well I wish you would rant. what I have gathered so far is that over the past 30 years he has had an incredible Unplugged performance and Behind the Sun. I am not doubting either of those (because I have neither) nor have I doubted his guitar playing. I have that double live CD 24 Nights and his Robert Johnson cover disc. Though nice listens nothing there in my mind to write home about. His lick and solo on Forever Man are incredible.
What my simple question was, is that did he do anything groundbreaking over the past 30 years (not 35, not 40)? I may now check out all of Behind the Sun. I don't know a single Clapton freak so yeah, rant on.
Just to mention, I did not mean to come across as sarcastic incase that's how it sounded, I was being genuine. I believe Clapton has been incredibly groundbreaking. One of the things that stands out is his constant revitilisation of Blues and the wide variety of musical traditions he has been able to incorporate into his music, while still retaining an authentic blues sound and feeling. Also his ability to cover a range of genres is breathtaking. Although the point most noteworthy is what he does live, I saw him in concert a few years ago and he had put a huge range of musical instruments into his show, some songs were sounded new. I can understand a lot of people saying "Yeah he's good but he's not really done anything new", I didn't 'get it' for a while but ater listening to a few of his influences I began to see just how much he had done with their music and his own. If you like some of his stuff then I suggest you invest in a few records, many can be goten cheap now and they are well worth the buy.
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Just to mention, I did not mean to come across as sarcastic incase that's how it sounded, I was being genuine. I believe Clapton has been incredibly groundbreaking. One of the things that stands out is his constant revitilisation of Blues and the wide variety of musical traditions he has been able to incorporate into his music, while still retaining an authentic blues sound and feeling.
I had no doubt you were being serious. I guess perhaps my issue with him is that it all boils down to one genre. blues. I think of other artist, Waits, Dylan, Costello, Young and I view those guys as ones who take a risk here and there. Tough to pigeonhole those guys. Sure they all boil down to blues based however Clapton never attempted an Arc type disc, nor has he attempted collaborations as obscure as what Costello has done. Dylan to this day puts out outstanding CD's with a few bad experiments along the way. Me and Mr. Johnson wasn't exactly a big direction change. Once again, if I'm wrong, point me to a CD.
As I said earlier, I don't know a Clapton freak, I don't know that I have ever seen any solo disc of his in anybody's top 20. I am not even sure many people could name a CD. Some people appear content with him sitting on his groundbreaking work during the 60's. Fine with me.
I am being picky as hell because he is a legend and I would like to hear him attempt something else. It doesn't sound like to me that he has pushed himself and perhaps he is content with doing what he has always done. Just my view on it. thanks for sharing yours.
I had no doubt you were being serious. I guess perhaps my issue with him is that it all boils down to one genre. blues. I think of other artist, Waits, Dylan, Costello, Young and I view those guys as ones who take a risk here and there. Tough to pigeonhole those guys. Sure they all boil down to blues based however Clapton never attempted an Arc type disc, nor has he attempted collaborations as obscure as what Costello has done. Dylan to this day puts out outstanding CD's with a few bad experiments along the way. Me and Mr. Johnson wasn't exactly a big direction change. Once again, if I'm wrong, point me to a CD.
As I said earlier, I don't know a Clapton freak, I don't know that I have ever seen any solo disc of his in anybody's top 20. I am not even sure many people could name a CD. Some people appear content with him sitting on his groundbreaking work during the 60's. Fine with me.
I am being picky as hell because he is a legend and I would like to hear him attempt something else. It doesn't sound like to me that he has pushed himself and perhaps he is content with doing what he has always done. Just my view on it. thanks for sharing yours.
I own most of Clapton's solo stuff...except for the mid 80s and early 90s stuff....that period is utter shite.
I can't believe he's even comparing Coldplay and U2 really :eek:
I mean come on! Coldplay, in my opinion, are boring and I don't like them. However U2 are still a decent rock band.
True, U2 has dropped off a bit, but they are rocknroll halloffamers, and have some great material. I somehow doubt Coldplay will make the hall, but then again, can you picture the hall of fame in 20 years with the quality of current bands? Perhaps Blink-182 will get in in 2020. At one time, as the saying went, "Clapton Is God", and he put his heart into the music. Outside of PJ and a few others, it's more about image appeal now more than ever. I loved MTV as a child, but now I say, "take back my fucking MTV".
"The one's who love us best, are the one's we'll lay to rest. Visit their graves on holidays, at best. The one's who love us least, are the one's we'll die to please..." The Replacements
I can't believe he's even comparing Coldplay and U2 really :eek:
I mean come on! Coldplay, in my opinion, are boring and I don't like them. However U2 are still a decent rock band.
