Drummers

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surferdude wrote:

Emotional understanding of what the songs needs. And in both cases songwriters and producers who understand the abilities the drummers bring to the table.

Mullen, IMO, is the best bass tom drummer in rock. I've yet to notice another drummer use it like he does. This is very effectively showcased in some songs, see One. Without the ability to overlook flaws and find the value in what he does uniquely he'd just be another drummer who has no idea when to come into a song.

Moon brought his personality to every song. I listen to Quadraphenia and am just amazed that he was ever allowed to drum like that. Musically it makes no sense. Some songs he keeps no beat but still manages to drive the song. Innate ability that can't be taught. I'm just glad the other members of The Who recognized the genius of it.

Wow... thanks for this.
I am learning a lot from you guys.
I can't understand my current fixation with drumming, but I am definitely enjoying this

surferdude

chopitdown wrote:

Mullen is a very good drummer for U2. He'll never win an award for drumming but he can make songs come alive with his simplistic approach and style. Some drummers can just make songs come alive by playing their style. But i really think it's the edges fault for all the timing issues (always gotta blame the guitarists )

You have a point because Edge gives almost no physical cues as to when to come in, too caught up in his effect and loop pedals. Whereas, Townsend was pretty much an onstage conductor.

surferdude

chopitdown wrote:

That's right there are drummers / bands who can get away with a sloppy drummer. There are very very few drummers who can play loose like that and make it sound good. Nothing irks me more (as a drummer) when they try to get flashy and end up killing the song. So while there are a very small amount of exceptions that can pull off the "sloppy" feel.... I'll stand by my earlier statement.

My big complaint with Matt Camerson is technically he is too good. I think he needs to loosen up a little and let some of his personality shine through. That at he has no funk in his feet.

chopitdown

surferdude wrote:

My big complaint with Matt Camerson is technically he is too good. I think he needs to loosen up a little and let some of his personality shine through. That at he has no funk in his feet.

good point. I do miss Dave's bass drum work. Matt does some cool beats and accents with the bass drum but doesn't capture the funk as dave did. Animal is still the song I think needs to be more played in Daves style...it just seems a little boring the way it's played now.