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Looks like the Van Halen tour is off....

The DarknessThe Darkness Posts: 41
edited February 2007 in Other Music
At least according to Rolling Stone: http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/02/21/the-official-word-van-halen-tour-kaput/

This wouldn't surprise me in the least. For the past 10 years, this band has been the biggest punchline in the rock music world.
I've got to admit, it's getting better.
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  • No_ones_rivalNo_ones_rival Posts: 385
    actually, they are the SECOND biggest punchline right behind the new GnR and Chinese Democracy... but not surprised one bit.
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  • Dick JonesDick Jones Posts: 777
    s_rockvam wrote:
    actually, they are the SECOND biggest punchline right behind the new GnR and Chinese Democracy... but not surprised one bit.

    My thoughts exactly.
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  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    s_rockvam wrote:
    actually, they are the SECOND biggest punchline right behind the new GnR and Chinese Democracy... but not surprised one bit.

    Oh come on now. I saw the new GNR in November and they were pretty good. It would have been even better if half the crowd hadn't left before the show even started.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    s_rockvam wrote:
    actually, they are the SECOND biggest punchline right behind the new GnR and Chinese Democracy... but not surprised one bit.
    As someone else mentioned earlier, at least this version of GnR has actually played some dates.

    Van Halen III might make that the biggest punchline in rock.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    EVH is out of his tree. Van Halen is done forever.
  • No_ones_rivalNo_ones_rival Posts: 385
    DOSW wrote:
    Oh come on now. I saw the new GNR in November and they were pretty good. It would have been even better if half the crowd hadn't left before the show even started.

    They may have been pretty good, but the fact that they have been playing the fans for 10 years with this mythical album that may or may not come out and the rotating members is the punchline I was referring to. I really hope that the fans that are still around really enjoy it if it ever does come out!
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Posts: 12,223
    cutback wrote:
    EVH is out of his tree. Van Halen is done forever.

    Who needs him, anyway? Let's get Sammy Hagar in, on guitar. A few Cabo Wabos, and who'll know the difference? ;):D
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Who needs him, anyway? Let's get Sammy Hagar in, on guitar. A few Cabo Wabos, and who'll know the difference? ;):D

    I think you'd need a lot of Cabo Wabo to hear a reunited VH. :eek: ;)
  • dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    The Darkness wrote:
    At least according to Rolling Stone: http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/02/21/the-official-word-van-halen-tour-kaput/

    This wouldn't surprise me in the least. For the past 10 years, this band has been the biggest punchline in the rock music world.
    *insert shocked, amazed, stunned and who gives a flying f*ck face right................about..............................here

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  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Posts: 4,154
    tybird wrote:
    Van Halen III might make that the biggest punchline in rock.

    I'll admit to hearing only a few selected tracks and that was nearly 9 years ago. Was the Cherone era that bad?

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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    DOSW wrote:
    Oh come on now. I saw the new GNR in November and they were pretty good. It would have been even better if half the crowd hadn't left before the show even started.
    No, you saw washed up Axl Rose and his new band which he called Guns 'N Roses.
  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Posts: 4,154
    aNiMaL wrote:
    No, you saw washed up Axl Rose and his new band which he called Guns 'N Roses.

    I know a lot of folks are down on Axl, but the demos I've heard from Chinese Democracy are quite good.

    I don't agree with the delay in the release and the circus that surrounds him, but the music is still on point.

    PBM
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    And on the VH subject.....like we didn't see this coming!

    Sad, but I didn't expect this to happen. Too damn bad that Eddie has such a grudge towards his lifelong bass player for being friends with Sammy. Because it still wouldn't have been the real deal without Michael Anthony.

    Van Halen should accept the fact that they are retired and no more. They should all put their differences aside (all of them; Eddie, Alex, Michael, David, and Sammy)....and they should all show up and gracefully accept their induction and maybe play one or two songs. Then go home and enjoy retired life.
  • The DarknessThe Darkness Posts: 41
    I wonder if Van Halen will even be able to play the obligatory 3 song set at their Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction?
    I've got to admit, it's getting better.
  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Posts: 4,154
    The Darkness wrote:
    I wonder if Van Halen will even be able to play the obligatory 3 song set at their Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction?

    Again, I can't wait to watch the train wreck unfold on VH1.

