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ucsbucsb Posts: 58
edited September 2008 in The Porch
I have a feeling Trent Reznor is not happy about the Hurt cover by eddie vedder. He is not a big Pearl Jam fan. At least he wasn't back in 1994:

snippet from an interview:

L: Selling lots of records isn't such a bad thing...

T: The problem is, if I would have made a record and set down and thought O.K. A lot of people liked `Head Like A Hole' yeah, maybe I'll write a song that sounds just like it. Okay, grunge is in maybe I'll grow a goatee. Yeah, that might be cool. But I need a big techno edge, `cause that's really popular right now so I'll have Moby remix it. and then I sold a shitload of records, I'd feel on thin ice. I'd never do that in the first place, but if I did, I'd feel uneasy because I basically sold out.

L: But don't you have a responsibility to yourself as a musician, let alone to your fans?

T: Absolutely I do. I'm saying if I did that I'd feel shitty about selling a lot of records. But I've made the records I've wanted to make. And if a lot of people want to buy them, then who am I to say they're not cool enough to buy my records. You're a nerd. You're from Pennsylvania, you can't buy this. I grew up there! I was one of those guys who wasn't cool enough. It's music. If you don't like it, the Pearl Jam record is right there on the shelf. Buy it! It's for people like you.

L: What do you listen to?

T: Pearl Jam.

L: Alright.

T: I fucking hate Pearl Jam.

L: O.K.


link:
http://www.theninhotline.net/archives/articles/axc94a.shtml
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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    good thing people don't change or mature over time...

    that way we can judge them for something they said 15 years ago ;)
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  • broken_joystickbroken_joystick Posts: 137
    Am I out of the loop? Where did the hurt cover come from? I youtube'd it and there was a video added 22 hours ago, but when I clicked it it said "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Pearl Jam Ten Club"
  • BetterThanYouBetterThanYou Posts: 853
    lol, that's hilarious. i'd love to hear the audio to that.
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  • vedderfan10vedderfan10 Posts: 2,497
    Yeah...Trent's had a whole whack of therapy and some rehab since 1994...He's probably not anywhere near as angry as he used to be... Ed was an angry "I hate everything" kinda guy in 1994 as well...

    Interesting snippet of interview...not really unexpected...Trent was probably mad because he thought he had the angry at the parents tortured soul mad at the world image all to himself, but he realized he did not...

    I guess they both grew up as they left their 20's and 30's behind...fancy that....
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    KDH12 wrote:
    good thing people don't change or mature over time...

    that way we can judge them for something they said 15 years ago ;)

    ok so it isn't just me that can't find any reference to ed covering hurt....man it's gonna be a long few months until the new album and tour if this is the quality of threads we'll have to deal with :rolleyes:
  • Spot In The SkySpot In The Sky Posts: 1,175
    that might not be about hurt, a lot of people hate PJ before and after that cover.
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    ucsb wrote:
    I have a feeling Trent Reznor is not happy about the Hurt cover by eddie vedder. He is not a big Pearl Jam fan. At least he wasn't back in 1994:

    snippet from an interview:

    L: Selling lots of records isn't such a bad thing...

    T: The problem is, if I would have made a record and set down and thought O.K. A lot of people liked `Head Like A Hole' yeah, maybe I'll write a song that sounds just like it. Okay, grunge is in maybe I'll grow a goatee. Yeah, that might be cool. But I need a big techno edge, `cause that's really popular right now so I'll have Moby remix it. and then I sold a shitload of records, I'd feel on thin ice. I'd never do that in the first place, but if I did, I'd feel uneasy because I basically sold out.

    L: But don't you have a responsibility to yourself as a musician, let alone to your fans?

    T: Absolutely I do. I'm saying if I did that I'd feel shitty about selling a lot of records. But I've made the records I've wanted to make. And if a lot of people want to buy them, then who am I to say they're not cool enough to buy my records. You're a nerd. You're from Pennsylvania, you can't buy this. I grew up there! I was one of those guys who wasn't cool enough. It's music. If you don't like it, the Pearl Jam record is right there on the shelf. Buy it! It's for people like you.

    L: What do you listen to?

    T: Pearl Jam.

    L: Alright.

    T: I fucking hate Pearl Jam.

    L: O.K.


    link:
    http://www.theninhotline.net/archives/articles/axc94a.shtml

    man id be honored if eddie covered one of my songs!
    i gotta youtube that cover, im sure its on there somewhere, suchha good song, i love the johnny cash cover.
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  • ucsbucsb Posts: 58
    Vedderfan10 wrote:
    Yeah...Trent's had a whole whack of therapy and some rehab since 1994...He's probably not anywhere near as angry as he used to be... Ed was an angry "I hate everything" kinda guy in 1994 as well...

    Interesting snippet of interview...not really unexpected...Trent was probably mad because he thought he had the angry at the parents tortured soul mad at the world image all to himself, but he realized he did not...

    I guess they both grew up as they left their 20's and 30's behind...fancy that....


    totally agree. But I remember reading a recent article somewhere where he bad mouthed the band again! He said something to the effect that he always respected nirvana but thought pearl jam was joke/not original....trying to find that article.

