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Why do people think all Pop music is inferior to other music?

pushmepullmepushmepullme Posts: 255
edited December 2006 in Other Music
One of my favourite bands is Take That. I'm a 26 year old guy so a lot of people find this a little odd, but I think they're great. I love pop music when its done well, and I think Take That do it very well.

But why do people think pop music, as a genre, is inferior to most other genres?
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  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Can't be too general like that.

    There are some people that simply don't like pop music period, and that gets translated into "pop music sucks". Other people think pop music is manufactured, and hollow artistically. That also gets translated into "pop music sucks".

    I'm somewhere in between. I think MOST pop is manufactured and artistically hollow. But I will listen to Prince or George Michael any day.
  • AzwethinkweizAzwethinkweiz Posts: 547
    pushmepullme wrote:
    One of my favourite bands is Take That.

    i'm sorry, but that's hilarious :D

    but kudos to you, i'm not here to judge.
  • off_the_recordoff_the_record Posts: 843
    i'm a 30 year old guy and i think justin timberlake is great
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  • deadmosquitodeadmosquito Posts: 729
    off_the_record wrote:
    i'm a 30 year old guy and i think justin timberlake is great


    justin timberlake IS great! those performances on snl last week were awesome, as was his acting in the skits.
  • Hitch-HikerHitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    Take Thatt had some top quality songs back in the day. Gary Barlow is a very good songwriter. I haven't heard the new one so I can't comment, but Back For Good, Never Forget, Pray...Top notch pop right there.

    And JT is cool.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Hitch-Hiker wrote:
    Take Thatt had some top quality songs back in the day. Gary Barlow is a very good songwriter. I haven't heard the new one so I can't comment, but Back For Good, Never Forget, Pray...Top notch pop right there.

    And JT is cool.

    man, i hope gayness isnt contagious...
  • elmerelmer Posts: 1,683
    deadmosquito wrote:
    justin timberlake IS great! those performances on snl last week were awesome, as was his acting in the skits.
    awww come on!! hes a pubic haired twat,,,,,fuckin "futuresex" whos he think hes kiddin
  • mwachsmanmwachsman Posts: 474
    soulsinging wrote:
    man, i hope gayness isnt contagious...

    Lol
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  • pizzaboynizzapizzaboynizza Posts: 31
    Don't deny yourself from listening to something you enjoy just because you feel it's "hollow". It's just music.

    I agree with you guys about Take That, they have something that's quite haunting about a lot of their melodies.

    Meh, I'm not a big fan of Justin Timberlake. I like some of his music but as far as he goes I feel he's overrated.
  • BUENABUENA Posts: 165
    pushmepullme wrote:
    One of my favourite bands is Take That. I'm a 26 year old guy so a lot of people find this a little odd, but I think they're great. I love pop music when its done well, and I think Take That do it very well.

    But why do people think pop music, as a genre, is inferior to most other genres?


    Pop music is like candy. You eat it and it tastes good but too much of it will rip the holy hell out of your stomache lining.
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  • SoupySoupy Posts: 171
    I love Duran Duran, The Bangles and A-Ha. However I draw the line at Take That.
  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    Because most people couldn't write a pop song if their lives depended on it.

    I don't poo-poo pop anymore. It doesn't resonate with me, but that's because I'm not really hip to pop culture and what it needs to feel good about itself...which is what pop music does.
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  • Restless SoulRestless Soul Posts: 805
    pushmepullme wrote:
    One of my favourite bands is Take That. I'm a 26 year old guy so a lot of people find this a little odd, but I think they're great. I love pop music when its done well, and I think Take That do it very well.

    But why do people think pop music, as a genre, is inferior to most other genres?


    Is this new take that or old? I hated the old one but the new song (Patience) is pretty good!

    I think the problem with pop music is that is is seen as music being made for money's sake, with most of the money going to pop "swengalis" like simon cowell etc who "manufacture" acts for the market, as opposed to artists doing it for themselves. Back in the 80s it was Stock Aitken and Waterman and I think they were the ones who really gave pop music a bad name and its stuck.

