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DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
edited April 2006 in Musicians and Gearheads
Ok. JofZ is a thread whore, so i had to start a new thread to get an answer.
;)

thus, if you have any questions about BJF Pedals, in general, ask them here, if you want.

Mine is regarding the differences\similarities between the EGDM and the BBOD ... i am also half curious about the Honey Bee ... (haha, i'm funny)
For reference on my amps starting point, i have one early Egnater amp with 2 channels an early fender channel and an early marshall plexi channel ...

i will soon have that damn FabFox which for all intents and purposes is essentially a little Superlead 100 head ... read: high gain!

and i have a TS9 already. Looking for warm round, harmonicaly rich, lovey dove cream scream tones ...

???
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    http://www.tonesafari.com/bjferef/


    this is a good place to start. DonneR's site.
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Ok. JofZ is a thread whore, so i had to start a new thread to get an answer.
    ;)

    thus, if you have any questions about BJF Pedals, in general, ask them here, if you want.

    Mine is regarding the differences\similarities between the EGDM and the BBOD ... i am also half curious about the Honey Bee ... (haha, i'm funny)
    For reference on my amps starting point, i have one early Egnater amp with 2 channels an early fender channel and an early marshall plexi channel ...

    i will soon have that damn FabFox which for all intents and purposes is essentially a little Superlead 100 head ... read: high gain!

    and i have a TS9 already. Looking for warm round, harmonicaly rich, lovey dove cream scream tones ...

    ???

    Me a thread whore? :)

    BJ's pedals are unique in that the name and color can be associated with the general tone of the pedal.
    The Blue OD is based on Fender amps
    The Green's are based on British amps
    The Red's are based on British (marshall amps)
    These are not written in stone, but are true to some degree.

    The Honey Bee is based on the old Supro amp. Thus it gives you a small amp OD tone, many use it to stack with other OD's and it just smooths everything out. It is a sweatener as well!

    The BBOD is versitle and is being discontinued, if you play blues/rock and have a fender style amp then you'll dig it.

    If you want to turn your "fill in the blank" amp into something else tonewise then you can add the flavor of your choice.

    The EGDM is based on the Vox style amp. It is the wall of nails tone and it is a very useful box.

    I'll post more later, gotta run to a conference call.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Well i ordered them both at the same time.

    Was told that the BBOD was practicaly gone,
    was then told that Bjorn could get one more for me ...

    was then told by Teddy that i just needed to wait for them to come in stock.

    Two weeks ago my SYT came ... what a shock! ... and it is AWESOME!

    Unfortunately, still no word on the BBOD ! :(

    how much longer should i hold out hope?

    Who should i call? #?

    Doh.
    :(

    twas to be my be-all-end-all distortion, stacked with my AM moded TS9ri.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Well i ordered them both at the same time.

    Was told that the BBOD was practicaly gone,
    was then told that Bjorn could get one more for me ...

    was then told by Teddy that i just needed to wait for them to come in stock.

    Two weeks ago my SYT came ... what a shock! ... and it is AWESOME!

    Unfortunately, still no word on the BBOD ! :(

    how much longer should i hold out hope?

    Who should i call? #?

    Doh.
    :(

    twas to be my be-all-end-all distortion, stacked with my AM moded TS9ri.


    BBOD's are no longer made. They were discontinued some time ago. Sorry.
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    BBOD's are no longer made. They were discontinued some time ago. Sorry.

    Send me a PM and I can get you one!
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    JofZ wrote:
    Send me a PM and I can get you one!


    unless you have a JofZ ha ha. :D

    I need a new Gulfstream G4 for $200 any luck?
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    JofZ wrote:
    Send me a PM and I can get you one!


    pm sent, homeshizzle.

    i know we've been down this road before,
    so if you want to see some of the Emails i have had going back and forth with Dean or Teddy,let me know.
    :D

    i don't want to piss anyone off,
    i'm just not sure anyone of us are speaking hte same language.
    When three people all tell you they can get it done,
    and then you are still sitting with nothing, you just wonder if someone got their wires crossed.