    PBM
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    I'll admit to hearing only a few selected tracks and that was nearly 9 years ago. Was the Cherone era that bad?

    PBM
    I'll admit to hearing only one.......Cherone did not know who he wanted to sound like DLR or Sammy.....I could hear bits of both in his vocals. I refer to it as a joke because of the massive numbers of copies that got shipped to stores only to take up space in said stores.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    The Darkness wrote:
    I wonder if Van Halen will even be able to play the obligatory 3 song set at their Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction?
    That may depend on what or who gets defined as Van Halen on that particular evening. :rolleyes:
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    Check it out. Jeez, what a fuck-up. Who would have thought that Roth would come of as the sane one?

    Van Halen's road plans have taken a rocky turn
    February 22nd, 2007


    From: http://www.latimes.com/

    By Geoff Boucher, Times Staff Writer
    February 23, 2007

    For Van Halen, the stars seemed aligned for a triumphant 2007. Next month, the group will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and the plan was to follow that with a summer reunion tour that would feature David Lee Roth back at the mike for the first time since the Reagan years.

    But, once again, the backstage soap opera of Van Halen is the story of the day.

    The Van Halen tour has been "shut down," according to a top official at Live Nation, the huge concert promoter that finally surrendered in the face of the chaos surrounding guitar hero Eddie Van Halen. Roth, meanwhile, says he is unsure whether the mercurial guitarist will even travel to New York for the Hall of Fame induction on March 12.

    "We have fragile politics in Van Halen; please accept that as a partial answer," Roth said. "But I don't know if the Van Halens are going to go....I hope they do, but right now, I just don't know. Hope springs eternal."

    Eddie Van Halen declined interviews through his publicist and girlfriend, Janie Liszewski. Conversations with the business team behind the tour paint a picture of a rock star who is somewhere between Axl Rose and Michael Jackson on the music industry scale of eccentric recluses. The result is that the Van Halen venture imploded before takeoff, even as the Police, the Eagles and Genesis have efficiently geared up for lucrative reunion tours.

    "I cannot tell you how frustrating and completely nuts this has been," one key business figure in the tour said while asking not to be identified on the outside chance that the reunion might be salvaged. "Right now, I have to say, I don't see that happening."

    It's a disheartening situation for the fans who pine for a Roth-led lineup of the iconic metal band. Among those devoted is Wolfgang Van Halen, the 15-year-old son of Eddie and, according to Roth, a key force behind the reunion.

    Wolfgang, a precocious musician, was "the maestro" at the reconstituted band's lone rehearsal, picking the set list and using his iPod to remind his father of the nuances of his solos on the old albums. Wolfgang was tapped by his father to play bass on the tour too, replacing founding member Michael Anthony, a jolting choice considering the child's age and Anthony's status as one of rock's best backup singers and most relentlessly cheerful presences.

    Eddie Van Halen remains, by all accounts, a gifted guitarist and rock auteur, but the decision to jettison Anthony in favor of a teenager may have been the first sign that the new enterprise was guided by creaky logic. Now all eyes will be on the Hall of Fame banquet to see who shows up, who performs and how Roth interacts with old rival Sammy Hagar, the man who replaced him as lead singer in 1985 and who will be inducted as an equal.

    On Valentine's Day, when the tour still looked viable, Roth was all smiles as he sat down for an interview in a bungalow at Chateau Marmont. The 52- year-old was wearing a snappy black suit and the short haircut that has recently replaced his old pro-wrestler cut. He still flashes a karate smile, but the singer seems calmer and more focused than in years past. The reason, he said, is that he's fresh from working as an emergency medical technician in New York. It's a longtime dream of his to be a paramedic, and the unglamorous gurney and rubber-glove duty humbled him, he said.

    "I was working in neighborhoods that were almost exclusively black and Spanish-speaking, so only maybe twice out of 200 clients was I recognized.... I was joking about this in the truck on New Year's Eve, which was my last shift -- I was working in Brooklyn, down in Coney Island -- I said that I've been in more project apartments than Jay-Z and Diddy combined."

    Roth was the rock frontman on top of the world when he went solo, but -- as Mick Jagger and Robert Plant also learned -- fans treasure him more when he was side-by-side with an equal on guitar. Roth seemed like a vainglorious sex panther in Van Halen, but on his own he often came off as a relentless jive salesman whose only product was his own past. Roth is still "on" all the time -- he calls it his "incandescent personality" -- but lately he comes off as the voice of reason, a pretty stunning change.