True, U2 has dropped off a bit, but they are rocknroll halloffamers, and have some great material. I somehow doubt Coldplay will make the hall, but then again, can you picture the hall of fame in 20 years with the quality of current bands? Perhaps Blink-182 will get in in 2020. At one time, as the saying went, "Clapton Is God", and he put his heart into the music. Outside of PJ and a few others, it's more about image appeal now more than ever. I loved MTV as a child, but now I say, "take back my fucking MTV".
"The one's who love us best, are the one's we'll lay to rest. Visit their graves on holidays, at best. The one's who love us least, are the one's we'll die to please..." The Replacements
I had no doubt you were being serious. I guess perhaps my issue with him is that it all boils down to one genre. blues. I think of other artist, Waits, Dylan, Costello, Young and I view those guys as ones who take a risk here and there. Tough to pigeonhole those guys. Sure they all boil down to blues based however Clapton never attempted an Arc type disc, nor has he attempted collaborations as obscure as what Costello has done. Dylan to this day puts out outstanding CD's with a few bad experiments along the way. Me and Mr. Johnson wasn't exactly a big direction change. Once again, if I'm wrong, point me to a CD.
As I said earlier, I don't know a Clapton freak, I don't know that I have ever seen any solo disc of his in anybody's top 20. I am not even sure many people could name a CD. Some people appear content with him sitting on his groundbreaking work during the 60's. Fine with me.
I am being picky as hell because he is a legend and I would like to hear him attempt something else. It doesn't sound like to me that he has pushed himself and perhaps he is content with doing what he has always done. Just my view on it. thanks for sharing yours.
Isn't asking for more from Eric Clapton like asking for more from say Michael Jordan in his realm? It's Eric fucking Clapton for god's sake.
Eric Clapton hits out at Coldplay and U2
Wednesday, May 17 2006, 14:48 BST - by Fiona Edwards
Eric Clapton disapproves of bands like U2 and Coldplay as they seem
to put their fame before their music.
The 61-year-old guitar legend told The Times: "Right now, the power
of music sits with Simon Cowell and Coldplay and U2, who are really
people who just attend awards shows.
"From just listening I can't tell the difference between Coldplay and
U2. The one in Coldplay even dances like Bono."
Clapton said that he's also worried that modern bands are forgetting
where rock and roll has come from.
He said: "I think what it shows is how incredibly detached all the
current stuff is from its roots. What worries me about what's going
on now is that people don't know where it's all come from, and I
don't suppose they're that interested."
has clapton ever wrote a good song? EVER? tears in heaven i guess. geez he's not exactly a song writing wiz, he should stick to his adult contemporary soft rock crap and not worry about what other bands do
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has clapton ever wrote a good song? EVER? tears in heaven i guess. geez he's not exactly a song writing wiz, he should stick to his adult contemporary soft rock crap and not worry about what other bands do
he blows coldplay and U2 out of the water, in my books.
he blows coldplay and U2 out of the water, in my books.
I'll second that. and I'm not really that big of a fan.
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A) U2 kills anything Clapton has ever touched
B)Yeah Coldplay's not that great
C) They are in no way easy to mix up
D) Fuck Clapton
E) I actually do like CLapton
F) But he does have a lot of stuff that sucks and he hasnt done much good in almost 30 years
I've faced it, a life wasted, and I'm never going back again.
I haven't heard anything decent out of U2 since that song they did for the batman soundtrack
Then you aren't listening.... All You Can't Leave Behind was a great album... Atomic Bomb wasn't bad either, but I prefer AYCLB, it had a Joshua Tree feel to it..
Coldplay on the other hand is total shit and I've been saying it for years... they rode in on the coattails of Radiohead, popified it and are now U2-esque... Chris Martin has an ego like no man in his position should.... That song "Yellow" off the first album is a rip of Karma Police.. then they started ripping Kid A guitar riffs... now, as someone pointed out, it's like Travis and Bono are being forced to breed and Coldplay is their offspring.
Then you aren't listening.... All You Can't Leave Behind was a great album... Atomic Bomb wasn't bad either, but I prefer AYCLB, it had a Joshua Tree feel to it...
I dunno, I listened to all of Atomic Bomb, liked it at first but soured on it fast, and I pretty much hated ATYCLB. Just not my thing, sorry dude.
i don't really understand the diss to U2, but this was awesome. i love it when real musicians bash fake musicians. U2 is pretty solid, so i don't understand that, but dising coldplay is so necessisary right now. the fact that they play arenas and not high school assemblies is beyond me. fuck yeah clapton!!!