    THANKS!
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    pm sent, homeshizzle.

    i know we've been down this road before,
    so if you want to see some of the Emails i have had going back and forth with Dean or Teddy,let me know.
    :D

    i don't want to piss anyone off,
    i'm just not sure anyone of us are speaking hte same language.
    When three people all tell you they can get it done,
    and then you are still sitting with nothing, you just wonder if someone got their wires crossed.

    THANKS!
    Teddy runs a very busy store. I dont think he intends to mislead people. But, he usually doesnt update his inventory. If a pedal is hot it causes him problems. Then he asks the builders to pump them out which they cant ever do, so it is a circle of death LOL.

    I am going to respond to your PM.
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  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,205
    do you guys find that the BJF overdrive/distortion pedals run well over a clean amp?

    for example i have maybe 1 or 2 settings on both my Fulltone OCD and Boss BD-2 that i think are pretty decent when they are run through the clean channel....but its amazing when they are run over my overdriven amp
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    HailHailVitalogy wrote:
    do you guys find that the BJF overdrive/distortion pedals run well over a clean amp?

    for example i have maybe 1 or 2 settings on both my Fulltone OCD and Boss BD-2 that i think are pretty decent when they are run through the clean channel....but its amazing when they are run over my overdriven amp

    the bbod is supposed to be for people playing out of fenders, so i'd say that's probably a yes ... and also a "depends on WHICH pedal" ...

    also ... if you're using a solid state amp ... that could be the issue.

    most "real" pedals suck ass on SS amps. :(

    but JoZ will give you the definitive answer, shortly.
    or maybe Paco...

    i heard that 68strat got banned (said so over on RM) that sucks, wtf?
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  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,205
    yeah i know my old SS marshall amp was horrible thankgod i got a real amp :)

    well im really interested in the Baby Blue and Pink Purple Fuzz
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  • Thumbing My WayThumbing My Way Posts: 1,073
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    .

    most "real" pedals suck ass on SS amps. :(

    What do you mean by "real"?

    I'm really excited to hear my pedals on my tube amp when I finally get it :)

    And I think they sound good now.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Thumbing My Way wrote:
    What do you mean by "real"?

    I'm really excited to hear my pedals on my tube amp when I finally get it :)

    And I think they sound good now.

    i dunno ... usualy something that doesn't say "boss" or "digitech" on it ...

    just a thought.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    JofZ wrote:
    I am going to respond to your PM.

    letter never received?
    :(

    busy JofZ forgot about me?

    doh.

    BBOD, where can you be?
    :(
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    letter never received?
    :(

    busy JofZ forgot about me?

    doh.

    BBOD, where can you be?
    :(

    I didn't get a PM, but I already got the ball rolling for you :)

    To address the earlier question, a SS amp will never produce the intented tone from the said pedal you are plugged into if it was created for a tube amp. Most of the OD boxes that are created these days are just designed to clip the front end. There are some good pedals out there for SS amps, but to be honest, I don't know that I would drop the coin on pedals trying to make a SS amps sound like a tube amp. It would be money better spent, selling the SS amp and investing the pedal cash into a great foundation Tube amp.
    That being said, I run all my pedals into a clean amp simply because I can't crank my amp. To accomadate the pedals desire to be run into a cranked amp, I will stack pedals and use a boost pedal. There is no right, or wrong just go with what sounds best. Some pedals sound better through a cranked amp, these are your fuzz boxes and muffs. Others I prefer into a clean.
    The BJF colors can be looked at as booth a paint brush approach and a coding system. Blues are American, Reds and Greens and British. Mix them and you can figure out what you should end up with. It also helps to have some history of Bjorns ideas under your belt. Knowing the bbod and bpb for example were made to go together will help get some good tones out of them.
    Most important, just have fun as Bj would say. It is all about playing and if you followed rules you would never find anything new ;)
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Oh if more people knew about pedal stacking how happy sound people would be.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    Oh if more people knew about pedal stacking how happy sound people would be.

    how do they NOT know, that's the real question.

    i mean ... what are you gonna do when you get more than one of an od\dist pedal ...

    tell me there aren't people out there who A\B box that shit and just switch from one chain to the next ...

    mmm mmm, uh uh, no way ...

    let me step on that boost ... smash my TS and then (GODWILLING!) lay on up in to that BBOD ...

