneing to right now is done with. What did you think of the Destroyer?

pj_zombie

lastexit78 wrote:

It's funny how much hate Audioslave gets on this board. Not by everyone but there's this select group of PJ fans. They bash any artist from PJ's era that is currently more succesful than PJ. By succesful I mean, either sells more records, plays biggger venues or gets more media attention and praise. Bands like U2, Audioslave, Foo Fighters, and the RHCP fall into this catagory. Sure these bands might not be at their peak. But they're still all very good and way better than most crap out there today. Would you rather these bands retire so Nicklback, Scott Stapp and Good Charlotte can take their places? Why all the bitterness towards them? It has to be jelousy. Does it really bother you people that much that other bands are bigger than PJ? Who cares if Audioslave sells 3 times as well as PJ? As for Audioslave I think they're good. I tend to get tired of them quickly but that doesn't mean they suck. If you don't like a song like Heavens Dead then I really wonder about your taste in music.

I really don't see that too much at all. From what I've seen people dislike Audioslave because they're rather boring and not at all better than the two bands that one was born from. I personally just can't stand Cornell's voice at all. That being said, there's a huge amount of fans here that love most everything that came from the early 90's and went up against PJ. That would include the Screaming Trees, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, etc. I don't know that I can say I've seen a group like the one you speak of.

As for people who say at least Audioslave is better than alot of crap out there, that isn't saying much. Granted people who say that are Audioslave fans but when I see that phrase all I see is "At least they are the best of the worst" or "their the best crap out there". A lot of music listeners don't want the best of the worst but rather the best of the best. For the most part(guessing since I don't listen to the radio), the good stuff worth hearing isn't going to be found on radio stations often. That doesn't hold true entirely as it's certainly possible the radio may get a whiff of some good music and talented bands.

Echoes

What I think of those 2 tracks
Preaching The End Of THe World - pretty average instrumentation (actually, the same for both), some good vocal delivery, but some atrocious lyrics that I just cannot get by me (the whole "friend/end" just kills me and not in a good way). I am not too big a fan of this one

When I'm Down - The Much better of the two. Once again the instrumentation is very standard - stealing a page right out of the verses of the Beatles' "Oh Darling," bu it is quite an enjoyable song. not really what I'm in the mood for now, but a lot better than the rest of CC's solo career(that I've heard, anyways)

ladygooddiva

i think this album blows everthing;) ..it will be good,belive me or more than that...

catefrances

'Hammer Of The Gods'

well i hope this one at least punches me in the head like zeppelin.



'Shape Of Things To Come'

and this one. i'm thinking refused. time to find their inner punk i think.


come on audioslave, give me something that says FUCK YOU! or at least YEAH BABY!

lastexit78

That being said, there's a huge amount of fans here that love most everything that came from the early 90's and went up against PJ. That would include the Screaming Trees, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, etc. I don't know that I can say I've seen a group like the one you speak of.

Every band you mentioned is no longer active. I'm talking about bands from PJ's era that are still active. Bands that are bigger than PJ and get more attention. Name one band that falls into that catagory and still gets consistent respect on this board. It's possible that some do suck. But for almost every band that was popular in the early 90's and still is to get ripped on this board makes me wonder. I think there's a large number of PJ fans who are jelous because PJ has faded into obscurity over they years. While other bands (Green Day, U2, RHCP, DMB, Foo Fighters) are still as popular as ever. But it's not cool to be popular. If Green Day has too many teenage fans then American Idiot sucks. Despte the fact that most PJ fans actually loved it initially and voted it their favorite album of 2004. If Bono is trying to help Africa he must be doing it for the attention. If the RHCP don't bring back the funk then they must be sellouts. It never ends.

lastexit78

That being said, there's a huge amount of fans here that love most everything that came from the early 90's and went up against PJ. That would include the Screaming Trees, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, etc. I don't know that I can say I've seen a group like the one you speak of.

Every band you mentioned is no longer active. I'm talking about bands from PJ's era that are still active. Bands that are bigger than PJ and get more attention. Name one band that falls into that catagory and still gets consistent respect on this board. It's possible that some do suck. But for almost every band that was popular in the early 90's and still is to get ripped on this board makes me wonder. I think there's a large number of PJ fans who are jelous because PJ has faded into obscurity over they years. While other bands (Green Day, U2, RHCP, DMB, Foo Fighters) are still as popular as ever. But it's not cool to be popular. If Green Day has too many teenage fans then American Idiot sucks. Despte the fact that most PJ fans actually loved it initially and voted it their favorite album of 2004. If Bono is trying to help Africa he must be doing it for the attention. If the RHCP don't bring back the funk then they must be sellouts. It never ends.[/quote]

McCready00

political albums are soooo 4 years late..

chrisopalooza

i can't wait for audioslave to break up. i don't even care if soundgarden or rage never re-form, i just want audioslave to stop being so terrible.

reeferchief

chrisopalooza wrote:

i can't wait for audioslave to break up. i don't even care if soundgarden or rage never re-form, i just want audioslave to stop being so terrible.