    One of the reasons I prefer All Saints over Girls Aloud (YUK!) is because the girls in All Saints did it themselves like a band does - they got together themselves, wrote their own songs etc. They didn't have someone telling them what to do, what to wear, what to sing etc to fit a formula, (at least as far as I know they didn't.) That's what I admire anyway.
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  • fadafada Posts: 1,032
    Music in the sixties was all pop music until maybe 67 when people had different genres etc...
    Pop Music of the bands that I like(don't buy their albums but the songs are catchy).
    Sugababes the best female group for a very long time. Prefer their very early songs.
    I really liked "All about you" by Mcfly
    Most of pop is manufactured music with drummachines and very little originality but some out there isn't half bad
  • BeatrizBeatriz Posts: 52
    I like some pop music, but most of it is really bad. I like Lilly Allen, but i guess she's not mainstream pop.
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  • *given*to*fly**given*to*fly* Posts: 325
    sometimes pop music can be fun .... mostly it just sucks balls tho
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  • bovy_jbovy_j Posts: 1,008
    I'm not saying pop music is inferior to all music, rap music is inferior to all other music.

    Some pop tunes aren't too bad, but..most are. Nothing compares to the crap that is called rap.
  • Restless SoulRestless Soul Posts: 805
    bovy_j wrote:
    I'm not saying pop music is inferior to all music, rap music is inferior to all other music.

    Some pop tunes aren't too bad, but..most are. Nothing compares to the crap that is called rap.


    rap music isn't inferior! But I guess whatever floats. :eyeroll:
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  • brhf9brhf9 Posts: 1,475
    I don't.
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  • AzwethinkweizAzwethinkweiz Posts: 547
    bovy_j wrote:
    Nothing compares to the crap that is called rap.

    Not all rap sucks.

    IE; the roots, mos def.
  • fadafada Posts: 1,032
    I detest rap , hip hop and techno music.
  • bladworth116bladworth116 Posts: 344
    My fav bands are Pearl Jam, R.E.M., etc. but I've always thought Roxette were great!
  • pjfan020pjfan020 Posts: 426
    because it is.



    but that's just me
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  • larslars Posts: 524
    because it is
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  • A Surprise LeftA Surprise Left Posts: 743
    A lot of it is terrible but some of it is great, particulary if you are at a party and you don't want anything too serious. Some awesome pop songs include "Angels" from Robbie, "Sexyback" (or whatever its called) from JT and just about any Michael Jackson tune.
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  • Gossard_Is_GodGossard_Is_God Posts: 1,031
    Azwethinkweiz wrote:
    Not all rap sucks.

    IE; the roots, mos def.

    and jurassic 5
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  • concretepillowconcretepillow Posts: 264
    Gossard_Is_God wrote:
    and jurassic 5
    They are pretty good.
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  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    Soupy wrote:
    I love Duran Duran, The Bangles and A-Ha. However I draw the line at Take That.
    I agree. 80s pop is where it's at. Today's pop (Gwen Stefani,Fergie,Paris,etc.) is just borderline stupidity at it's ugliest.
  • mdigenakismdigenakis Posts: 1,337
    POPular music isn't bad. Even PJ was POPular at one point in the early. If by pop you mean the soda POP candyass genre we had in the late 90's ( Knockin on the Backstreet Boys and co.), then it sucks bawls. I don't like most pop music today, but thats me.
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  • StereotypeStereotype Maribor, Slovenia Posts: 885
    There only is GOOD and BAD music, regardless of the genre.

    But..I have to say I think you can make some kind of scale..if you must that is..If you set up some criteria like complexity of all the instruments or how unique some riff is or I don't know, you could look at all the instruments separatly what they're playing..and then country sounds cheap in comparison to jazz...but then again..sometimes simple is better or it fits the song more...so..I think we shouldn't measure but look each song from it's own perspective..
    Good music is, if it expresses what all of the other "tools" (fine art, language..) cannot...
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