    That, and the financial prospects, made him jump at the chance to work with Eddie Van Halen again. Of the old days, he says: "There was a lot of sparks and a lot of tension, like your favorite movies, especially those underground ones.... There was a lot of anxiety too, but it was about ambition, not ego."

    Roth was optimistic that the band would follow up the tour with new music; he also pointed to the cache of 1996 recordings that he did with Van Halen during an earlier reunion flirtation. Now it appears the entire output of this new reunion was a single rehearsal in January and a photo shoot with Roth and Eddie, Wolfgang and Alex Van Halen. Alex is Eddie's older brother and the band's drummer.

    "Hearing it again, that's an elixir.... What we sell is that we make all the guys feel young and invincible and all the girls feel young and desirable," Roth said. "I watched it happen to everybody that was listening in the studio."

    Van Halen was a monster of rock and, for a time, arguably the biggest band in the world. According to the Recording Industry Assn. of America, Van Halen albums have shipped more than 56.5 million copies, which is more than the career totals of U2, Celine Dion, Shania Twain or Prince.

    Roth said that he and Anthony will be in New York for the Hall of Fame, as will Hagar, the affable "red rocker."

    Last month, Hagar publicly chided Eddie Van Halen for taking his son on tour. He also added that "the guy is a genius, but he's just out there and it's hard for people around him."

    In 2004 and 2005, Van Halen toured with Hagar and, according to Pollstar, grossed $55 million playing arenas. But Hagar said that Eddie Van Halen was drinking heavily and, on some nights, it showed. In Chicago, Eddie stumbled throughout the set and, at one point, quit playing and sacked out, telling the crowd: "I done run outta gas."

    There were tender scenes too. With the tour winding down in Los Angeles, for instance, Wolfgang came on stage at the Staples Center to play. The body language of father and son made it clear that they reveled in the shared spotlight. Roth said that that affection led to the hopes for the Van Halen reunion.

    "I'm going to put some words in Ed's mouth," Roth said. "Whatever explanation he may give about having his son in the band, I'm going to superimpose: He wants to play with his kid while he's still at the top of his game and able to ... and that's also the same reason I'm in the band in its current configuration. No questions asked. He said, 'Hey, c'mon up the hill and make some music.' I said, 'Great. I'd love to play with you while you're still on the top of your game.' "

    Roth smiled, but a moment later, when he was asked about what he feared most about the reunion, he didn't hesitate with his answer: "The two worst words in the English lexicon are 'band meeting.' "
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  • gossardstradlingossardstradlin Posts: 324
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Again, I can't wait to watch the train wreck unfold on VH1.

    PBM

    Absolutely. Those guys (Dave and Ed) always have the nicest things to say to each other after one of these falls through.

    Not surprising at all.
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  • somebodyelsessky2020somebodyelsessky2020 Posts: 1,173
    ohh fuck it. why come back anyway they'd just totally destroy the past for alot of people who saw them back then. Dave doesn't have the voice or the stage presence he once had anyway, and it's like a freak show now. 15 year old wolfie on bass. and freaky ED just boots mike anthony like he's a piece of shit after all these years? no loyalty what an assfuck he must really be. I say all 3 van halens ed, wolf, and alex make a jam album and keep it in the family. and shut the fuck up about a reunion with david lee roth once and for all and if and when they finally do it . i hope nobody shows up and they have to cancel the bullshit fucking tour. it's wayyy to late now anyway. this should have happened in 1990's and it might have meant something. all i see it meaning now is cash flow re-up for them and a bogus product for the fans. and on another note the police sucked on the grammys sting should continue his boring solo career because he sang roxxanne just as he sings all his boring solo stuff and ruined it. i was excited about the reunion until seeing that and now i won't pay 20 bucks to see them and for sure not paying the 200.00 + ticket prices they are trying to rape the fans for.
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  • nowayimfaithfullnowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
    aNiMaL wrote:
    And on the VH subject.....like we didn't see this coming!

    Sad, but I didn't expect this to happen. Too damn bad that Eddie has such a grudge towards his lifelong bass player for being friends with Sammy. Because it still wouldn't have been the real deal without Michael Anthony.

