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  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    savman wrote:
    Man i nearly bought a pitchblack last month. but i was reading the Harmony Central reviews and it talked about a click when you turn it on and off. I tested it out in the shop and sure enough there was an audiable click when you bypass it. Ended up buying the TU2 even though it was £20 more expensive.
    I haven't noticed any click with it on my board:s
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    pedals are weird that way. i have some that clicked in certain configurations and didn't in others. so many variables.
  • keeponrockin
    keeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    exhausted wrote:
    pedals are weird that way. i have some that clicked in certain configurations and didn't in others. so many variables.
    Well my config is:

    Dynacomp>Wah (I know, bad order, but it's the way it fit)>Pitchblack>TS-9>BD-2>CE-5>DD-6>Rotovibe
    Believe me, when I was growin up, I thought the worst thing you could turn out to be was normal, So I say freaks in the most complementary way. Here's a song by a fellow freak - E.V
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    the click is usually when they turn on. If you do it once, generally it goes away after the initial push.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/2008/MXR-76-Vintage-Dyna-Comp-Pedal.html

    OK, I'm pretty much sold on this already. This reissue has been a LONG time coming.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • savman
    savman Posts: 230
    keeponrockin wrote:
    I haven't noticed any click with it on my board:s

    Thats good. Last thing you ned is a click happening if your playing live. I only tested it from guitar to amp with no other effects. As exhausted mentioned the other pedals must somehow negate the click.

    Otherwise they are damn good pedals. The led display is quite bright and its a compact and cheaper unit that the TU2.
    peace, ben
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    exhausted wrote:
    I'm playing a lot with guitar rig 2 (3 won't work with my version of protools) and it's very cool for post processing. Too much latency for realtime unfortunately. I made some pretty cool effects during mixing and had success adding "air" to direct recorded acoustic with it.

    I tried a pod x3 and it sounded great but it has no onscreen (computer) edit program and it's overwhelming trying to use the screen on the unit. The biamping is amazing but trying to create tones within the unit itself is paralyzing. So I took it back and stuck with xt. I'll try again once they have a graphical editor.

    Despite all my amps I still prefer recording with a pod. I guess if I had better mics, soundproofing etc it would be different.

    The slicer reminds me of the andrenalinn. Same concept I suppose.

    ok, i'm an idiot. the X3 does have a PC editor. it's just not line6 edit. it's gearbox. they need to make that clearer.)

    so i traded in my xt and my AC15 (never bonded with it) and got an X3 live. can't wait to play with pod farm too (guitar rig-ish plug-in).
  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    exhausted wrote:
    ok, i'm an idiot. the X3 does have a PC editor. it's just not line6 edit. it's gearbox. they need to make that clearer.)

    so i traded in my xt and my AC15 (never bonded with it) and got an X3 live. can't wait to play with pod farm too (guitar rig-ish plug-in).


    Why not get the M13? I figured you'd be the target user for one of those.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    mccreadyisgod wrote:
    Why not get the M13? I figured you'd be the target user for one of those.

    i would have but i still need the amp models for recording. i don't think the M13 comes with the pod farm license etc.

    i very rarely if ever record with live amps because of the kids etc.

    the M13 looks very cool though. lots of pros already have them racked up.
  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    If I'd known the M13 (or X3 Live, for that matter) was coming down the pipes, I probably wouldn't have gotten my XT Live. The X3 fixes a couple of key problems I have with the XT, and has more stuff in it to boot. The M13, on the other hand, I would probably use a lot more.

    I hear you on the "silent recording" side of things, though... I've got about two more weeks to make noise before we have a little noisemaker of our own. Time to brush up on acoustic... maybe start a Dashboard Confessional cover set. I don't know what I'm going to do with my drums...

    I really want to try out an M13, just for the record.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    try an X3 sometime. the dual amping is spectacular. my XT served me well for four years but the x3 really does sound better. what do you feel is lacking with the XT live (i only had the bean).

    only bummer on the X3 live is there is still no way (that i know of) to engage/disengage the reverb (i like to have a simple spring verb and then a big buckley-esque verb on hand, for every patch virtually) but i'm just going to use the live's effect loop for a DL4 (looping) and a reverb pedal (for the big verb). of course, you can always just switch between two copies of the tone but that's a PITA when you tweak a lot.

    congrats on the impending arrival. it's a touch adjustment but you'll figure it out.
  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Well... the mic input is a great feature, as are the XLR direct outputs. The boost. I wouldn't probably use it, but the XT doesn't have an FX loop.

