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orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
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or, rather, the choice is mine. It's a difficult decision I'm faced with this time around. I'll be attended at least one of the MSG shows, as will many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many other fan club members. The last time they played MSG, in '03, I utilized the 10club for tix and ended up sitting somewhere in the stratosphere among mountain goats. the shows were incredible, but i was amazed at just how far away I ended up. I found out later that there were something like 8,000 10club members in attendance at both those shows. of course, many were long-standing members who have made a habit out of traveling across the globe to see this band, and all of those fans seemed to have had seats in front of mine. No grips, no pissiness on my part ... i understand my place in the pecking order, even though I feel that 8 years in the 10club is pretty decent. But that amounts to shit when the entire fan club flocks to your hometown show. again, it's cool, I dont mind ... dont flame me.

so here's the dilemma. get 10club tix and hope for the best. OR, ticketmaster and hope for the best.

I'll have to decide swiftly, by Wednesday at 9am or 12pm or whatever. when do tix go on sale here in the east, anyway?
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  • voodoopugvoodoopug Posts: 1,011
    long red wrote:
    or, rather, the choice is mine. It's a difficult decision I'm faced with this time around. I'll be attended at least one of the MSG shows, as will many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many other fan club members. The last time they played MSG, in '03, I utilized the 10club for tix and ended up sitting somewhere in the stratosphere among mountain goats. the shows were incredible, but i was amazed at just how far away I ended up. I found out later that there were something like 8,000 10club members in attendance at both those shows. of course, many were long-standing members who have made a habit out of traveling across the globe to see this band, and all of those fans seemed to have had seats in front of mine. No grips, no pissiness on my part ... i understand my place in the pecking order, even though I feel that 8 years in the 10club is pretty decent. But that amounts to shit when the fan club flocks to your hometown show. again, it's cool, I dont mind ... dont flame me.

    so here's the dilemma. get 10club tix and hope for the best. OR, ticketmaster and hope for the best.

    I'll have to decide swiftly, by Wednesday at 9am or 12pm or whatever. when do tix go on sale here in the east, anyway?

    The fan club allotment will more than likely be much better than anything you'd see on TM. the non fan club tickets that are any good (if there are any) will not be made available to the public.
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  • skere26skere26 Posts: 304
    depends on the venue.

    for camden i always go with fanclub cause the venue has a slant so no matter where u are u will see something.

    my pittsburgh experience on the other hand, i was back i think in triple ZZZ on the floor and couldn't see a thing.
  • mjbmjb Posts: 1,315
    With the "lottery" this becomes even harder doesn't it? Almost encourages people to try and get my 10c tix and ticketmaster and make a showtime decision...how do you not take that shot you're gonna be right upfront
  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    mjb wrote:
    With the "lottery" this becomes even harder doesn't it? Almost encourages people to try and get my 10c tix and ticketmaster and make a showtime decision...how do you not take that shot you're gonna be right upfront

    exactly. stressful times are ahead.
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  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    Also, do you think a single ticket (I'll probably end up going by myself anyways) on TM would give me a better spot than a pair through the 10C? My number is 390 something, so I have no idea. I've never bought tickets through the 10C, much less been to a PJ show at all...
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,935
    long red wrote:
    or, rather, the choice is mine. It's a difficult decision I'm faced with this time around. I'll be attended at least one of the MSG shows, as will many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many other fan club members. The last time they played MSG, in '03, I utilized the 10club for tix and ended up sitting somewhere in the stratosphere among mountain goats. the shows were incredible, but i was amazed at just how far away I ended up. I found out later that there were something like 8,000 10club members in attendance at both those shows. of course, many were long-standing members who have made a habit out of traveling across the globe to see this band, and all of those fans seemed to have had seats in front of mine. No grips, no pissiness on my part ... i understand my place in the pecking order, even though I feel that 8 years in the 10club is pretty decent. But that amounts to shit when the entire fan club flocks to your hometown show. again, it's cool, I dont mind ... dont flame me.

    so here's the dilemma. get 10club tix and hope for the best. OR, ticketmaster and hope for the best.

    I'll have to decide swiftly, by Wednesday at 9am or 12pm or whatever. when do tix go on sale here in the east, anyway?

    would you mind sharing approximately what your 10C number is, if you don't mind of course? :)
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    I'm 407xxx and just decided I'm going through ticketbastard. I think it'll get me better seats then what my number can, especially since it looks like a lot of fucking people are going, and all have better numbers than I do, unfortunately.

    not only that, but i plan on bringing more than 1 person with me. I just hope I don't get shut out of the TM sale.
  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Posts: 3,024
    Do both.

    Keep the better pair of tix, and sell the others to friends.

    That's what I did back on 03. Worked out well.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    CantKeepmedown wrote:
    Do both.

    Keep the better pair of tix, and sell the others to friends.

    That's what I did back on 03. Worked out well.
    When do you find out what seats you got from your 10c tix?
  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    my 10club number: 218xxx
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  • faithful2youfaithful2you Posts: 779
    _FiveAgainstOne_ wrote:
    When do you find out what seats you got from your 10c tix?
    at the venue when you pick them up....day of show.
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,935
    long red wrote:
    my 10club number: 218xxx

    thanks for sharing,...do you recall exactly where your seats were at the MSG show/s?
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    100 Pacer wrote:
    thanks for sharing,...do you recall exactly where your seats were at the MSG show/s?


