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  • broken_joystick
    broken_joystick Posts: 137
    I found it, I actually really like the cover. I think Eddie did a very good job.
  • Mrs.Vedder78
    Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    hourglassnebula wrote:
    The title to this post is extremely misleading. There is nothing to back it up. You have posted an article from 1994 that has a few quotes from Trent about Pearl Jam. How does this equate to him being unhappy about EV covering a song of his in 2008?


    You read my mind.
    I expected to find a recent article that confirms such an allegation though i found myself reading a 14 year old quote :rolleyes:
    "Without the album covers, where do you clean your pot?" - EV
  • vedderfan10
    vedderfan10 Posts: 2,497
    gozzo5058 wrote:
    i'm not sure if i buy that trent hate pj thing based on trent played the bridge school in 2006 with pj on the bill, they must tolerate each other ...or maybe not...whatever

    Well, I've got a photo of Stone and Jeff watching Trent Reznor at Bridge 2006 - they were at the side of the stage....which is where Jeff and Dave Matthews stood to watch DCFC... so I would imagine there's a mutual respect...
    be philanthropic
  • wolfbear
    wolfbear Posts: 3,965
    cutback wrote:
    full aware of the cover....i've heard it..it's great....now someone point me to where reznor is pissed about it
    Exactly. I can't imagine he is. :)
    "I'd rather be with an animal." "Those that can be trusted can change their mind." "The in between is mine." "If I don't lose control, explore and not explode, a preternatural other plane with the power to maintain." "Yeh this is living." "Life is what you make it."
  • washedinblack91
    washedinblack91 Posts: 3,079
    this argument is irrelevant not only because it was 14 years ago when he said it, but was probably making a generalization about pearl jam because grunge was the hot thing back in 94 and pearl jam happened to be one of the popular bands. if kurt wasn't on a path to destruction or possibly already dead by the time this interview came out, then he probably would have replaced pearl jam with nirvana.
    PJ: 9/29/04, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/18/13, 8/7/16
    eV: 8/4/08, 8/5/08, 6/21/11
    SG: 10/4/08<-- MET STONE!!!
  • DrHeidi41
    DrHeidi41 Posts: 106
    I don't know what he would have to pissed about in the first place (though I REALLY doubt he is). First of all, I think, at the very least, he would be flattered that two extremely talented, highly respected and even legendary musicians (Vedder and Cash) found his song worth covering. Second of all, he is always going to be credited as the original writer in the first place! It's not as if Ed covered the song and suddenly it's "his."
  • walkthamile
    walkthamile Posts: 349
    ucsb wrote:
    I have a feeling Trent Reznor is not happy about the Hurt cover by eddie vedder. He is not a big Pearl Jam fan. At least he wasn't back in 1994:

    snippet from an interview:

    L: Selling lots of records isn't such a bad thing...

    T: The problem is, if I would have made a record and set down and thought O.K. A lot of people liked `Head Like A Hole' yeah, maybe I'll write a song that sounds just like it. Okay, grunge is in maybe I'll grow a goatee. Yeah, that might be cool. But I need a big techno edge, `cause that's really popular right now so I'll have Moby remix it. and then I sold a shitload of records, I'd feel on thin ice. I'd never do that in the first place, but if I did, I'd feel uneasy because I basically sold out.

    L: But don't you have a responsibility to yourself as a musician, let alone to your fans?

    T: Absolutely I do. I'm saying if I did that I'd feel shitty about selling a lot of records. But I've made the records I've wanted to make. And if a lot of people want to buy them, then who am I to say they're not cool enough to buy my records. You're a nerd. You're from Pennsylvania, you can't buy this. I grew up there! I was one of those guys who wasn't cool enough. It's music. If you don't like it, the Pearl Jam record is right there on the shelf. Buy it! It's for people like you.

    L: What do you listen to?

    T: Pearl Jam.

    L: Alright.

    T: I fucking hate Pearl Jam.

    L: O.K.


    link:
    http://www.theninhotline.net/archives/articles/axc94a.shtml

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  • LikeAnOcean
    LikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    ucsb wrote:
    I have a feeling Trent Reznor is not happy about the Hurt cover by eddie vedder. He is not a big Pearl Jam fan. At least he wasn't back in 1994:

    snippet from an interview:

    L: Selling lots of records isn't such a bad thing...

    T: The problem is, if I would have made a record and set down and thought O.K. A lot of people liked `Head Like A Hole' yeah, maybe I'll write a song that sounds just like it. Okay, grunge is in maybe I'll grow a goatee. Yeah, that might be cool. But I need a big techno edge, `cause that's really popular right now so I'll have Moby remix it. and then I sold a shitload of records, I'd feel on thin ice. I'd never do that in the first place, but if I did, I'd feel uneasy because I basically sold out.

