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    wakey : wakey
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
    PEARL JAM~San Antonio, TX. 4~5~03
    INCUBUS~Houston, TX. 1~19~07
    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
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    aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,118
    Be Sound wrote:
    what time is it in Seattle???
    It is time for birds to chirp!! :D
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    mjbmjb Posts: 1,314
    nsmooth78 wrote:
    liable leagally? cmon

    My understanding of the law is that the aggrieved party (or claimant) would have to suffer damages of some kind to hold the 10c or the band "legally liable" - what damages would anyone have suffered if they announced the band was touring with Ed OR if they "decided to come along"? Bonaroo didn't have to compete with PJ tour sales during the contractual window and ? Fans who "would have gone if they had known, didn't get tickets"...not sure you've got much of a cause of action there.
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    This is terrible. I can't even function. My iphone has become dedicated to checking the boards every 5 minutes.
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    nsmooth78 wrote:
    liable leagally? cmon

    Just seems to me that if Bonaroo has the band sign a contract that they cant announce any of their own tours within a 6 week window (which the leading theory here seems to be) and they proceed to announce an EV solo tour, wait out the 6 week window and then change it to be a PJ tour, that would not be in keeping with said contract.
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    4Powers204Powers20 Posts: 1,218
    I highly doubt the ed solo shows are PJ shows.


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    mjbmjb Posts: 1,314
    Just seems to me that if Bonaroo has the band sign a contract that they cant announce any of their own tours within a 6 week window (which the leading theory here seems to be) and they proceed to announce an EV solo tour, wait out the 6 week window and then change it to be a PJ tour, that would not be in keeping with said contract.

    Ok...I guess we have to see the contract - my earlier point was simply, if PJ didn't compete with Bonaroo during the window, how did the festival suffer any material damages?
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    HatfieldHatfield Posts: 122
    Just seems to me that if Bonaroo has the band sign a contract that they cant announce any of their own tours within a 6 week window (which the leading theory here seems to be) and they proceed to announce an EV solo tour, wait out the 6 week window and then change it to be a PJ tour, that would not be in keeping with said contract.

    I wonder if Wilco fans complain when Tweedy goes solo. I know I didn't. I was so excited to be able to see him alone. I am excited about Ed going out on his own and playing what will be amazing shows.
    Pearl Jam is not playing and that is okay. They will be here soon.
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    Yield72Yield72 Posts: 193
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    Cockle-doodle-dooo!
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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,884
    I think it is safe to say we are a few hours away from the announcement, and I am pretty sure no tickets are going to be on sale today or tomorrow anyway.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
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    mjb wrote:
    Ok...I guess we have to see the contract - my earlier point was simply, if PJ didn't compete with Bonaroo during the window, how did the festival suffer any material damages?

    Yeah, I see your point. But aside from the legal mumbo-jambo (which we cant really comment on without knowing any of the contracts) I think it would be kinda shady anyway - towards fans as well - o announce a solo tour and then change it to a PJ tour. They just wouldnt do that.
    Hatfield wrote:
    I wonder if Wilco fans complain when Tweedy goes solo. I know I didn't. I was so excited to be able to see him alone. I am excited about Ed going out on his own and playing what will be amazing shows.
    Pearl Jam is not playing and that is okay. They will be here soon.

    I don't think any of us were complaining about Ed going solo. The issue was if they had only announced that way because of contractual obligations.
    Well, do you need a lot of what you've got to survive?
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    mjbmjb Posts: 1,314
    Yeah, I see your point. But aside from the legal mumbo-jambo (which we cant really comment on without knowing any of the contracts) I think it would be kinda shady anyway - towards fans as well - o announce a solo tour and then change it to a PJ tour. They just wouldnt do that.

    Don't get me wrong...I don't see it happening - just trying to keep lawsuits in perspective. What the hell do I know anyway, I am Canadian.
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    edwhoedwho Posts: 811
    Metallica announced three additional dates yesterday to their already on sale 2008 EUROPEAN tour.

    Jack Johnson’s WORLD TOUR has been announced and on sale for weeks with shows just before and after Bonnaroo.

    Robert Plant and Alison Krauss same as Jack Johnson.

