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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    r1vers wrote:
    i think you is an awesome song...and stop whispering too. but to say better than the last two is pretty ridiculous. if i had to choose between listening to just there there for the rest of my life or pablo honey i would choose there there.

    the problem with hail to the thief is it's 14 tracks, 60 minutes, and most of it sounds exactly the same. there there might be an ok song, 2+2=5 was as well. but on the whole, the album suffered from too much sameness and too much filler.
  • Tek Money
    Tek Money Posts: 642
    soulsinging wrote:
    the problem with hail to the thief is it's 14 tracks, 60 minutes, and most of it sounds exactly the same. there there might be an ok song, 2+2=5 was as well. but on the whole, the album suffered from too much sameness and too much filler.


    I disagree with this. I think it is full of amazing tracks, sorry you feel this way.
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  • r1vers
    r1vers Posts: 244
    yea sorry...going to have to disagree w/ the comments on HTTT as well. i dont necessarily have the sudden urge to throw on 'we suck young blood' or 'the gloaming'...but in the context of the whole album i like those tracks.

    go to sleep...sail to the moon...wolf at the door...punchup...where i end...
    i could keep going but i'm almost listing every song on the album so i'll shut up.
    "Last time I think we played that song here was like, a long time ago, and there was a bonfire in the back and people were like throwing each other into it...very exciting days but a huge fucking relief that that's not how it is tonight..." Ed Irvine Night 1 2003, after Deep
  • lastexit
    lastexit 10923 Posts: 259
    soulsinging wrote:
    no, it isn't. it took me years to warm up to kid a, but amnesiac flat out sucks. there's maybe one song on there worth hearing. the rest is just mediocre kid a b-sides. hold off for the new album.
    You're ridiculous. How was that Hanson concert?
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    lastexit wrote:
    You're ridiculous. How was that Hanson concert?

    it was excellent. dude can play a pretty mean guitar (more than can be said for radiohead these days... but twiddling dials is almost as cool) and they they really let loose with funky/bluesy jams the likes of which i've not seen since the last time i saw the black crowes. played for about 2 hours, including an excellent acoustic set. they've also got the best vocal harmonies since crosby, still, nash, and young. the floor of the venue was bouncing.

    as to hail to the thief... every song is basically the same. starts off quiet with murky ambient noise and thom yorke mumbling unintelligible vocals, slowly picks up to what you think is a chorus but isn't, then bursts into the same riff only played louder and faster while the drums kick in and thom's gibberish is shouted instead of mumbled. end song.

    i'm sorry, but much as i though amnesiac sucked, at least it was inspired sucking. hail to thief is flat out the least interesting i've ever heard radiohead be.
  • Blind Melon
    Blind Melon Posts: 911
    What I think really makes Kid A/Amnesiac better is when the songs on those albums are played live... I mean, most of those songs were actually recorded electronically, then the jump from electronic to performing it live... just live instruments playing the electronic beats sounds so fucking amazing... Idioteque... honestly, amazing live. Kid A, even amazing live... it may not be that noticeable of a difference between Kid A (studio) and Kid A (live), but for me... it's just so much more emotional live... maybe it's just Thom, ionno... but fuck. And don't even get me started on the "Like Spinning Plates" thing they do live... shit, that's awesome, extremely unrecognizable at first.

    With that said... Kid A has slowly become my favorite Radiohead album... it used to be Hail to the Thief, but yeah, Kid A just took over. I really haven't given Pablo Honey a chance, but when I did, I didn't like it... but I had heard some songs off of it recently and did like it, so I'll revisit that CD after this new one comes out.

    What do you all think the bigger jump is?

    Pablo Honey --> the Bends
    The Bends --> OK Computer
    OK Computer --> Kid A

    Personally, I think Kid A... it was where they really took a different direction... which the whole electronic shit and everything, I mean, there was electronic shit on OK, but not as heavily as Kid A. I put Pablo and the Bends because, I mean, the Bends is fantastic, and just sounds so polished, plus the haunting closing song... it was just a huge step forward for them as artists.... and the Bends to OK Computer because OK Computer is definitely their greatest achievement.
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    Oh, Jimmy wrote:
    I am fairly new to Radiohead. I have Pablo Honey, The Bends, and OK Computer, which are all excellent. Each one improves on the previous, and Pablo Honey sets the bar pretty high.