    MSG1 - sec 128

    MSG2 - sec 203

    not horrible, but not good enough!
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,935
    long red wrote:
    MSG1 - sec 128

    MSG2 - sec 203

    not horrible, but not good enough!

    while i have no illusions about where a 131XXX number would end up receiving 10C tickets given the demand, i think i'd MUCH prefer to be in the wings as close to the stage as possible rather than the back of the floor at MSG hehe :)

    thanks for your help, by the way,...
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • 138xxx138xxx Posts: 60
    Hope this helps, in 2003 at MSG1 I was in the back of the front section of the Floor and at MSG2 I was in the front row of the 2nd floor section. See you there!
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,935
    138,xxx wrote:
    Hope this helps, in 2003 at MSG1 I was in the back of the front section of the Floor and at MSG2 I was in the front row of the 2nd floor section. See you there!

    that does help actually :D thanks for sharing, thanks a lot!
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • dustinparduedustinpardue Posts: 1,829
    138,xxx wrote:
    Hope this helps, in 2003 at MSG1 I was in the back of the front section of the Floor and at MSG2 I was in the front row of the 2nd floor section. See you there!


    I am a 155xxx and I was in those same sections
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    long red wrote:

    so here's the dilemma. get 10club tix and hope for the best. OR, ticketmaster and hope for the best.


    I think you should go with Ticketmaster for sure
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    just remember, your chances of actualy GETTING a ticket are much better with 10c than Ticketmaster.

    If you want to risk getting shut out on tickets by NOT going for the 10C sale and waiting for the TM general public sale,

    just know that you could end up in the 400s or shit out of luck.

    That being said, like others have mentioned, if your number is over 200K and you are looking for tickets to the most popular venues (MSG being probably the top of that list, then maybe Boston) ... you are going to be 20+ rows back, or "in the stratosphere".

    :D

    I know with my just under 100k number, i was rows 12 and 13 for MSG in 2003.
    Just to give you guys a feel for how popular that place is.

    :D
    and i had no complaints,
    except for the control freak a-hole girls 4 seats down constantly trying to yell at my friend and i for smoking up ... STFU and mind your own business meanies.
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  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,201
    I'm going to try for fan club for both and then when they go on ticketmaster try to get a single for the second show
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  • nfanelnfanel Posts: 2,558
    long red wrote:
    and ended up sitting somewhere in the stratosphere among mountain goats.
    lol. :D
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
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  • RITFWinCORITFWinCO Posts: 217
    When I went to the Denver 06 shows it seemed liked 10C and ticketmaster seats were mixed together. There was some guy who was sitting in front of me (i am 203xxx) who bought his tickets on Ticket Master.

    I was baffled as to how he was sitting in front of me.
  • pineapplesandwavespineapplesandwaves Posts: 584
    skere26 wrote:
    depends on the venue.

    for camden i always go with fanclub cause the venue has a slant so no matter where u are u will see something.

    my pittsburgh experience on the other hand, i was back i think in triple ZZZ on the floor and couldn't see a thing.
    Speaking of venue lay outs, what is the Tweeter Centre like?
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    pineapplesandwaves wrote:
    Speaking of venue lay outs, what is the Tweeter Centre like?

    It's an ampitheatre on the waterfront.
    tweeter ... center.

    It is what it is.
    An ampitheatre.

    I don't like outdoor shows.
    :(
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  • poto101poto101 Posts: 406
    RITFWinCO wrote:
    When I went to the Denver 06 shows it seemed liked 10C and ticketmaster seats were mixed together. There was some guy who was sitting in front of me (i am 203xxx) who bought his tickets on Ticket Master.

    I was baffled as to how he was sitting in front of me.


    tom petty screwed with the 10C for those shows.

    in milwaukee my friends scalped 15th row tickets for $140 a piece. my $100 10c tix were probably 70 rows back.
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  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    mjb wrote:
    With the "lottery" this becomes even harder doesn't it? Almost encourages people to try and get my 10c tix and ticketmaster and make a showtime decision...how do you not take that shot you're gonna be right upfront


    yea, i agree...

    any other tour i would (wish i would have) have bought tickets through ticketmaster...no questions asked.

    but now with this lottery...


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  • mouthfulofsoupmouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    dustinpardue wrote:
    I am a 155xxx and I was in those same sections

    I'm 155 as well, & was in one of the front sections on the side, which I'd much prefer to the way back of the floor, being 5' 3" & all. Obviously the closer the better, but as long as they don't fuck me over like last tour & have NO tix for me when I get there, I'll take what I can get. :)
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  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    mouthfulofsoup wrote:
    I'm 155 as well, & was in one of the front sections on the side, which I'd much prefer to the way back of the floor, being 5' 3" & all. Obviously the closer the better, but as long as they don't fuck me over like last tour & have NO tix for me when I get there, I'll take what I can get. :)

    no tix? you mean you bought tix and then they didnt have any fore you? how did that happen?
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  • mouthfulofsoupmouthfulofsoup Posts: 397
    long red wrote:
    no tix? you mean you bought tix and then they didnt have any fore you? how did that happen?

    They fucked up, that's what happened. This was for Chicago, night 1, I get to the window & they don't have shit. They finally contact Kerensa & I ended up getting some shitty ass seats in the boonies (not even in the FC section.) At least I got in the building though, the 2nd night the same fucking thing happened. This time they couldn't get in touch with ANYONE at TC & I got royally fucked with no tix & didn't get to see the show. (I didn't have enough cash on me to see if there was anything at the window...as I wasn't planning on having to purchase tix.)They were the only 2 shows I was able to go to that tour too. I almost canceled my membership I was so pissed. (Of course now I'm glad I didn't as I woulda only hurt myself.) lol.

    *Deep breath*

    This time will go as smooth as previous years I'm hoping. :)
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