The Dismantling of Higher Education in America
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Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:so it WASNT going to research for new medicines, cancer treatments, etc etc etc....the research that the rest of the world takes advantage of?
leaving aside that those endowments are for specific purposes and harvard is required by law to adhere to that? but no, its just a pile of money sitting tere._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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mickeyrat said:Halifax2TheMax said:mickeyrat said:so it WASNT going to research for new medicines, cancer treatments, etc etc etc....the research that the rest of the world takes advantage of?
leaving aside that those endowments are for specific purposes and harvard is required by law to adhere to that? but no, its just a pile of money sitting tere.
And yes, donor money is legally required to be spent for the declared purpose/mission as solicited and/or donated. Also, subject to both internal and external audit and reporting requirements.Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:PJ_Soul said:Just a tid-bit for anyone curious about the ever-expanding list of points that are comparable between the Trump admin and the Nazi regime: Schools were forced to adjust curriculum to conform to Nazi ideology.
And for shits and giggles, what kind of curriculum do you think those home schoolers and private schools are going to teach with those public tax dollars?To quote you, for shits and giggles, you realize this is completely false, right? More up north misinformation as we cheer on the Oilers!Harvard is free to set its own curriculum.
This has nothing to do with Nazi Germany. The difference is, they have to fund it themselves through student tuition, which is the American way. Interesting that the socialists would not understand that. What’s wrong with re-examining how much of your tax dollars, assuming you pay American taxes, go to subsidize billionaire universities, and their foreign students, before we give them your money?
so subsidizing billionaire job creators with tax cuts is bad (it is) but spending billions to subsidize billionaire universities is good, right? It’s very difficult to understand the liberal logic.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shivaramrajgopal/2025/03/14/taxing-universities/
https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf24332
https://sciencetechaction.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/The-Incredible-Incomparable-ROI-of-RD_5.15-1.pdfYou might want to think twice (lol, u?) before accusing me of being insane, because if you bothered to read your Forbes article, there’s a lot agreed on. Example excerpt below.
Of course liberal extremism here misunderstood my point. Unis are free to set their own curriculum, but if they want taxpayer handouts perhaps there should be standards, which could get set by the election winners (so figure out how to do so!) The nazi setting curriculum attack from the person in the socialist nation made a false claim. That was my point…
” Implicit in the administration’s actions are concerns about bloat and wastage of taxpayer money. It would be naïve to argue that there is none of that. I am biased because I work for a university, but I try and take the other side of the debate and suggest two ways forward.Targeted cuts
First, the government might want to consider targeted cuts instead of broad-based ones. Cuts can be based on a thoughtful analysis of past results of the research funding and an assessment of the potential for future benefits. I am no medical scientist, but I suspect research in certain areas have more tangible benefits than others. “
People are free to attend any university they can apply to and be accepted. There are liberal and conservative college campuses across the country. Does Liberty University accept or receive tax payer dollars in any form? Why not cut theirs? For the record, I don’t think you have a clue on how private and public universities are funded, how they’re operated and where the dollars come from and go. If you want to debate types of research projects that are funded, that’s a completely different argument than what your chasing your marbles for.
If you really want to know what university endowments pay for, where tuition dollars are spent, how much comes from where, you can read their annual reports, typically available on line via their website. I suggest you do some research.Dude, you are so extreme you are accusing me of making stuff up? THE TARGETED CUTS SUGGESTION COMES FROM YOUR FORBES ARTICLE.
It’s not my job to justify where their funding comes from. That’s Harvard‘s job. Which by the way has a long history of violating federal civil rights laws. An organizational felon shouldn’t be receiving taxpayer handouts.My job as an American is the point out that we are $40 trillion in debt and it’s not my job to figure out how they pay for their research. That’s their job. handouts to billionaires shouldn’t occur whether it’s to an entrepreneur or whether it’s a university…have some consistency with your freaking policies.They want taxpayer handouts, but zero accountability to taxpayers. That’s genius.
and my job is also to point out lies perpetrated by people from socialist nations on this forum. This is not Germany, Harvard is free to set their own curriculum. Once they start accepting taxpayer money, and then decide to operate outside the law is a slippery slope, created by them.Why a billionaire university needs handouts from a country $40 trillion in debt, with zero negotiation, is beyond logic.0 -
Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:PJ_Soul said:Just a tid-bit for anyone curious about the ever-expanding list of points that are comparable between the Trump admin and the Nazi regime: Schools were forced to adjust curriculum to conform to Nazi ideology.