    Next theory :)

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    nsmooth78nsmooth78 Posts: 36
    mjb wrote:
    My understanding of the law is that the aggrieved party (or claimant) would have to suffer damages of some kind to hold the 10c or the band "legally liable" - what damages would anyone have suffered if they announced the band was touring with Ed OR if they "decided to come along"? Bonaroo didn't have to compete with PJ tour sales during the contractual window and ? Fans who "would have gone if they had known, didn't get tickets"...not sure you've got much of a cause of action there.

    thats what im sayin man, people need to get over this legal crap.
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    BeerBaron wrote:
    Not true. i remember when the canadian tour was announced back in 2005, I woke up one morning to find the news on the 10c web site at about 7 am est.


    yep, I was in the library pulling an all nighter before finals week when the announcement was made late into the night, and if I'm not mistaken they went right on sale immediately...most money I have ever spent in the library for sure...


    here's hoping for some buffalo/toronto news today :D

    let's go sabres
    looking for 2 to Columbia...

    ***GOT EM***
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    Whatever happened to that Worldwide singles compilation that was being rumored a couple of months ago? That's my bet. I hope I'm wrong.

    A new album would be the best news for me (or a Canadian Tour for the fall).
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    mjb wrote:
    Don't get me wrong...I don't see it happening - just trying to keep lawsuits in perspective. What the hell do I know anyway, I am Canadian.

    Me neither, that was my point to begin with. Aside from the legal stuff, why would they wanna announce a solo tour if they wanna make it a PJ tour?
    Well, do you need a lot of what you've got to survive?
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    redrockredrock Posts: 18,341
    BeerBaron wrote:
    That's a stretch. These shows were sold, not only throught the 10C but through Ticketmaster as Eddie Vedder shows - not Pearl Jam shows. There is no way they could just all of the sudden say that these shows are now full band Pearl Jam shows.

    You probably have a point there, as it would be misrepresentation, but nothing stops PJ from opening for Ed! :D
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    dirtyTdirtyT Posts: 3,620
    Eddie Vedder opening for Pearl Jam!
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    Be SoundBe Sound Posts: 199
    BeerBaron wrote:
    Yep. Immediately. I remember dropping a load of cash right then on tickets ... I was so shocked to see shows in Kitchener and London. Hopefully we will get some similar good shock this afternoon.


    and Ottawa... god Ottawa was a GREAT show!
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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,884
    I just remmeber what a pain it was to get tix to the AC Borgata shows- well worth it though
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
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    Jstein1978Jstein1978 Posts: 548
    dirtyT wrote:
    Eddie Vedder opening for Pearl Jam!
    I like that plan
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    marcPJfanmarcPJfan Austin, TX Posts: 802
    CopperTom wrote:
    Austin City Limits. (think Storytellers)
    Wrong. Austin City Limits Music Festival. That's what they've been rumored to perform at.
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    tschavtschav Posts: 2,777
    BeerBaron wrote:
    Yep. Immediately. I remember dropping a load of cash right then on tickets ... I was so shocked to see shows in Kitchener and London. Hopefully we will get some similar good shock this afternoon.

    Doubt they'd have a poster sale and release tickets around the same time today. Maybe an tour announcement, but probably no ticket sales, at least for today.
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    pearljamjenpearljamjen Posts: 13,578
    Okay! It is midweek! I'm ready! :D
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    marcPJfanmarcPJfan Austin, TX Posts: 802
    Okay! It is midweek! I'm ready! :D
    No shit. I've gotta get stuff done today!
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    Okay! It is midweek! I'm ready! :D
    We are ALL ready!
    The waiting is driving me mad........its not here and I'm a mess....
    " to myself i surrender, to the one i'll never please"

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    pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,884
    BeerBaron wrote:
    I doubt we will ever see immediate ticket sales again anyway. If they announce a tour today, ticket sales will liekly begin Friday or Monday.

    I agree if it is a tour announcement
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    nimsu8nimsu8 Posts: 321
    marcdmbfan wrote:
    Wrong. Austin City Limits Music Festival. That's what they've been rumored to perform at.


    Am I the only Pearl Jam fan in the Austin area who would be disappointed if the ACL fest thing is the announcement? i would travel to Dallas, Houston and even other states to see PJ, but the idea of standing in a field in 100+ degree heat for hours standing next to people who haven't showered in 3 days doesn't sound great.
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