    :D

    all though, i must say one of the most uninspiring stacks i've come across is my TS9 into the russian Big muff ...
    there is SOME difference ... but ... ah, well ... what did i expect, it's a farging Big Muff for christs sake.

    i think i need to get me a better boost too ...

    anyone know if picking up FM\AM frequencies is a common problem with boosts as a whole ... or you think it's just mine?
    see "Tonemaster" at bottom of page:
    http://www.phoenixcustomelectronics.com/pix.html

    i loved if for use with my P90 SG ... but i can't STAND the nearly constant FM bleed ... it's a rare day in hell when i don't pick up SOME signal.

    :(

    is it back to Bjorn for me?

    lol.

    edit:
    oh, BTW JofZ ... THANK YOU.
    do i need to do any talking to Teddy or anything? (ie. cancel the order)
    or is it still coming throuh him.

    god how i love you people!
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    how do they NOT know, that's the real question.

    i mean ... what are you gonna do when you get more than one of an od\dist pedal ...

    tell me there aren't people out there who A\B box that shit and just switch from one chain to the next ...

    mmm mmm, uh uh, no way ...

    let me step on that boost ... smash my TS and then (GODWILLING!) lay on up in to that BBOD ...

    :D

    all though, i must say one of the most uninspiring stacks i've come across is my TS9 into the russian Big muff ...
    there is SOME difference ... but ... ah, well ... what did i expect, it's a farging Big Muff for christs sake.

    i think i need to get me a better boost too ...

    anyone know if picking up FM\AM frequencies is a common problem with boosts as a whole ... or you think it's just mine?
    see "Tonemaster" at bottom of page:
    http://www.phoenixcustomelectronics.com/pix.html

    i loved if for use with my P90 SG ... but i can't STAND the nearly constant FM bleed ... it's a rare day in hell when i don't pick up SOME signal.

    :(

    is it back to Bjorn for me?

    lol.

    edit:
    oh, BTW JofZ ... THANK YOU.
    do i need to do any talking to Teddy or anything? (ie. cancel the order)
    or is it still coming throuh him.

    god how i love you people!

    You can email Teddy and cancel it :)

    The one pedal that you will never get good tone out of unless it is going into a cranked amp is a Muff.
    The radio freq you are hearing is common :) It is based on the tranny the builder used.
    Pedal stacking is were all the fun is if you ask me :)
    A good boost is worth more to me then all the OD's out there. I love natural break up and most OD pedals are not in that realm :(
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    JofZ wrote:
    You can email Teddy and cancel it :)

    The one pedal that you will never get good tone out of unless it is going into a cranked amp is a Muff.
    The radio freq you are hearing is common :) It is based on the tranny the builder used.
    Pedal stacking is were all the fun is if you ask me :)
    A good boost is worth more to me then all the OD's out there. I love natural break up and most OD pedals are not in that realm :(


    Do you realize how much you've learned about all this stuff in oh say a year and a half?

    It's pretty amazing really.

    I agree with you absolutely on boosts.
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    Do you realize how much you've learned about all this stuff in oh say a year and a half?

    It's pretty amazing really.

    I agree with you absolutely on boosts.

    It is a never ending quest for tone :)
    I owe all my knowledge to a bunch of guys, you included.

    Thanks man!!!
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    JofZ wrote:
    It is a never ending quest for tone :)
    I owe all my knowledge to a bunch of guys, you included.