And for shits and giggles, what kind of curriculum do you think those home schoolers and private schools are going to teach with those public tax dollars?To quote you, for shits and giggles, you realize this is completely false, right? More up north misinformation as we cheer on the Oilers!Harvard is free to set its own curriculum.
This has nothing to do with Nazi Germany. The difference is, they have to fund it themselves through student tuition, which is the American way. Interesting that the socialists would not understand that. What’s wrong with re-examining how much of your tax dollars, assuming you pay American taxes, go to subsidize billionaire universities, and their foreign students, before we give them your money?
so subsidizing billionaire job creators with tax cuts is bad (it is) but spending billions to subsidize billionaire universities is good, right? It’s very difficult to understand the liberal logic.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shivaramrajgopal/2025/03/14/taxing-universities/
https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf24332
https://sciencetechaction.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/The-Incredible-Incomparable-ROI-of-RD_5.15-1.pdfYou might want to think twice (lol, u?) before accusing me of being insane, because if you bothered to read your Forbes article, there’s a lot agreed on. Example excerpt below.
Of course liberal extremism here misunderstood my point. Unis are free to set their own curriculum, but if they want taxpayer handouts perhaps there should be standards, which could get set by the election winners (so figure out how to do so!) The nazi setting curriculum attack from the person in the socialist nation made a false claim. That was my point…
” Implicit in the administration’s actions are concerns about bloat and wastage of taxpayer money. It would be naïve to argue that there is none of that. I am biased because I work for a university, but I try and take the other side of the debate and suggest two ways forward.Targeted cuts
First, the government might want to consider targeted cuts instead of broad-based ones. Cuts can be based on a thoughtful analysis of past results of the research funding and an assessment of the potential for future benefits. I am no medical scientist, but I suspect research in certain areas have more tangible benefits than others. “
People are free to attend any university they can apply to and be accepted. There are liberal and conservative college campuses across the country. Does Liberty University accept or receive tax payer dollars in any form? Why not cut theirs? For the record, I don’t think you have a clue on how private and public universities are funded, how they’re operated and where the dollars come from and go. If you want to debate types of research projects that are funded, that’s a completely different argument than what your chasing your marbles for.
If you really want to know what university endowments pay for, where tuition dollars are spent, how much comes from where, you can read their annual reports, typically available on line via their website. I suggest you do some research.Dude, you are so extreme you are accusing me of making stuff up? THE TARGETED CUTS SUGGESTION COMES FROM YOUR FORBES ARTICLE.
It’s not my job to justify where their funding comes from. That’s Harvard‘s job. Which by the way has a long history of violating federal civil rights laws. An organizational felon shouldn’t be receiving taxpayer handouts.My job as an American is the point out that we are $40 trillion in debt and it’s not my job to figure out how they pay for their research. That’s their job. handouts to billionaires shouldn’t occur whether it’s to an entrepreneur or whether it’s a university…have some consistency with your freaking policies.They want taxpayer handouts, but zero accountability to taxpayers. That’s genius.
and my job is also to point out lies perpetrated by people from socialist nations on this forum. This is not Germany, Harvard is free to set their own curriculum. Once they start accepting taxpayer money, and then decide to operate outside the law is a slippery slope, created by them.Why a billionaire university needs handouts from a country $40 trillion in debt, with zero negotiation, is beyond logic.
I’m pointing out to you, if you’ll release your ALL CAPS BUTTON FOR A MOMENT, that targeted cuts to individual research projects that COOTWH might disagree with, for whatever reason, are not happening. It’s a blanket cut of whatever the amount was, $800 million?, without regard to what research it funds. You don’t understand what endowments are for, why they exist and what they do. Ignorance is leading to fascism. What happened to you, too much DEI?
What law are the colleges and universities operating outside of? Name the statute they violated.In one instance, McMahon and Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., appeared to flub a simple math equation while discussing funding for TRIO, a federal program that helps low-income students afford college. Kennedy asked McMahon about $1.58 billion he said was being spent annually on the program, which he then calculated as amounting to more than $1 trillion over 10 years. This glaring error — which Kennedy repeated several times in his line of questioning — went unchecked by McMahon.
