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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Joe2TheRevenge wrote:
    here's some soul for you....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61k041I4aEo&feature=related

    it even has all the cute head shaking that comes along with "soulful" guitar playing.


    Pfffffft. No tone = no soul.
  • LuthienTinuviel
    LuthienTinuviel Posts: 125
    i love jimi hendrix...it's unbelieveable that this music is about 40 years old...still sounds so frsh and exciting and great...and there never was a better guitar player (ok, mccready and frusciante are close ;))

    top ten...hmm

    little wing
    all along the watchtower (love bob dylan as well)
    castles made of sand
    the wind cries mary

    ...i cannot rate the rest...

    peace
    "now i've got room to spread my wings and my messages of love...yeah love was my drug but that's not what i died of"

    "I don't wanna think, I wanna feel"

    "Go then, there are other worlds than these!" - Jake Chambers

    09/02/2005 Vancouver
    09/23/2006 Berlin
    06/21/2007 Düsseldorf
  • boroff89
    boroff89 Posts: 786
    Jellyrolls wrote:
    You lose a credibility saying that Tremonti is not a good player. That is also one of the stupidest things i have ever heard about guitars and guitar players.

    He blows. He has no soul. I have yet to hear a solo of his that enhances a song. It's typically him just trying to play as fast as he can. There's a lot more to playing guitar than speed.

    Hendrix changed the art of guitar playing. He hit notes that connect with me emotionally/spiritually in a way that no other guitar player can. There are so many perspectives on what makes a great guitar player. I don't give a fuck about technique. I don't give a fuck about "songwriting" (that's for the Jimmy Page folks). For me, it is all about the reaction created in me by the guitarist. Hendrix creates the strongest reaction in me. SRV and McCready are next in line.

    As for that Buckethead clip, he's a good guitar player in a sense. There's still no soul there. To compare him to Hendrix is blasphemy. He creates little feeling for me.
    It makes much more sense to live in the present tense.
  • marker_in_the_sand
    marker_in_the_sand Posts: 272
    Fly on little wing...

    When he sings that line... it gives me chills... he sounds so sad :o

    Love for Little Wing
    I don't want to be the fool that's behind me but I am...

    I'll Hold The Pain... Release...

    Yourself
  • rhcpjam1029
    rhcpjam1029 Posts: 1,982
    Legend.
    Beavis: All my friends are brown and red? What does that mean?
    Butthead: It means that his friends are like turds and that they like suck.
    Beavis: Heh heh. Oh yeah. Yeah! Get those spoons out of my face before I shove them up your butt!
    Butthead: Huh huh.
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Joe2TheRevenge wrote:
    that was just a showing of his skill

    if you're interested in "soul" (which to me is what people attribute to guitarists who are simply minimalists who like to close their eyes alot) then listen to Buckethead's albums "Colma" or "Electric Tears"....the man will have you crying.
    I never once said that Buckethead couldn't play, or even that he doesn't have some good songs. I'm well aware that he makes experimental albums that don't just feature shredding. I was just expressing my distaste that you thought the best way to highlight his superiority was to post a video of him running through some scales as fast as he could.

    Give me Hendrix or *shock* Frusciante over that any day. And don't try to say I don't know because I'm not a musician. yes I am. I went through the "shred is cool" phase and ultimately came to realise that it means fuck all.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    All along the watchtower
    Hear my train a comin'
    Red house
    Still raining, still dreaming
    Angel
    51st anniversary
    Bold as love
    Steppin stone
    Fire
    Crosstown traffic

    And to the poster mentionning buckethead, are you crazy? Boring guitarists who play 44 nps can be found anywhere, a guitarist like jimi hendrix... not so much
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Kann wrote:

    And to the poster mentionning buckethead, are you crazy? Boring guitarists who play 44 nps can be found anywhere, a guitarist like jimi hendrix... not so much
    exactly. a quick search for "shred" on youtube will show you thousands of bedroom shredders without an ounce of creativity that can run rings around Hendrix in terms of speed and technique but they are boring as hell and there's a reason why they are stuck in their bedroom.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Yeah, Buckethead is boring as hell...

    I was just at Jimi's grave in July...pretty cool monument.
  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 1,683
    Would'nt be able to settle on a top ten.