    Van Halen should accept the fact that they are retired and no more. They should all put their differences aside (all of them; Eddie, Alex, Michael, David, and Sammy)....and they should all show up and gracefully accept their induction and maybe play one or two songs. Then go home and enjoy retired life.


    I started to sit down and read rolling stone, and the vh article was insane, in this months mag obviously written 3 weeks ago

    well we are considering taking dave back but eds son wolfgang is our new bassplayer mike decided to leave and be in the other ones, and
    ed quote unquote

    you cannot be in 2 bands

    what a freak

    talk about wasted time

    he fucked up a great band
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  • edwhoedwho Posts: 811
    Eddie Van Halen called into Howard Stern last September.

    I found this quote in Rolling Stone “Michael Sobolewski [Michael Anthony’s real last name] is out touring with ‘the little red rocker’ … I mean the little red worm. I got no problem with these guys, but they’re billing themselves as the other half of Van Halen. My brother is the other half of Van Halen. They’re out there selling hot sauce and tequila and playing all my songs. It doesn’t bother me. It just makes them a cover band.” This was right before the Michael Anthony dismissal.

    This is a good site for Van Halen news: vhnd.com

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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,690
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    I'll admit to hearing only a few selected tracks and that was nearly 9 years ago. Was the Cherone era that bad?

    PBM
    In actuality, its not such a bad album. (side note, I have my CD jacket autographed by Gary, he and Eddie did an acoustic thing at the Hard Rock Cafe in Boston prior to playing the FleetCenter on the VH3 tour, EVH autographed my copy of Rollingstone from that year with him on the cover).
    It has a few very good songs, a few OK songs, and one total piece of crap ("How Many Say I"), which EVH handles the "vocal" on.

    If it had come out without any expectations, it might have been better received, but the press (and a lot of fans) were just waiting to pan the project.

    And Gary did an excellent job fronting the band in concert, frankly he is the best singer of the 3, but fans just wouldn't accept him.
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  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Posts: 4,154
    Poncier wrote:
    And Gary did an excellent job fronting the band in concert, frankly he is the best singer of the 3, but fans just wouldn't accept him.

    It's one thing to follow Roth (which, surprisingly, Sammy pulled off), but it's nearly impossible to follow both.

    I guess he was dead before he even got in the water.

    PBM
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,690
    PissBottleMan wrote:

    I guess he was dead before he even got in the water.

    PBM
    Pretty much.

    So how's the baby?
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  • stonesgstringstonesgstring Posts: 4,613
    cutback wrote:
    EVH is out of his tree. Van Halen is done forever.

    "Up here in my tree....." EVH sings to himself ;):D

    From that photo though DLR looks like he's aged A LOT :eek:
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  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Posts: 4,154
    http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003549557

    A prospective Van Halen tour with original frontman David Lee Roth has derailed. Sources tell Billboard.com the decision to postpone the outing indefinitely was not due to any internal strife among band members. Insiders close to the situation say a tour is still in the works and will happen, though when is anybody's guess.

    The tour, negotiations for which were first tipped here on Jan. 24, will feature Roth, Eddie and Alex Van Halen, and Eddie Van Halen's teenage son Wolfgang on bass. A spokesperson for the Van Halen brothers confirmed the tour in a Feb. 3 press release.

    Indeed, wheels were in motion for a 40-date, Live Nation-produced amphitheatre tour to be announced Feb. 20, including venues and on-sale dates.

    The Van Halen camp has yet to make any official announcement about the postponement or the reasons behind it.

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • oldermanolderman Posts: 1,765
    might as well...

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    As she slams the door in his drunken face
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    He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
    What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
    Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
    And his tears fall and burn the garden green
  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    s_rockvam wrote:
    actually, they are the SECOND biggest punchline right behind the new GnR and Chinese Democracy... but not surprised one bit.


    bingo.
    d'oh!!!!!!

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  • lockedlocked Posts: 4,038
    I predict the tour will happen..
    Alex and Eddie, David (and all the people they support) reallly need the money..

    Promoters are seeing easy $$$..

    But no doubt the tour will be a bust at some point mid-way through
    (aka Eddie will collapse on stage)..

    so those of you who get some of the earlier dates, get your boot-legs on!

    Its gonna get real ugly real fast

    (picture Jimmy Page touring with "The Firm", so messed up he had to play while seated on a folding chair)..
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