    Still haven't heard Ed's version of hurt...
  • mookeywrenchmookeywrench Posts: 5,940
    14 years ago I hated Neil Young and the Beatles, but Danny, Stephanie, DJ, Michelle Tanner were all really cool.
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  • Spot In The SkySpot In The Sky Posts: 1,175
    mookeywrench wrote:
    but Danny, Stephanie, DJ, Michelle Tanner were all really cool.

    are they not now?
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  • hourglassnebulahourglassnebula Posts: 25
    The title to this post is extremely misleading. There is nothing to back it up. You have posted an article from 1994 that has a few quotes from Trent about Pearl Jam. How does this equate to him being unhappy about EV covering a song of his in 2008?
  • joint in a treejoint in a tree Posts: 392
    cutback wrote:
    ok so it isn't just me that can't find any reference to ed covering hurt....man it's gonna be a long few months until the new album and tour if this is the quality of threads we'll have to deal with :rolleyes:

    EdVed's solo show in Chicago. Good luck finding it. It keeps getting posted, then pulled...posted, then pulled.
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  • lowlight10lowlight10 Posts: 619
    hourglassnebula wrote:
    The title to this post is extremely misleading.

    this is the kind of garbage that flies around here these days. apparently the financial crisis is leaving people with a lot of free time.
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  • gozzo5058gozzo5058 Posts: 611
    i'm not sure if i buy that trent hate pj thing based on trent played the bridge school in 2006 with pj on the bill, they must tolerate each other ...or maybe not...whatever
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  • vedder_soupvedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    way to go!
    dig up something that is 14 years old!!!

    i think both bands would have grown up a lot musically and mentally.

    Ed and Trent are both musical talents and i am sure have a great respect for each other. By covering Hurt, and saying what he says before he sings the song, i think he shows that!
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    joint in a tree wrote:
    EdVed's solo show in Chicago. Good luck finding it. It keeps getting posted, then pulled...posted, then pulled.

    full aware of the cover....i've heard it..it's great....now someone point me to where reznor is pissed about it
  • LaddieLaddie Posts: 311
    T: Absolutely I do. I'm saying if I did that I'd feel shitty about selling a lot of records. But I've made the records I've wanted to make. And if a lot of people want to buy them, then who am I to say they're not cool enough to buy my records. You're a nerd. You're from Pennsylvania, you can't buy this. I grew up there! I was one of those guys who wasn't cool enough. It's music. If you don't like it, the Pearl Jam record is right there on the shelf. Buy it! It's for people like you.

    L: What do you listen to?

    T: Pearl Jam.


    that part made me lol.
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    That is a misleading and not honest thread title. It must suck to be big, when people are putting words in your mouth that you didn't say. The man hasn't said a word publicly about the Hurt cover. They are down in South America at this moment. I like Pearl Jam and I like NIN, and sure a bunch of them were angry young men in 1994, the year my now 14 1/2 year old daughter was BORN. Why stir up unnecessary trouble? I'd bet it is more likely than not, that members of Pearl Jam, and members of NIN had some good interaction at Bridge School 06, as they were all there for charity.
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  • dreamweaverdreamweaver New York Posts: 721
    mookeywrench wrote:
    14 years ago I hated Neil Young and the Beatles, but Danny, Stephanie, DJ, Michelle Tanner were all really cool.


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  • vedder_soupvedder_soup Posts: 5,861
    cutback wrote:
    full aware of the cover....i've heard it..it's great....now someone point me to where reznor is pissed about it

    i don't think he would be pissed about it
    ed did a great job.

    someone just decided to dig up a 14 year old interview where trent says he hates PJ!!
    2003 - Sydney x3,
    2006 - Reading Festival,
    2007 - Katowice, London, Nijmegen, Rock Werchter,
    2008 - MSG x2, Hartford, Mansfield x2, Beacon Theater,
    2009 - Melbourne, Sydney,
    2010 - I watched it go to fire!
    2011 - EV Brisbane x3, Newcastle, Sydney x3,
    2012 - Manchester x 2, Amsterdam x2, Prague, Berlin x2, Stockholm, Oslo, Copenhagen,
    2014 - Sydney, EV Sydney x3

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  • broken_joystickbroken_joystick Posts: 137
    I found it, I actually really like the cover. I think Eddie did a very good job.
  • Mrs.Vedder78Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    hourglassnebula wrote:
    The title to this post is extremely misleading. There is nothing to back it up. You have posted an article from 1994 that has a few quotes from Trent about Pearl Jam. How does this equate to him being unhappy about EV covering a song of his in 2008?