    L: But don't you have a responsibility to yourself as a musician, let alone to your fans?

    T: Absolutely I do. I'm saying if I did that I'd feel shitty about selling a lot of records. But I've made the records I've wanted to make. And if a lot of people want to buy them, then who am I to say they're not cool enough to buy my records. You're a nerd. You're from Pennsylvania, you can't buy this. I grew up there! I was one of those guys who wasn't cool enough. It's music. If you don't like it, the Pearl Jam record is right there on the shelf. Buy it! It's for people like you.

    L: What do you listen to?

    T: Pearl Jam.

    L: Alright.

    T: I fucking hate Pearl Jam.

    L: O.K.


    link:
    http://www.theninhotline.net/archives/articles/axc94a.shtml
    15 years ago dude.. Do you remember Pearl Jam 15 years ago? They were popular like Britney Spears back then..

    I'm sure Trent is honored Eddie covered Hurt.. or he doesn't give a rats ass.
  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    walkthamile wrote:
    Jealousy...that's all it is! NIN, in all seriousness, well can you really take them seriously...
    um....I'm sure there are a lot of people that consider NIN to be one of music's all time greats.

    I also remember Trent mocking Ed around that time (think it was in Rolling Stone)... something about his lyrics not being that personal, saying he was not the epitome of honesty he portrays himself as....
    I'm a fan of pretty much everything done by both PJ and NIN, I couldn't care less what they think of each other. Even if they do/did hate each other, who are we to guess why?
    I would be interested to hear Trent's reaction tho, this thread was disappointing.
  • walkthamile
    walkthamile Posts: 349
    Drowned Out wrote:
    um....I'm sure there are a lot of people that consider NIN to be one of music's all time greats.

    hmmm...probably stretching it a little..."all time greats"??
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  • Drowned Out
    Drowned Out Posts: 6,056
    walkthamile wrote:
    hmmm...probably stretching it a little..."all time greats"??
    well, we could play a game....
    Give me your criteria for an 'all time great', and I'll tell you why NIN fits it...
    or
    I could just say that your 'can't be taken seriously' comment needed balance :D
  • walkthamile
    walkthamile Posts: 349
    Drowned Out wrote:
    'all time great'
    This phrase gets thrown around far too often...NIN don't fit it any more than any other 90's alternative outfit...but if you think so...according to your criteria, that's all that matters!
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  • prytocorduroy
    prytocorduroy Posts: 4,355
    ucsb wrote:
    T: Absolutely I do. I'm saying if I did that I'd feel shitty about selling a lot of records. But I've made the records I've wanted to make. And if a lot of people want to buy them, then who am I to say they're not cool enough to buy my records. You're a nerd. You're from Pennsylvania, you can't buy this. I grew up there! I was one of those guys who wasn't cool enough. It's music. If you don't like it, the Pearl Jam record is right there on the shelf. Buy it! It's for people like you.
    Can't I have both? :(
  • Mohab
    Mohab Posts: 310
    I really cant stand nin, sorry to hear ed covered it but i dont have a lot of faith in his choice. cashes cover was so god awful (equally bad as the orig.) that i lost interest in his later stuff, almost made me miss rusty cage which was awesome. worst video ever too (by jc).

    trent strikes me as a vastly over rated character.

    the only joy he brought to me was (def not his production of maryln mansons hideous albums) an interview with him and roger waters where mr. waters flat out told him he had never even heard any music from nin, then trent offered to send him copies of his albums, which waters was not into at all. call it dark satisfaction for me

    ok, terrible lie is an awesome song i admit it, but head like a hole was bad, as were downword spirals and everything after
  • Mohab
    Mohab Posts: 310
    p.s. the ganster the killer and the dope dealer was amazing i should also concede
  • EP1973
    EP1973 Posts: 112
    Does it really matter if Trent Reznor likes PJ or if the members of PJ like NIN?...no...I like both bands...gotta quit being "sheep" folks...think for yourself
  • JimBerkell
    JimBerkell Posts: 579
    Ed did say the stuff before the song.... then he said "thanks trent" at the end... so i'm guessing the song has his blessing.
    "You could have licked the lips of God, but you chose the pavement..." ~ These Arms Are Snakes
  • gibbits
    gibbits Posts: 522
    All this says to me is that Trent was tired of grunge in 94. He isn't the first to have that opinion. 94 was also before No Code et al so all he had to go on was 2, MAYBE 3 albums. And lets face it, those albums weren't as different from one another as the later ones have been. Does that make them bad? No, but I think he is just using Pearl Jam because they were on top at the time. He'd probably intersplice that with Fallout Boy today.

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