The help! How do you get this effect? - thread!

RVM2003MFC

Ok... Just so everythign can be put into one thread and help out fellow guitarists.

1st off.
Im sure its Mike who does it, but he can get this spacey type effect going, heard when they play songs like Interseller Overdrive, the intro to Sad, in Porch solos and the breakdown in RearviewMirror.
Its hard to describe, but the only words i can think of are 'spacey and a warble effect'

Im going to say that its obvious that theres alot of delay used, but i want to know what else mike would use, or what you can use?
Its just a cool little effect.

Help a brother out?

keeponrockin

RVM2003MFC wrote:

Ok... Just so everythign can be put into one thread and help out fellow guitarists.

1st off.
Im sure its Mike who does it, but he can get this spacey type effect going, heard when they play songs like Interseller Overdrive, the intro to Sad, in Porch solos and the breakdown in RearviewMirror.
Its hard to describe, but the only words i can think of are 'spacey and a warble effect'

Im going to say that its obvious that theres alot of delay used, but i want to know what else mike would use, or what you can use?
Its just a cool little effect.

Help a brother out?

It's a vibe of somesort. Univibe or Univibe clone. I use a Rotovibe.

ianvomsaal

Yeah - agree'd - it's a UniVibe, or something similar from his MM4.
Mike uses both Line6 DL4 & MM4 pedals, and something like an H&K Rotosphere.
Take a look at his pedal board:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/goodtruant/CCFA06/Dsc01847.jpg
Cheers . . .

- Ian C.T. vom Saal

xtremehardy388

Now, he uses the Rotosphere and Line 6 MM4 Modeler. As for delay, he has the Line 6 DL4 delay and the AD9 Analog Delay by Ibanez. I just want to know how Mike hits a certain note in the studio version of Nothing As It Seems. I have a Fender Blender to help me get the distortion but it's an amazing sounds. Right after the first chorus and before the first big solo. It fades into the solo.

Pearl Jam and toast

Sadly Mike doesn't use the Flender live :(:(:(:(

xtremehardy388

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

Sadly Mike doesn't use the Flender live :(:(:(:(

Yeah but doesn't Ed? Or hasn't he (I should say). I saw a picture somewhere on here where it was in front of him on this past tour.

exhausted

no, that was an amp switcher in front of ed.

Pearl Jam and toast

exhausted wrote:

no, that was an amp switcher in front of ed.

Yeah, if Ed used the flender we'd know it immediately. The box does resemble it a little though.. when I first saw the picture that's what I initially thought but then I realized how little sense that made and got a better picture.

dont_go_on_me

xtremehardy388 wrote:

As for delay, he has the Line 6 DL4 delay and the AD9 Analog Delay by Ibanez.

Mike uses a boss DM-3/2 generally, although i suppose it is possible he's used an AD9 before.

xtremehardy388

Yeah, I jused looked at the picture that I had saved. You're right, sorry about that one. It's a BOSS. Both BOSS and Ibanez used the same colouring.

MichaelMcKevin

I'm glad someone started this thread cuz I've been wondering too, especially with the "Porch Solo" example. A Rotosphere is over double what i want to spend, so i looked up some other vibe type pedals and came across the Voodoo Lab Microvibe. It received some pretty good reviews. Has anyone here had any experience with one? http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Voodoo-Lab-Micro-Vibe-Pedal?sku=153500

keeponrockin

GivenToCarve wrote:

I'm glad someone started this thread cuz I've been wondering too, especially with the "Porch Solo" example. A Rotosphere is over double what i want to spend, so i looked up some other vibe type pedals and came across the Voodoo Lab Microvibe. It received some pretty good reviews. Has anyone here had any experience with one? http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Voodoo-Lab-Micro-Vibe-Pedal?sku=153500

I've never played with that, but I have a Rotovibe and would reccomend that to anyone. It kicks ass!

xtremehardy388

GivenToCarve wrote:

I'm glad someone started this thread cuz I've been wondering too, especially with the "Porch Solo" example. A Rotosphere is over double what i want to spend, so i looked up some other vibe type pedals and came across the Voodoo Lab Microvibe. It received some pretty good reviews. Has anyone here had any experience with one? http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Voodoo-Lab-Micro-Vibe-Pedal?sku=153500

The Rotovibe is also pretty cool. With the vibrato setting, you can get a live 'Ed' sound if you try.

MichaelMcKevin

xtremehardy388 wrote:

The Rotovibe is also pretty cool. With the vibrato setting, you can get a live 'Ed' sound if you try.