    Well, I have had a hard time gettin into the rest of their stuff. I can listen to Kid A, but nothin really floats my boat all that much, and Hail To The Thief has some pretty decent "mood" music. I don't have Amnesiac, b/c there has been somethin I want more every time I have thought about buyin it. I will eventually get it, but was wondering if its any good.
    this band is a complete two-face band. i am not a fan at all from their first two albums. ok computer, is ok. ;) and it's my 3rd favorite album. but kid a, is grad a music for me. amnesiac is my second favorite album of theirs. hail to the thief probably is my fourth favorite album of theirs.

    you've gotta change your mindset, in a way, to really enjoy kid a and the rest of the albums. i personally believe those are their real classics and masterpieces. their recent music is that serious for me.
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  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    Blind Melon wrote:
    OK Computer is definitely their greatest achievement.
    i don't know, i just don't see it. i know, to each their own right? but i feel that in ok computer they were still a bit hesitant of truly expressing their musical and creative abilities.

    i feel that the real radiohead is in kid a and amnesiac.... it's like their taxi driver for martin scorsese, their godfather for copolla, their deadman for jim jarmusch, their unforgive for clint eastwood, their soft bulletin for the flaming lips. ahh, which leads me to say, if radiohead hadn't ever released kid a/amnesiac.... they'd never be classified as experimental legends along with the flaming lips.

    if they hadn't ever pulled out kid a or any of their other recent i would've never been big on this band. at all, i don't think.
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  • hodge
    hodge Posts: 519
    kid A is my favorite radiohead album
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    deadnothingbetter wrote:
    i don't know, i just don't see it. i know, to each their own right? but i feel that in ok computer they were still a bit hesitant of truly expressing their musical and creative abilities.

    i feel that the real radiohead is in kid a and amnesiac.... it's like their taxi driver for martin scorsese, their godfather for copolla, their deadman for jim jarmusch, their unforgive for clint eastwood, their soft bulletin for the flaming lips. ahh, which leads me to say, if radiohead hadn't ever released kid a/amnesiac.... they'd never be classified as experimental legends along with the flaming lips.

    if they hadn't ever pulled out kid a or any of their other recent i would've never been big on this band. at all, i don't think.

    i don't think they experimented so much as changed genres. ok computer was experimentation like the soft bulletin. it blurred genres and stretched rock to the breaking point. kid a and beyong were simply radiohead doing electronic/ambient music that was already being done by other artists. they were just the biggest band to get in to the genre. it's like saying that rod stewart was just experimenting when he left the faces and went disco... he wasn't, he was just switching genres. only he moved to a more popular genre and radiohead moved to a less popular one, which is how rod was torn to shreds (that and his music sucked) and radiohead are still critic's darlings.
  • Oh, Jimmy
    Oh, Jimmy Posts: 957
    hodge wrote:
    kid A is my favorite radiohead album

    To each their own, but I honestly can't think of a reason why OK Computer isnt everybodies favorite Radiohead album.
  • HermanBloom
    HermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    I'm sorry but Radiohead sucks. Wayyyyyyy overrated, almost as much as U2. If I have to hear that whiny British schtick again, I'm gonna puke.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    nathanastin wrote:
    I'm sorry but Radiohead sucks. Wayyyyyyy overrated, almost as much as U2. If I have to hear that whiny British schtick again, I'm gonna puke.

    Well, then it wasn't a bright idea to post in a Radiohead thread now was it?

    For those of us w/ a brain, here's an awesome video on Kid A. It's about 45 minutes long, but well worth it.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8304235072627536069
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Well, then it wasn't a bright idea to post in a Radiohead thread now was it?

    For those of us w/ a brain, here's an awesome video on Kid A. It's about 45 minutes long, but well worth it.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8304235072627536069

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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Does anyone have any pro shot concerts from the Hail To The Thief tour? I saw one on Showtime once and it was towards the end and I never saw it again.
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  • reznors edge
    reznors edge Posts: 136
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Well, then it wasn't a bright idea to post in a Radiohead thread now was it?

    For those of us w/ a brain, here's an awesome video on Kid A. It's about 45 minutes long, but well worth it.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8304235072627536069

    Thanks for the awesome link. I'd never seen it before, so it was a nice little treat. Love my Radiohead. O.K Computer ranks right up there with Downward Spiral and Aenima as my personal all-time favorates. Can't understand why some didn't like HTTT, though. I am so looking forward to the new album!
  • deadnothingbetter
    deadnothingbetter Posts: 2,202
    soulsinging wrote:
    i don't think they experimented so much as changed genres. ok computer was experimentation like the soft bulletin. it blurred genres and stretched rock to the breaking point. kid a and beyong were simply radiohead doing electronic/ambient music that was already being done by other artists. they were just the biggest band to get in to the genre. it's like saying that rod stewart was just experimenting when he left the faces and went disco... he wasn't, he was just switching genres. only he moved to a more popular genre and radiohead moved to a less popular one, which is how rod was torn to shreds (that and his music sucked) and radiohead are still critic's darlings.
    well, yeah... ok computer was experimental... didn't mean to imply it wasn't. it's a great album too.

    i personally consider kid a their masterpiece... a status quo album that changed the conventional idea of what "rock" should sound like. not necessarily great because of the electronic sound.... they just delved into a whole new sound entirely on their own by culminating electronic/ambient.
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