    Thanks man!!!
    and i've been mooching off you both the whole way!
    ;)

    hey J,
    I think it's time for you to make us all cream our pants again with another panoramic pedalboard picture.

    man, you tonaly arrogant motherfucker!
    :D
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    and i've been mooching off you both the whole way!
    ;)

    hey J,
    I think it's time for you to make us all cream our pants again with another panoramic pedalboard picture.

    man, you tonaly arrogant motherfucker!
    :D

    I need to take some new pics. I will do it asap. The updated board it a little silly LOL
    I have feelers out there for you on the BBOD. It is going to take me a couple days :)
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    JofZ wrote:
    I need to take some new pics. I will do it asap. The updated board it a little silly LOL
    I have feelers out there for you on the BBOD. It is going to take me a couple days :)
    awesome awesome awesome.
    xoxoxoxoxo!

    (but not in that gay way -- think stone. think stone. :) )
    lol.
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    awesome awesome awesome.
    xoxoxoxoxo!

    (but not in that gay way -- think stone. think stone. :) )
    lol.
    LOL, no problem!
    I should have one by the time ToneFest comes around. As soon as I have it located I will let you know.
    Call Teddy for shits and grins and ask him if he has a confirmed order for them. I know Bj made the last of them a couple days ago and they are all spoken for.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    JofZ wrote:
    LOL, no problem!
    I should have one by the time ToneFest comes around. As soon as I have it located I will let you know.
    Call Teddy for shits and grins and ask him if he has a confirmed order for them. I know Bj made the last of them a couple days ago and they are all spoken for.

    yeah.
    one was mine, via you, until we SNAFUd ...
    but sounds like you've got your hand in the BJF BLACK MARKET.

    you dawg you.
    :D

    any one heard anything new on the street about NEW low-watt amps?
    i'm talking like 1w and lower?

    still weighing options.
    :D
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    yeah.
    one was mine, via you, until we SNAFUd ...
    but sounds like you've got your hand in the BJF BLACK MARKET.

    you dawg you.
    :D

    any one heard anything new on the street about NEW low-watt amps?
    i'm talking like 1w and lower?

    still weighing options.
    :D


    Beg Bjorn incessantly to build you a powerscaling low watt mad prof :D
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    Beg Bjorn incessantly to build you a powerscaling low watt mad prof :D

    i don't have $14,000

    doesn't he sell those for MAD MONEY?

    :(
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    i don't have $14,000

    doesn't he sell those for MAD MONEY?

    :(

    If you guys want the coolest amp ever, check out Bumbox Lead 1. The tone is silly!
    http://www.sombrabella.com/bumbox/
    It is coming home with me from ToneFest, just great bedroom tone.

    I am also very found of the new Swart's, but I think the smallest one is 2 1/2 watts.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    JofZ wrote:
    If you guys want the coolest amp ever, check out Bumbox Lead 1. The tone is silly!
    http://www.sombrabella.com/bumbox/
    It is coming home with me from ToneFest, just great bedroom tone.

    I am also very found of the new Swart's, but I think the smallest one is 2 1/2 watts.


    Nice, cool effects too. I also like the Swarts. I finally am unloading stuff though. 400 bucks is perfect.

    Unfortunately I'm going to be flying to Philly and then overland to beautiful scenic Fleetwood PA the weekend of the tonefest. I can't get out of it. Believe it or not, yup, it involves a female.
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  • JofZJofZ Posts: 1,276
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    Nice, cool effects too. I also like the Swarts. I finally am unloading stuff though. 400 bucks is perfect.

    Unfortunately I'm going to be flying to Philly and then overland to beautiful scenic Fleetwood PA the weekend of the tonefest. I can't get out of it. Believe it or not, yup, it involves a female.

    We are going to do them every 6 months, so you'll get in on the next one. We have lots of cool stuff planned, even ToneFest Japan :)

    The Bumbox is the shit, get one now before you have to wait 2 years-trust me!
    I think the price is beyond great, the looks are amazing and the sound, well the clips are just the tip of the iceberg. We are giving one away at ToneFest!
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