Rise Against

ledvedderman

I have to admit I know nothing of this band. What are the like? With a name like "Rise Against" I assume they're political, but I could be wrong. I'm kind of debating whether to get a CD of theirs.

sapperskunk

Unless you're into the latest influx of bad pop rock, I personally would advise against it.

But then again, I'm the biggest music snob on the planet.

To each his own my man.

Answers_In_Playdoh

They're really not too bad... I really like 'Blood to Bleed' and 'Swing Life Away'

hailhail82

I like they're first couple records more than their latest. There definately is a sense of the pop/screamo thing being added more and more.

Red Lukin

sapperskunk wrote:

Unless you're into the latest influx of bad pop rock, I personally would advise against it.

But then again, I'm the biggest music snob on the planet.

To each his own my man.

I'm totally with you about their music...but again I'm also a music snob

Alex_Coe

I'm no music snob... but RA is not that great, or at least that's what I've seen.

boroff89

sapperskunk wrote:

Unless you're into the latest influx of bad pop rock, I personally would advise against it.

But then again, I'm the biggest music snob on the planet.

To each his own my man.

They don't fit into that category at all, so I guess I wonder whether you have even listened to them. What are you basing this on? When I think of bad pop (or pop punk, which is what I gather you mean), I think of Fall out Boy and Panic at the Disco. Rise Against has absolutely nothing in common with those bands.

Rise Against is quite political. They quote Daniel Quinn and Howard Zinn in their liner notes. They write quite a bit about the working class. All in all, I think they do a great job of it. The Sufferer and the Witness is my favorite album of theirs. In fact, it was one of my top 5 albums of the year last year. Outstanding from start to finish.

Gary Carter

sapperskunk wrote:

Unless you're into the latest influx of bad pop rock, I personally would advise against it.

But then again, I'm the biggest music snob on the planet.

To each his own my man.

i love when people talk out of there fucking ass's on here. rise against are the most not pop band out there, there anti-war and bout anti every thing else, there for animal rights too. i saw these guys open up for life agony before there were nobodys years ago

sapperskunk

metsfan531941 wrote:

i love when people talk out of there fucking ass's on here. rise against are the most not pop band out there, there anti-war and bout anti every thing else, there for animal rights too. i saw these guys open up for life agony before there were nobodys years ago

Yeah, cause I don't know what I'm talking about. :rolleyes:

Isn't green day anti-war also? And aren't they teeny bop pop rock?

If this guys looking for a political message with his music, he can do a lot better than these kids.

Listening to cookie cutter, dime a dozen bands is no way to go through life, you should get out more. There's a whole world of music out there, you just have to peel yourself away from popular trends and Mtv.

facepollution

sapperskunk wrote:

Yeah, cause I don't know what I'm talking about. :rolleyes:

Isn't green day anti-war also? And aren't they teeny bop pop rock?

If this guys looking for a political message with his music, he can do a lot better than these kids.

Listening to cookie cutter, dime a dozen bands is no way to go through life, you should get out more. There's a whole world of music out there, you just have to peel yourself away from popular trends and Mtv.

dude they really aren't as bad as you're saying, I'm not sying they are ultra original, but they have strong principles and write decent melodies. the video for their song Ready to fall is really good too, check it out: http://youtube.com/watch?v=pmoB2svMld8

chris01

The only song ive heard of theirs is Swing Life Away, its nothing new in terms of genre/style, but i think ill probably get the album cause i quite like that one.

sapperskunk

facepollution wrote:

dude they really aren't as bad as you're saying, I'm not sying they are ultra original, but they have strong principles and write decent melodies. the video for their song Ready to fall is really good too, check it out: http://youtube.com/watch?v=pmoB2svMld8

Atleast you can see they're obviously not original. I hope they truly believe those principles an aren't just cashing in on the likes of impressionable angst filled youth.

Good video.

Gary Carter

sapperskunk wrote:

Yeah, cause I don't know what I'm talking about. :rolleyes:

Isn't green day anti-war also? And aren't they teeny bop pop rock?

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green day are not anti-war, they said they are to make the $$$. rise against have been anti-war every since they started out. oh btw there music videos arent even played on trl, trl is too pc for them.and yes they truly believe those principles

Pearl Jam and toast

They're allright.

facepollution

metsfan531941 wrote:

green day are not anti-war, they said they are to make the $$$

um and you would know that how?! personal friend of the band I take it!

ledvedderman

I'm pretty sure "Holiday" shows that Green Day is anti-war...

Gary Carter

facepollution wrote:

um and you would know that how?! personal friend of the band I take it!

dude look at there past cds, it was all bout life and love and stuff, no metion of politics until american idiot

Pearl Jam and toast

metsfan531941 wrote:

dude look at there past cds, it was all bout life and love and stuff, no metion of politics until american idiot

exactly.

Along with a complete image makeover to sell themselves to the Fuse TV crowd they also jumped on the political bandwagon.

Gary Carter

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

exactly.

Along with a complete image makeover to sell themselves to the Fuse TV crowd they also jumped on the political bandwagon.

exactly.i respect rise against alot more then gd cause rise against havent made a fake political cd at all.they always have been political

No_ones_rival

Rise against is the only new school punk band I can stand

facepollution

metsfan531941 wrote:

dude look at there past cds, it was all bout life and love and stuff, no metion of politics until american idiot

dude they're all pushing 35 so it's natural that they are writing about different things, and pretty much EVERYONE is more into politics now after 9/11, the 'war on terror', and the general way Bush and co are fucking with the world. Like I've said to other people, American Idiot was a huge gamble for the band, it came out at a time when American patriotism had hit fever-pitch, it could well have bombed. I'm not saying everybody should love the band or that album, but it's success was largely due to the fact that people could identify with the simplified message the band was trying to push, which wasn't just about politics, but was a general 'stand up for your rights' message. It's no wonder a new generation of kids have taken to them so much, because they are giving them a positive message that it doesn't matter what other people think about you. In that sense I don't see it as being any different from how I fell for bands like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Alice in Chains etc when I was young and impressionable - they were just as commercial in the hey day, yet they still had strong beliefs which I identified with. I think a lot of people can't see past the way Green Day's music and image has been manipulated by the media and companies that want to trade off it, which isn't entirely their fault. And lastly, the band shifted enough copies of Dookie to never have to work again, so money was hardly their main priority.