Not until they change the laws of human biology anyway.
But the U2 ipod commercial was to promote U2's catalog becoming available on itunes, not drastically different than say, a televison commercial for the album "Pearl Jam" aired right after the band Pearl Jam played a song from said album "Severed Hand" on Saturday Night Live on April 15th.
Its well documented that U2 took no money for the ipod commercial.
However I think you'll find Slowhand took a rather sizeable payment from Anheuser Busch for the use of "After Midnight".
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Just to mention, I did not mean to come across as sarcastic incase that's how it sounded, I was being genuine. I believe Clapton has been incredibly groundbreaking. One of the things that stands out is his constant revitilisation of Blues and the wide variety of musical traditions he has been able to incorporate into his music, while still retaining an authentic blues sound and feeling. Also his ability to cover a range of genres is breathtaking. Although the point most noteworthy is what he does live, I saw him in concert a few years ago and he had put a huge range of musical instruments into his show, some songs were sounded new. I can understand a lot of people saying "Yeah he's good but he's not really done anything new", I didn't 'get it' for a while but ater listening to a few of his influences I began to see just how much he had done with their music and his own. If you like some of his stuff then I suggest you invest in a few records, many can be goten cheap now and they are well worth the buy.
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I remember those beer commercials Clapton did back in the 80s. And then Neil Young did that video where he made fun of them.
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As I said earlier, I don't know a Clapton freak, I don't know that I have ever seen any solo disc of his in anybody's top 20. I am not even sure many people could name a CD. Some people appear content with him sitting on his groundbreaking work during the 60's. Fine with me.
I am being picky as hell because he is a legend and I would like to hear him attempt something else. It doesn't sound like to me that he has pushed himself and perhaps he is content with doing what he has always done. Just my view on it. thanks for sharing yours.
I own most of Clapton's solo stuff...except for the mid 80s and early 90s stuff....that period is utter shite.
True, U2 has dropped off a bit, but they are rocknroll halloffamers, and have some great material. I somehow doubt Coldplay will make the hall, but then again, can you picture the hall of fame in 20 years with the quality of current bands? Perhaps Blink-182 will get in in 2020. At one time, as the saying went, "Clapton Is God", and he put his heart into the music. Outside of PJ and a few others, it's more about image appeal now more than ever. I loved MTV as a child, but now I say, "take back my fucking MTV".
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True, U2 has dropped off a bit, but they are rocknroll halloffamers, and have some great material. I somehow doubt Coldplay will make the hall, but then again, can you picture the hall of fame in 20 years with the quality of current bands? Perhaps Blink-182 will get in in 2020. At one time, as the saying went, "Clapton Is God", and he put his heart into the music. Outside of PJ and a few others, it's more about image appeal now more than ever. I loved MTV as a child, but now I say, "take back my fucking MTV".
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Isn't asking for more from Eric Clapton like asking for more from say Michael Jordan in his realm? It's Eric fucking Clapton for god's sake.
has clapton ever wrote a good song? EVER? tears in heaven i guess. geez he's not exactly a song writing wiz, he should stick to his adult contemporary soft rock crap and not worry about what other bands do
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he blows coldplay and U2 out of the water, in my books.
I'll second that. and I'm not really that big of a fan.
B)Yeah Coldplay's not that great
C) They are in no way easy to mix up
D) Fuck Clapton
E) I actually do like CLapton
F) But he does have a lot of stuff that sucks and he hasnt done much good in almost 30 years
Some die just to live.
Coldplay on the other hand is total shit and I've been saying it for years... they rode in on the coattails of Radiohead, popified it and are now U2-esque... Chris Martin has an ego like no man in his position should.... That song "Yellow" off the first album is a rip of Karma Police.. then they started ripping Kid A guitar riffs... now, as someone pointed out, it's like Travis and Bono are being forced to breed and Coldplay is their offspring.
I dunno, I listened to all of Atomic Bomb, liked it at first but soured on it fast, and I pretty much hated ATYCLB. Just not my thing, sorry dude.
But the U2 ipod commercial was to promote U2's catalog becoming available on itunes, not drastically different than say, a televison commercial for the album "Pearl Jam" aired right after the band Pearl Jam played a song from said album "Severed Hand" on Saturday Night Live on April 15th.
Its well documented that U2 took no money for the ipod commercial.
However I think you'll find Slowhand took a rather sizeable payment from Anheuser Busch for the use of "After Midnight".