    I know its a cover but 'Hear My Train a'Comin' blows me away, especially the latter solo from the Band of Gypsys show. For me, many of his blues covers demonstrate his guitar greatness best and I don't mean those on the studio albums.
    Star Spangled Banner just gets on my nerves, know some will view this as blasphemy but I wonder if he himself considered it notable in comparison to his other work(Im already aware of the symbolism of it).

    as for Buckethead, well, maturity cannot be depended on eh.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FpwgUXWrEY
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    elmer wrote:
    Would'nt be able to settle on a top ten.

    I know its a cover but 'Hear My Train a'Comin' blows me away, especially the latter solo from the Band of Gypsys show. For me, many of his blues covers demonstrate his guitar greatness best and I don't mean those on the studio albums.
    Star Spangled Banner just gets on my nerves, know some will view this as blasphemy but I wonder if he himself considered it notable in comparison to his other work(Im already aware of the symbolism of it).

    as for Buckethead, well, maturity cannot be depended on eh.

    Hear My Train a Comin' is a Hendrix original!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIwAKVw8Y8
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    exactly. a quick search for "shred" on youtube will show you thousands of bedroom shredders without an ounce of creativity that can run rings around Hendrix in terms of speed and technique but they are boring as hell and there's a reason why they are stuck in their bedroom.


    Nope, very few of them have good vibrato, and their bends are usually sharp or flat. They certainly couldn't manage both at the same time. Even with the tuning problems Jimi's prehistoric Strats suffered, he'd make sure those bends hit the spot.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Hear My Train a Comin' is a Hendrix original!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIwAKVw8Y8
    love that version
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Nope, very few of them have good vibrato, and their bends are usually sharp or flat. They certainly couldn't manage both at the same time. Even with the tuning problems Jimi's prehistoric Strats suffered, he'd make sure those bends hit the spot.
    nah fins, you know that's not right. Jimi made a lot of screw-ups live but who cares? those bends might hit the spot but they aren't necessarily pitch perfect. I know that one of the biggest turn offs for me in terms of guitar players is being flawless. Jimi's playing was certainly rough in places but that's part of the beauty.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • greenspirit
    greenspirit Posts: 64
    Comparing Jimi to anyone is ridiculous, but for those hating on buckethead,
    listen to Population Override, it is his funky, jazzy, blues masterpiece. You will find soul on this record. If you think the only thing that Buckethead can do is shred, you haven't listen to enough of his work. Easily one of the most versatile guitar players out there.

    Jimi's music stands the test of time, that is the true mark of greatness.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    nah fins, you know that's not right. Jimi made a lot of screw-ups live but who cares? those bends might hit the spot but they aren't necessarily pitch perfect. I know that one of the biggest turn offs for me in terms of guitar players is being flawless. Jimi's playing was certainly rough in places but that's part of the beauty.


    No he didn't. Ever. Not one. Nope. Nada. Zilch. So there. :cool:
  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    No he didn't. Ever. Not one. Nope. Nada. Zilch. So there. :cool:
    :D you be crazy man.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    elmer wrote:
    Would'nt be able to settle on a top ten.

    I know its a cover but 'Hear My Train a'Comin' blows me away, especially the latter solo from the Band of Gypsys show. For me, many of his blues covers demonstrate his guitar greatness best and I don't mean those on the studio albums.
    Star Spangled Banner just gets on my nerves, know some will view this as blasphemy but I wonder if he himself considered it notable in comparison to his other work(Im already aware of the symbolism of it).

    as for Buckethead, well, maturity cannot be depended on eh.
    Not only it's his but it's also one of the greatest blues song ever recorded (well at least I think so!). And he didn't need blues cover to show his greatness: redhouse and voodoo chile (the studio version of that one) are incredible.
    He played star spangled banner live, just for the symbolism I guess. You can't really consider it as one of his songs.
  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 1,683
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Hear My Train a Comin' is a Hendrix original!
    Oh. Dearie me.

    Spent hours in my late teens trying to learn to play Red House, had the tab plastered to the wall level with my eyeline and the song on the ready in the cassette player. Never happened, not even close, well I did clock the backing part but that was little consolation. In the end I just played along with the track the best I could. There were no mirrors involved. Honest.

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