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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,673
    I liked these guys a lot early on. What happened?
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    mookieblalockmookieblalock Posts: 3,177
    brianlux said:

    I liked these guys a lot early on. What happened?

    We got older, their fan base stayed the same age.
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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,906
    Also they started writing shitty songs.
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    I think these guys are awesome.

    I love seeing them at the Gorge every year and am disappointed they aren't there this year. It's such a great event.

    The band has a great sound. The band is accessible. The band plays very well. The band mixes up their setlists. They've got a massive catalogue. They're not pretentious in the slightest.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    kramer73kramer73 Posts: 2,598

    brianlux said:

    I liked these guys a lot early on. What happened?

    We got older, their fan base stayed the same age.
    alright alright alright.
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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,906

    I think these guys are awesome.

    I love seeing them at the Gorge every year and am disappointed they aren't there this year. It's such a great event.

    The band has a great sound. The band is accessible. The band plays very well. The band mixes up their setlists. They've got a massive catalogue. They're not pretentious in the slightest.

    I think they are excellent and unique performers too. Maybe I just burned out on them between 95 and 02, but everything after the Lillywhite Sessions is kinda garbage. I'll give them maybe a dozen good songs post that period, but half of them weren't even recorded. This is a band that got too far in their own heads and started not being interesting because of it.

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    erocshiftyerocshifty Posts: 1,170
    As far as post Lillywhtite DMB is concerned: I really enjoy Big Whiskey and the Little Red Bird e.p. Away from the World didn't really grab me as much, but it was alright. Everyday- To me, was Daves 1st solo record. I don't own it. The Folsom Field show is great, though and has a lot of the Everyday material. Stand Up had some good songs on it, but no real flow as an album to me. Joyride was on a special edition somewhere and that's one of my favorites.

    Everything up to and including, the Lillywhite Sessions, is damn near perfect. Busted Stuff is okay and I mainly listen to it for the 2 songs written and recorded for it. I doubt I'll ever go see them live again, unfortunately. Every show I've went to there has been at least 1 drunken idiot that wants to fight.
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    manitoumanmanitouman In My Head Posts: 1,073
    They have a pre-order for a 5 LP 25th anniversary set limited to 2500. Pretty steep at $175, though. Pre-order ends Wednesday the 12th.
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    dpduke69dpduke69 Raleigh, NC Posts: 187
    Tough concert year without PJ or DMB to follow around. D&T was a cool change this summer though.
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    dpduke69 said:
    Tough concert year without PJ or DMB to follow around. D&T was a cool change this summer though.
    I'm used to no PJ.

    It was shitty without DMB. I love going to the Gorge the last weekend of summer and watching them.

    I can't really complain though: RHCP, U2, Tool in the bag. Tom Petty, GnR, and Metallica to come.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
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    dpduke69dpduke69 Raleigh, NC Posts: 187

    dpduke69 said:
    Tough concert year without PJ or DMB to follow around. D&T was a cool change this summer though.
    I'm used to no PJ.

    It was shitty without DMB. I love going to the Gorge the last weekend of summer and watching them.

    I can't really complain though: RHCP, U2, Tool in the bag. Tom Petty, GnR, and Metallica to come.

    I guess I can't complain either since I'm seeing/have seen RHCP, U2, Tom Petty and GN'R this year lol
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,928
    Why didn't these guys break internationally? Seems to be really confined to the US (or NA)... just like Tyler Perry-movies and Blackberry.
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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,906
    I don't think they put in the time touring there. I know they did do some euro tours, but not like they toured here. On top of that, they came along in the US right as grunge burned out and the Dead ended leaving upper middle class collegiate white kids with nowhere to turn to so that sort of music took over (Hootie, Phish was blowing up huge, Blues Traveller, etc). I don't think Europe really got down with that vibe.

    Hell, I'd posit most of their international tour dates were for American kids studying overseas.


    I think the basic answer is their sound and their timing wasn't right for Europe/Rest of the world. I think they tour decent sized places there every few years.


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    JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,364
    If anyone cares the DMB Live 25 set sold out.
    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
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    ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
    Was there ever a studio version of that song Idea of You? I was at it's debut years ago in Indiana, knew it was a hit if released to radio, yet I have not seen it on any albums or outtakes since then. 
    Thats probably one of maybe ten songs of theirs I've enjoyed since Busted Stuff. 
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    Horse2345Horse2345 Posts: 3,227
    Awesome package deal to see Dave and Tim in Mexico
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,830
    Was before these crowded streets or busted stuff ever released on vinyl?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Horse2345Horse2345 Posts: 3,227
    BTCS was
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,141
    I saw Dave & Tim on their first tour back in the 90s. Jesse Auditorium University of Missouri. Some of the best acoustic guitar work I've ever heard. Got DMB fan club seats from a record rep back in 2002 for a show in Camden. Some frat boy barfed all over us & the people in our section 3 songs in. Left immediately & haven't seen DMB since. 
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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,906
    Was there ever a studio version of that song Idea of You? I was at it's debut years ago in Indiana, knew it was a hit if released to radio, yet I have not seen it on any albums or outtakes since then. 
    Thats probably one of maybe ten songs of theirs I've enjoyed since Busted Stuff. 
    Best I can tell, no. It wasn't. 

    And thats at s the story of post 2000 DMB. Great songs debuted live, forgotten in the studio and we get sub part stuff instead. 
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,149
    one of the most shit i ever saw live!!1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFoKnSD-4wU
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    JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,364
    one of the most shit i ever saw live!!1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFoKnSD-4wU
    Indeed
    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer
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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,906
    Those box set shipping tomorrow still?

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    JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,364
    Those box set shipping tomorrow still?

    I hope so. That's what it originally said.
    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,140
    one of the most shit i ever saw live!!1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFoKnSD-4wU
    Say what?
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
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    one of the most shit i ever saw live!!1

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFoKnSD-4wU
    Please explain.

    Thanks!
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    JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,364
    I took it as a good thing.
    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer
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    dpduke69dpduke69 Raleigh, NC Posts: 187
    Mexico trip booked! Had a 5 year service award at work to pay for airfare so why not start 2018 off right?!
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    JK_LivinJK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,364
    Just received a shipping notice for the DMB25 vinyl set.

    Alright, alright, alright!
    Tom O.
    "I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was twelve. Jesus, does anyone?"
    -The Writer
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    I've never seen DMB live.  It's a close call, but I'd venture to say I was just as big a DMB fan in the 90s as I was Pearl Jam.  Definitely not so much these days as Before These Crowded Streets was the last album I really took in.  I would like to see them at some point, I just worry that I won't know about 90% of the setlist.
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