    You read my mind.
    I expected to find a recent article that confirms such an allegation though i found myself reading a 14 year old quote :rolleyes:
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  • vedderfan10vedderfan10 Posts: 2,497
    gozzo5058 wrote:
    i'm not sure if i buy that trent hate pj thing based on trent played the bridge school in 2006 with pj on the bill, they must tolerate each other ...or maybe not...whatever

    Well, I've got a photo of Stone and Jeff watching Trent Reznor at Bridge 2006 - they were at the side of the stage....which is where Jeff and Dave Matthews stood to watch DCFC... so I would imagine there's a mutual respect...
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  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    cutback wrote:
    full aware of the cover....i've heard it..it's great....now someone point me to where reznor is pissed about it
    Exactly. I can't imagine he is. :)
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  • washedinblack91washedinblack91 Posts: 3,078
    this argument is irrelevant not only because it was 14 years ago when he said it, but was probably making a generalization about pearl jam because grunge was the hot thing back in 94 and pearl jam happened to be one of the popular bands. if kurt wasn't on a path to destruction or possibly already dead by the time this interview came out, then he probably would have replaced pearl jam with nirvana.
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  • DrHeidi41DrHeidi41 Posts: 106
    I don't know what he would have to pissed about in the first place (though I REALLY doubt he is). First of all, I think, at the very least, he would be flattered that two extremely talented, highly respected and even legendary musicians (Vedder and Cash) found his song worth covering. Second of all, he is always going to be credited as the original writer in the first place! It's not as if Ed covered the song and suddenly it's "his."
  • walkthamilewalkthamile Posts: 349
    ucsb wrote:
    I have a feeling Trent Reznor is not happy about the Hurt cover by eddie vedder. He is not a big Pearl Jam fan. At least he wasn't back in 1994:

    snippet from an interview:

    L: Selling lots of records isn't such a bad thing...

    T: The problem is, if I would have made a record and set down and thought O.K. A lot of people liked `Head Like A Hole' yeah, maybe I'll write a song that sounds just like it. Okay, grunge is in maybe I'll grow a goatee. Yeah, that might be cool. But I need a big techno edge, `cause that's really popular right now so I'll have Moby remix it. and then I sold a shitload of records, I'd feel on thin ice. I'd never do that in the first place, but if I did, I'd feel uneasy because I basically sold out.

    L: But don't you have a responsibility to yourself as a musician, let alone to your fans?

    T: Absolutely I do. I'm saying if I did that I'd feel shitty about selling a lot of records. But I've made the records I've wanted to make. And if a lot of people want to buy them, then who am I to say they're not cool enough to buy my records. You're a nerd. You're from Pennsylvania, you can't buy this. I grew up there! I was one of those guys who wasn't cool enough. It's music. If you don't like it, the Pearl Jam record is right there on the shelf. Buy it! It's for people like you.

    L: What do you listen to?

    T: Pearl Jam.

    L: Alright.

    T: I fucking hate Pearl Jam.

    L: O.K.


    link:
    http://www.theninhotline.net/archives/articles/axc94a.shtml

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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    ucsb wrote:
    I have a feeling Trent Reznor is not happy about the Hurt cover by eddie vedder. He is not a big Pearl Jam fan. At least he wasn't back in 1994:

    snippet from an interview:

    L: Selling lots of records isn't such a bad thing...

    T: The problem is, if I would have made a record and set down and thought O.K. A lot of people liked `Head Like A Hole' yeah, maybe I'll write a song that sounds just like it. Okay, grunge is in maybe I'll grow a goatee. Yeah, that might be cool. But I need a big techno edge, `cause that's really popular right now so I'll have Moby remix it. and then I sold a shitload of records, I'd feel on thin ice. I'd never do that in the first place, but if I did, I'd feel uneasy because I basically sold out.

    L: But don't you have a responsibility to yourself as a musician, let alone to your fans?

    T: Absolutely I do. I'm saying if I did that I'd feel shitty about selling a lot of records. But I've made the records I've wanted to make. And if a lot of people want to buy them, then who am I to say they're not cool enough to buy my records. You're a nerd. You're from Pennsylvania, you can't buy this. I grew up there! I was one of those guys who wasn't cool enough. It's music. If you don't like it, the Pearl Jam record is right there on the shelf. Buy it! It's for people like you.

    L: What do you listen to?

    T: Pearl Jam.

    L: Alright.

    T: I fucking hate Pearl Jam.

    L: O.K.


    link:
    http://www.theninhotline.net/archives/articles/axc94a.shtml
    15 years ago dude.. Do you remember Pearl Jam 15 years ago? They were popular like Britney Spears back then..

    I'm sure Trent is honored Eddie covered Hurt.. or he doesn't give a rats ass.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    walkthamile wrote:
    Jealousy...that's all it is! NIN, in all seriousness, well can you really take them seriously...
    um....I'm sure there are a lot of people that consider NIN to be one of music's all time greats.

    I also remember Trent mocking Ed around that time (think it was in Rolling Stone)... something about his lyrics not being that personal, saying he was not the epitome of honesty he portrays himself as....
    I'm a fan of pretty much everything done by both PJ and NIN, I couldn't care less what they think of each other. Even if they do/did hate each other, who are we to guess why?
    I would be interested to hear Trent's reaction tho, this thread was disappointing.
  • walkthamilewalkthamile Posts: 349
    Drowned Out wrote:
    um....I'm sure there are a lot of people that consider NIN to be one of music's all time greats.

    hmmm...probably stretching it a little..."all time greats"??
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