Like MFC Style? Can u give me an example?

ianvomsaal

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ianvomsaal

RVM2003MFC wrote:

Ok... Just so everythign can be put into one thread and help out fellow guitarists.
1st off.
Im sure its Mike who does it, but he can get this spacey type effect going, heard when they play songs like Interseller Overdrive, the intro to Sad, in Porch solos and the breakdown in RearviewMirror.
Its hard to describe, but the only words i can think of are 'spacey and a warble effect'
Im going to say that its obvious that theres alot of delay used, but i want to know what else mike would use, or what you can use?
Its just a cool little effect.
Help a brother out?

Take a look at Mike's pedal board:
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/goodtruant/CCFA06/Dsc01847.jpg
The effect Mike uses is from his MM4 like a UniVibe.
Mike uses both Line6 DL4 and MM4 pedals, and he uses an H&K Rotosphere.
Cheers . . .

- Ian C.T. vom Saal

xtremehardy388

GivenToCarve wrote:

Like MFC Style? Can u give me an example?

All I can really give as an example of the Roto thing is the beginning to Corduroy live. The sound kinda has a quick 'wave' sound. If you have AIM, I can send you a sound clip EASILY. my screen name is the same as the name on here (xtremehardy388)

Pearl Jam and toast

xtremehardy388 wrote:

All I can really give as an example of the Roto thing is the beginning to Corduroy live. The sound kinda has a quick 'wave' sound. If you have AIM, I can send you a sound clip EASILY. my screen name is the same as the name on here (xtremehardy388)

Actually I think the MFC intro (album version) is a perfect example of what he's talking about.

lucylespian

A really good spot to hear this is in toward teh end of teh Black solo on Benroya Hall acoustic set. It's really got that HAmmond organ warble. I have my Rotosphere on lay-by, have to pay it off, cos they are so freakin' expensive.

xtremehardy388

Live versions of Ledbetter along with Army Reserve(some versions). Nothing As It Seems too.

xtremehardy388

Bump

MichaelMcKevin

I think i might pick up a Rotovibe. I have no pedals

keeponrockin

GivenToCarve wrote:

I think i might pick up a Rotovibe. I have no pedals

It's awesome.

Novawind

GivenToCarve wrote:

I think i might pick up a Rotovibe. I have no pedals

Wait, really?

Maybe I'm just a pedal fiend, I don't like playing without them (TS9, DS1 and wah being key). I'd start with a wah if I were you, assuming your amp has a decent drive channel.

Pearl Jam and toast

Novawind wrote:

Wait, really?

Maybe I'm just a pedal fiend, I don't like playing without them (TS9, DS1 and wah being key). I'd start with a wah if I were you, assuming your amp has a decent drive channel.

i agree. start basic and work up to more complex devices.

MichaelMcKevin

Novawind wrote:

Wait, really?

Maybe I'm just a pedal fiend, I don't like playing without them (TS9, DS1 and wah being key). I'd start with a wah if I were you, assuming your amp has a decent drive channel.

I'm definitely content with my amp's drive, though i hardly get to turn it up loud enough to really get into it. Might invest in an OCD but it's not really a priority right now. I agree that a wah is a good choice for a first pedal, but I'm trying to build a "signature tone" i guess you could say. I really like the sound of Josh Clark from Tea Leaf Green... especially in the song Garden Pt II.
Here's a vid if anyone's interested. It comes in at about 2:00 and eh starts playing the signature riff for that song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK4Hks7FHJw It sounds like he uses sometime of rotating speaker effect or maybe a phaseshifter. This might sound a little too smoker... but it sounds like he's playing under water almost. I'm not very good at recognizing pedals.

Also, I've seen this guys pedal board in person after I met him at one of their shows, and it's the biggest I've ever seen. I'm talking Mike, Stone and Ed put together and then some. See if you can figure out what is giving him that real signature sound. All I know of his gear is that he plays an Custom Shop ES-446 and a Buddah amp. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zdFEn_hrcw&mode=related&search=

samquigley

If you're looking for a Leslie-type effect and you're not willing to splurge on a Rotosphere, don't bother. Get yourself a Phase 90, you'll love it. I've got an old Script version but those new EVH models are supposed to be pretty good. I've also got a Dunlop Univibe which I keep only because it looks cool and I know if I sell it, I won't get half of what I paid for it. Also, it nails the sound of the intro to Blur's "Tender". Nothing else, just that intro.

xtremehardy388

Or a Rotovibe , By the way, when did Mike stop using it?

Lukin_oz

Ive been trying for the longest time to nail the black outro type solo Mike does in Vegas in 2000. Is it just delay with some interesting playing technique or something else?

xtremehardy388

I think it's also Volume swells if it's the same solo you're talking about. There's also the univibe in there(REALLY fast chorus)

DiRtyFranK38

i found mikes rotosphere..

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Hughes-Kettner-Tube-Tools-Tube-Rotosphere-MKII?sku=151910

thats his exact one.