    I agree on the 'verb switch. Hell, I wish they'd put a generic 'verb in the delay bank so I could have SOMETHING on a footswitch. At least the X3 has a 'verb knob in the control section.

    The other thing I wish they'd figure out is how to get multiple FX in-line from each bank. What if I want a comp AND autowah? Or phaser AND tremolo?

    I also think a gig bag should be included. I need one, but can't quite get over spending $60 more. I should just get one of the cheapie pedalboard cases off eBay.

    EDIT: Oh, and the controls on the X3 just seem like they'd be more convenient and faster to use. The XT is a lot of push this, then this, then tweak that, and THEN you're changing a parameter. Takes too many steps for some things. The 'verb alone is ten pages deep.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    figured out how to switch the verb on and off. assign it to the comp/boost switch.

    also figured out that my 250K ernie ball will work as a second expression pedal. sweet.

    i'm mounting mine to my big nyc pedalboard but i agree a piece of gear worth this much should come with a bag.
  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    exhausted wrote:
    figured out how to switch the verb on and off. assign it to the comp/boost switch.


    That would help me if I had a comp/boost switch.
    exhausted wrote:
    also figured out that my 250K ernie ball will work as a second expression pedal. sweet.


    I've heard that, but never needed to access that feature... what jack do you use on the VP? I figured it was the regular output, but never really knew for sure.
    exhausted wrote:
    i'm mounting mine to my big nyc pedalboard but i agree a piece of gear worth this much should come with a bag.

    There used to be more of these, a bigger selection of designs:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ATA-Case-RECESSED-for-LINE-6-PODXT-BASS-PODXT-POD-XT_W0QQitemZ270277752327QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

    But you get the idea. For $100 I can get an ATA-style (if not ATA-quality) hard case, as opposed to a softshell Line 6 bag for $60.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    mccreadyisgod wrote:
    That would help me if I had a comp/boost switch.




    I've heard that, but never needed to access that feature... what jack do you use on the VP? I figured it was the regular output, but never really knew for sure.



    There used to be more of these, a bigger selection of designs:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ATA-Case-RECESSED-for-LINE-6-PODXT-BASS-PODXT-POD-XT_W0QQitemZ270277752327QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

    But you get the idea. For $100 I can get an ATA-style (if not ATA-quality) hard case, as opposed to a softshell Line 6 bag for $60.

    oh right, i'm thinking of the FBV boards. they have the comp/boost.

    the ernie ball works ok but the range isn't right. a quick parallel resistor will fix that. i'm using the regular output.
  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    The only thing I've ever wanted to use that for was a Digitech Whammy sorta thing... I think it's called a "Bender" under the Stomp menu. If their external expression pedal didn't look and feel like a cheap piece of crap, I'd just get one of those. I'd really prefer a Vox / Crybaby sort of pedal enclosure. Maybe I should look for an old crapped-out wah, utilize the case, and re-wire the guts.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    as long as the pot is something like 10K i think. i put a 15K across the pot in the EB (it's all i had) and it improved things but the range still isn't right. i'll need to research it more. if nothing else, i'll do the same, find a wah case and gut it. even the boss EV-5 is $80 up here. the L6 pedal is crap.

    i want it for whammy and for delay feedback mostly but you can even assign it to the effect loop parameters in the x3.
  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    I have a feeling that if someone took a Vox / Crybaby style enclosure and made a good, reliable expression pedal out of it, they could make a pretty good penny with the gearheads out there. Nobody makes one that's ever been worth a damn. Someone should tell RMC or Teese to get on that, already.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    mccreadyisgod wrote:
    I have a feeling that if someone took a Vox / Crybaby style enclosure and made a good, reliable expression pedal out of it, they could make a pretty good penny with the gearheads out there. Nobody makes one that's ever been worth a damn. Someone should tell RMC or Teese to get on that, already.

    i looked it up. it needs to be a 10K pot. others will work but part of the sweep of the pedal will have no effect.

    with the xt live, can you assign the board's pedal as a tweak? i mean, it's easy enough to just have a normal volume pedal in front of the unit and then use the onboard for tweaking or wah. i use wah so little that i think i'll just do that.
  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    exhausted wrote:
    with the xt live, can you assign the board's pedal as a tweak? i mean, it's easy enough to just have a normal volume pedal in front of the unit and then use the onboard for tweaking or wah. i use wah so little that i think i'll just do that.


    Yeah, you can definitely do that. I just hate that the thing was designed with an expression input, but there isn't a decent expression pedal out there to plug into it.

    Maybe I'll just have to get over it, and use the on-board exp pedal. I can always use the tuner to mute.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.

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