The Trump administration has no shortage of individuals who seem to lack a basic understanding of the departments they lead, but McMahon — with her repeated public missteps — arguably tops the list. Certainly, this is not an ideal trait for an agency head, particularly when that person is tasked with ensuring the proper, fair and effective teaching of America’s students.
If you’re looking for an expert on pile drivers and “Stone Cold Stunners,” Linda McMahon may be the one to call. But when it comes to knowledge of the U.S. education system, it seems abundantly clear she’s lacking in that department.
https://apple.news/AoYvnZXg8QneAQS8hb8wGJQ
And yes, you’re making shit up. Turn off Faux News.
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Making shit up like the Secretary of Education and the MAGA way:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKdgRP7oNBa/?igsh=ODVvbTZtdTd1bDV4
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Halifax2TheMax said:Making shit up like the Secretary of Education and the MAGA way:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKdgRP7oNBa/?igsh=ODVvbTZtdTd1bDV40 -
Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:PJ_Soul said:Just a tid-bit for anyone curious about the ever-expanding list of points that are comparable between the Trump admin and the Nazi regime: Schools were forced to adjust curriculum to conform to Nazi ideology.
And for shits and giggles, what kind of curriculum do you think those home schoolers and private schools are going to teach with those public tax dollars?To quote you, for shits and giggles, you realize this is completely false, right? More up north misinformation as we cheer on the Oilers!Harvard is free to set its own curriculum.
This has nothing to do with Nazi Germany. The difference is, they have to fund it themselves through student tuition, which is the American way. Interesting that the socialists would not understand that. What’s wrong with re-examining how much of your tax dollars, assuming you pay American taxes, go to subsidize billionaire universities, and their foreign students, before we give them your money?
so subsidizing billionaire job creators with tax cuts is bad (it is) but spending billions to subsidize billionaire universities is good, right? It’s very difficult to understand the liberal logic.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shivaramrajgopal/2025/03/14/taxing-universities/
https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf24332
https://sciencetechaction.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/The-Incredible-Incomparable-ROI-of-RD_5.15-1.pdfYou might want to think twice (lol, u?) before accusing me of being insane, because if you bothered to read your Forbes article, there’s a lot agreed on. Example excerpt below.
Of course liberal extremism here misunderstood my point. Unis are free to set their own curriculum, but if they want taxpayer handouts perhaps there should be standards, which could get set by the election winners (so figure out how to do so!) The nazi setting curriculum attack from the person in the socialist nation made a false claim. That was my point…
” Implicit in the administration’s actions are concerns about bloat and wastage of taxpayer money. It would be naïve to argue that there is none of that. I am biased because I work for a university, but I try and take the other side of the debate and suggest two ways forward.Targeted cuts
First, the government might want to consider targeted cuts instead of broad-based ones. Cuts can be based on a thoughtful analysis of past results of the research funding and an assessment of the potential for future benefits. I am no medical scientist, but I suspect research in certain areas have more tangible benefits than others. “
People are free to attend any university they can apply to and be accepted. There are liberal and conservative college campuses across the country. Does Liberty University accept or receive tax payer dollars in any form? Why not cut theirs? For the record, I don’t think you have a clue on how private and public universities are funded, how they’re operated and where the dollars come from and go. If you want to debate types of research projects that are funded, that’s a completely different argument than what your chasing your marbles for.
If you really want to know what university endowments pay for, where tuition dollars are spent, how much comes from where, you can read their annual reports, typically available on line via their website. I suggest you do some research.Dude, you are so extreme you are accusing me of making stuff up? THE TARGETED CUTS SUGGESTION COMES FROM YOUR FORBES ARTICLE.
It’s not my job to justify where their funding comes from. That’s Harvard‘s job. Which by the way has a long history of violating federal civil rights laws. An organizational felon shouldn’t be receiving taxpayer handouts.My job as an American is the point out that we are $40 trillion in debt and it’s not my job to figure out how they pay for their research. That’s their job. handouts to billionaires shouldn’t occur whether it’s to an entrepreneur or whether it’s a university…have some consistency with your freaking policies.They want taxpayer handouts, but zero accountability to taxpayers. That’s genius.
and my job is also to point out lies perpetrated by people from socialist nations on this forum. This is not Germany, Harvard is free to set their own curriculum. Once they start accepting taxpayer money, and then decide to operate outside the law is a slippery slope, created by them.Why a billionaire university needs handouts from a country $40 trillion in debt, with zero negotiation, is beyond logic.
