Porcupine Tree Pokes Fun at Pearl Jam

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  • reeferchief
    reeferchief Posts: 3,569
    Arctangent wrote:
    they are an excellent English group. i know its hard to believe that there are actually people outside the USA who make music but there are;)

    you should try them out. you never know, you might like them

    I'm from England and I have not heard of them.
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    SunDevil wrote:
    You're sounding alot like a certain man in the white house.
    How long did it take for you to think of that one?
    mrwalkerb wrote:
    It's different because they are acknowledging that it is a reference to the PE record, by doing this (and I think someone already mentioned it) they are changing the context that people approach the album. It's not like the Vanilla Ice thing were he stole the bassline from teh Queen/Bowie song, it's like when Weird Al did his weird al take on teh cover of nevermind. it's called an allusion. That's the difference. It would be hypocritical if they were calling out bands that ape PJ but the whole time were ripping someone else off, this isn't. And if you don't see this than yes it would appear opinions can be wrong
    Did you even read what I've been saying before? I said all of the above and the post you quoted I even said it's different. It's not complete hypocracy - it's not like they are stealing music like the bands they talk about - but in the sense that's it's okay for them to borrow (doesn't matter what or how much) but others can't it certainly is.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Arctangent wrote:
    they are an excellent English group. i know its hard to believe that there are actually people outside the USA who make music but there are;)

    i'm in australia so i can totally believe it. :)
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  • Arctangent
    Arctangent Posts: 614
    icarus wrote:
    this made me laugh. ;) most of the music that i've been listening to in the last 2 years has been british, although i've been listening to a lot more american indie lately.

    anways, porcupine tree are pretty good. i have some friends that really like them. i really dug in absentia but i really need to check out the other stuff. i'll def. give this album a listen.

    glad i gave someone a giggle!

    i can't believe someone has such a bee in their bonnet about the clever use of public enemy's album title though. when you know the band and understand what steve wilson is on about its actually very clever. and lets face it they aren't the first are they. soundgarden nicked badmotorfinger from someone didn't they? who cares. why let something as stupid as that get in the way of a damn good band?
    reeferchief wrote:
    I'm from England and I have not heard of them.

    where on earth have you been then?
  • reeferchief
    reeferchief Posts: 3,569
    Arctangent wrote:


    where on earth have you been then?

    I do live in my own little world;), perhaps I'll download a couple of tracks.:)
    Can not be arsed with life no more.
  • SunDevil
    SunDevil Posts: 10
    danny72688 wrote:
    How long did it take for you to think of that one?

    Did you even read what I've been saying before? I said all of the above and the post you quoted I even said it's different. It's not complete hypocracy - it's not like they are stealing music like the bands they talk about - but in the sense that's it's okay for them to borrow (doesn't matter what or how much) but others can't it certainly is.

    Partial hypocrisy... Now that's a new one. LOL
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    SunDevil wrote:
    Partial hypocrisy... Now that's a new one. LOL
    Guess I'm just making it up as I go ;)
  • JSP552003
    JSP552003 Posts: 222
    danny72688 wrote:
    You are correct. And it is copying on PJs part, but they aren't condemning it like Porcupine Tree has.

    so all you fools
    who sing just like him
    feel free to do so now
    cuz he's dead

    so sing just like him, f***ers
    it won't offend him
    just me
    because he's dead

    pearl jam - 4/20/02
  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    JSP552003 wrote:
    so all you fools
    who sing just like him
    feel free to do so now
    cuz he's dead

    so sing just like him, f***ers
    it won't offend him
    just me
    because he's dead

    pearl jam - 4/20/02
    ......shit.

    LOL touche :cool:
  • DocChicago
    DocChicago Posts: 653
    Just to get back to the "they sound like Pearl Jam... the music is crap" lines that started the thread...

    This is one verse of about 10 in the song, where the narrator (an overstimulated modern teen) dismisses everything around him as boring. He hates everything and is totally disconnected. ("Don't try engaging me... You'll never find a person inside"). We really have no idea what Porcupine Tree thinks of PJ, they just use them as a label and the narrator makes a sweeping generalization. For all we know, the friend's band actually sounds nothing like PJ but the narrator is too disengaged to care.
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