Look dude there's lots of people out there enjoying Audioslave, you dont have to listen to them you have the choice.

yield2me

Audioslave just sounds weird to me...doesn't fit...the token squeeky guitar riffs with Chris's vocals, not something i'd ever buy or go see in concert...just my opinion

citizen_drew

The world needs more Zeppelin-Earth, Wind & Fire fusion...
Can't wait to hear it.

pj_zombie

lastexit78 wrote:

Every band you mentioned is no longer active. I'm talking about bands from PJ's era that are still active. Bands that are bigger than PJ and get more attention. Name one band that falls into that catagory and still gets consistent respect on this board. It's possible that some do suck. But for almost every band that was popular in the early 90's and still is to get ripped on this board makes me wonder. I think there's a large number of PJ fans who are jelous because PJ has faded into obscurity over they years. While other bands (Green Day, U2, RHCP, DMB, Foo Fighters) are still as popular as ever. But it's not cool to be popular. If Green Day has too many teenage fans then American Idiot sucks. Despte the fact that most PJ fans actually loved it initially and voted it their favorite album of 2004. If Bono is trying to help Africa he must be doing it for the attention. If the RHCP don't bring back the funk then they must be sellouts. It never ends.

I didn't realize you were talking only of active bands. All the same, I see that type of though process you give examples of an every music board, not just PJ. I've seen a great amout of Green Day haters on the Foos board among others. Every message board will have it's group of fans that hate the popular scene as well as those that hate the indie scene, or the underground scene and U2/Bono scene. I just don't see anything unique about this one.

Alessiana

lastexit78 wrote:

That being said, there's a huge amount of fans here that love most everything that came from the early 90's and went up against PJ. That would include the Screaming Trees, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, etc. I don't know that I can say I've seen a group like the one you speak of.

Every band you mentioned is no longer active. I'm talking about bands from PJ's era that are still active. Bands that are bigger than PJ and get more attention. Name one band that falls into that catagory and still gets consistent respect on this board. It's possible that some do suck. But for almost every band that was popular in the early 90's and still is to get ripped on this board makes me wonder. I think there's a large number of PJ fans who are jelous because PJ has faded into obscurity over they years. While other bands (Green Day, U2, RHCP, DMB, Foo Fighters) are still as popular as ever. But it's not cool to be popular. If Green Day has too many teenage fans then American Idiot sucks. Despte the fact that most PJ fans actually loved it initially and voted it their favorite album of 2004. If Bono is trying to help Africa he must be doing it for the attention. If the RHCP don't bring back the funk then they must be sellouts. It never ends.

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huh

my feelings for music aren't affected by.,.. any of this.

Green Day had a good album, but not U2. Elevation was the best song and that was it, whereas Green Day's album improved with repeat listens. U2 I had to put away.

I loved the second foos disk but not so much the first. I may have needed to give it more time. I was listening to Dredg and Porcupine Tree's extensive back catalog for some time, and exploring new bands (new to me - trail of the dead, broken social scene etc) so I may not have given the foos first disk a good chance.

As for audioslave... i've really tried. I tried. i did but it doesn't work for me. Queens of the stone age is another band i've really really really worked hard at liking and it just didn't work for me.

SOAD rocked this year. I wish they'd put both albums out together because it would have been like a sledgehammer into music. They're brilliant.

So I don't get your post.

.

DieasGrey

darkcrow wrote:

huh what??? no idea what you meant there

Out of Exile is trash thats what i means

Big Audio Dynamite

1. Out of Exile sucked, try saying that on audioslave.com and see what happens. :-\

2. Chris Cornell's solo album isn't as great as the cornellie's would like you to believe, most of it is recycled beatles riffs.

3. Euphoria Morning was released in 1999.

facepollution

Big Audio Dynamite wrote:

1. Out of Exile sucked, try saying that on audioslave.com and see what happens. :-\

2. Chris Cornell's solo album isn't as great as the cornellie's would like you to believe, most of it is recycled beatles riffs.

3. Euphoria Morning was released in 1999.

Funny cause I can't stand the Beatles, yet I think Euphoria Morning is an excellent album, Cornell's vocals are outstanding on it. And no Out of Exile didn't suck, songs like #1 Zero, Yesterday to Tomorrow, Man or Animal, Drown me Slowly, Heaven's Dead and the title track were excellent.

Echoes

facepollution wrote:

And no Out of Exile didn't suck,

missed april fool's by a few days.

reeferchief

Big Audio Dynamite wrote:

1. Out of Exile sucked, try saying that on audioslave.com and see what happens. :-\

2. Chris Cornell's solo album isn't as great as the cornellie's believe

3. Euphoria Morning was released in 1999.

1. Comes down to personal taste and opinion, I enjoyed it.

2. What the fuck is a Cornellie? and again personal taste personally i fucking love it.

3. Ditto

facepollution wrote:

Funny cause I can't stand the Beatles

A band I have never got in too neither, maybe it's the way that The Beatles are force fed to you here in england, but something put me off them.

facepollution

reeferchief wrote:

1. Comes down to personal taste and opinion, I enjoyed it.

2. What the fuck is a Cornellie? and again personal taste personally i fucking love it.

3. Ditto



A band I have never got in too neither, maybe it's the way that The Beatles are force fed to you here in england, but something put me off them.

You are dead right about the Beatles thing. Over here it is like you have to like the Beatles, because they are supposedly our best band. I hate the fact that so many people think that this band from 40 years ago couldn't possibly be improved upon.

To be honest, I'd question how much any of the people who don't like Audioslave, really liked their previous bands to begin with. I could understand it from the point of view of someone who was a RATM fan and not a Soundgarden/Cornell fan. But as a fan of Cornell, there is plenty of stuff on both albums that is as good as anything he's done.