I’m pointing out to you, if you’ll release your ALL CAPS BUTTON FOR A MOMENT, that targeted cuts to individual research projects that COOTWH might disagree with, for whatever reason, are not happening. It’s a blanket cut of whatever the amount was, $800 million?, without regard to what research it funds. You don’t understand what endowments are for, why they exist and what they do. Ignorance is leading to fascism. What happened to you, too much DEI?
What law are the colleges and universities operating outside of? Name the statute they violated.In one instance, McMahon and Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., appeared to flub a simple math equation while discussing funding for TRIO, a federal program that helps low-income students afford college. Kennedy asked McMahon about $1.58 billion he said was being spent annually on the program, which he then calculated as amounting to more than $1 trillion over 10 years. This glaring error — which Kennedy repeated several times in his line of questioning — went unchecked by McMahon.
The Trump administration has no shortage of individuals who seem to lack a basic understanding of the departments they lead, but McMahon — with her repeated public missteps — arguably tops the list. Certainly, this is not an ideal trait for an agency head, particularly when that person is tasked with ensuring the proper, fair and effective teaching of America’s students.
If you’re looking for an expert on pile drivers and “Stone Cold Stunners,” Linda McMahon may be the one to call. But when it comes to knowledge of the U.S. education system, it seems abundantly clear she’s lacking in that department.
https://apple.news/AoYvnZXg8QneAQS8hb8wGJQ
And yes, you’re making shit up. Turn off Faux News.
Just because someone agrees that the administration is making reasonable points about funding higher education and research while $40 trillion in debt, does not mean that everything done by the administration is agreed with.
perhaps we should look for other ways to fund universities. In addition to mandating that they spend some of their endowments, Perhaps we should start to tax or charge foreign countries…For the economic benefits they receive for pennies on the dollar. Also, perhaps we should have an additional line on our tax returns, voluntary contribution for university research. There you go. You and Your buddies here and up north can pay as much as you all want0 -
Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:PJ_Soul said:Just a tid-bit for anyone curious about the ever-expanding list of points that are comparable between the Trump admin and the Nazi regime: Schools were forced to adjust curriculum to conform to Nazi ideology.
And for shits and giggles, what kind of curriculum do you think those home schoolers and private schools are going to teach with those public tax dollars?To quote you, for shits and giggles, you realize this is completely false, right? More up north misinformation as we cheer on the Oilers!Harvard is free to set its own curriculum.
This has nothing to do with Nazi Germany. The difference is, they have to fund it themselves through student tuition, which is the American way. Interesting that the socialists would not understand that. What’s wrong with re-examining how much of your tax dollars, assuming you pay American taxes, go to subsidize billionaire universities, and their foreign students, before we give them your money?
so subsidizing billionaire job creators with tax cuts is bad (it is) but spending billions to subsidize billionaire universities is good, right? It’s very difficult to understand the liberal logic.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shivaramrajgopal/2025/03/14/taxing-universities/
https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf24332
https://sciencetechaction.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/The-Incredible-Incomparable-ROI-of-RD_5.15-1.pdfYou might want to think twice (lol, u?) before accusing me of being insane, because if you bothered to read your Forbes article, there’s a lot agreed on. Example excerpt below.
Of course liberal extremism here misunderstood my point. Unis are free to set their own curriculum, but if they want taxpayer handouts perhaps there should be standards, which could get set by the election winners (so figure out how to do so!) The nazi setting curriculum attack from the person in the socialist nation made a false claim. That was my point…
” Implicit in the administration’s actions are concerns about bloat and wastage of taxpayer money. It would be naïve to argue that there is none of that. I am biased because I work for a university, but I try and take the other side of the debate and suggest two ways forward.Targeted cuts
First, the government might want to consider targeted cuts instead of broad-based ones. Cuts can be based on a thoughtful analysis of past results of the research funding and an assessment of the potential for future benefits. I am no medical scientist, but I suspect research in certain areas have more tangible benefits than others. “
People are free to attend any university they can apply to and be accepted. There are liberal and conservative college campuses across the country. Does Liberty University accept or receive tax payer dollars in any form? Why not cut theirs? For the record, I don’t think you have a clue on how private and public universities are funded, how they’re operated and where the dollars come from and go. If you want to debate types of research projects that are funded, that’s a completely different argument than what your chasing your marbles for.
If you really want to know what university endowments pay for, where tuition dollars are spent, how much comes from where, you can read their annual reports, typically available on line via their website. I suggest you do some research.Dude, you are so extreme you are accusing me of making stuff up? THE TARGETED CUTS SUGGESTION COMES FROM YOUR FORBES ARTICLE.
It’s not my job to justify where their funding comes from. That’s Harvard‘s job. Which by the way has a long history of violating federal civil rights laws. An organizational felon shouldn’t be receiving taxpayer handouts.My job as an American is the point out that we are $40 trillion in debt and it’s not my job to figure out how they pay for their research. That’s their job. handouts to billionaires shouldn’t occur whether it’s to an entrepreneur or whether it’s a university…have some consistency with your freaking policies.They want taxpayer handouts, but zero accountability to taxpayers. That’s genius.
and my job is also to point out lies perpetrated by people from socialist nations on this forum. This is not Germany, Harvard is free to set their own curriculum. Once they start accepting taxpayer money, and then decide to operate outside the law is a slippery slope, created by them.Why a billionaire university needs handouts from a country $40 trillion in debt, with zero negotiation, is beyond logic.
I’m pointing out to you, if you’ll release your ALL CAPS BUTTON FOR A MOMENT, that targeted cuts to individual research projects that COOTWH might disagree with, for whatever reason, are not happening. It’s a blanket cut of whatever the amount was, $800 million?, without regard to what research it funds. You don’t understand what endowments are for, why they exist and what they do. Ignorance is leading to fascism. What happened to you, too much DEI?
What law are the colleges and universities operating outside of? Name the statute they violated.In one instance, McMahon and Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., appeared to flub a simple math equation while discussing funding for TRIO, a federal program that helps low-income students afford college. Kennedy asked McMahon about $1.58 billion he said was being spent annually on the program, which he then calculated as amounting to more than $1 trillion over 10 years. This glaring error — which Kennedy repeated several times in his line of questioning — went unchecked by McMahon.
The Trump administration has no shortage of individuals who seem to lack a basic understanding of the departments they lead, but McMahon — with her repeated public missteps — arguably tops the list. Certainly, this is not an ideal trait for an agency head, particularly when that person is tasked with ensuring the proper, fair and effective teaching of America’s students.
If you’re looking for an expert on pile drivers and “Stone Cold Stunners,” Linda McMahon may be the one to call. But when it comes to knowledge of the U.S. education system, it seems abundantly clear she’s lacking in that department.
https://apple.news/AoYvnZXg8QneAQS8hb8wGJQ
And yes, you’re making shit up. Turn off Faux News.
Just because someone agrees that the administration is making reasonable points about funding higher education and research while $40 trillion in debt, does not mean that everything done by the administration is agreed with.
perhaps we should look for other ways to fund universities. In addition to mandating that they spend some of their endowments, Perhaps we should start to tax or charge foreign countries…For the economic benefits they receive for pennies on the dollar. Also, perhaps we should have an additional line on our tax returns, voluntary contribution for university research. There you go. You and Your buddies here and up north can pay as much as you all want
09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:PJ_Soul said:Just a tid-bit for anyone curious about the ever-expanding list of points that are comparable between the Trump admin and the Nazi regime: Schools were forced to adjust curriculum to conform to Nazi ideology.
And for shits and giggles, what kind of curriculum do you think those home schoolers and private schools are going to teach with those public tax dollars?To quote you, for shits and giggles, you realize this is completely false, right? More up north misinformation as we cheer on the Oilers!Harvard is free to set its own curriculum.
This has nothing to do with Nazi Germany. The difference is, they have to fund it themselves through student tuition, which is the American way. Interesting that the socialists would not understand that. What’s wrong with re-examining how much of your tax dollars, assuming you pay American taxes, go to subsidize billionaire universities, and their foreign students, before we give them your money?
so subsidizing billionaire job creators with tax cuts is bad (it is) but spending billions to subsidize billionaire universities is good, right? It’s very difficult to understand the liberal logic.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shivaramrajgopal/2025/03/14/taxing-universities/
https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf24332
https://sciencetechaction.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/The-Incredible-Incomparable-ROI-of-RD_5.15-1.pdfYou might want to think twice (lol, u?) before accusing me of being insane, because if you bothered to read your Forbes article, there’s a lot agreed on. Example excerpt below.
Of course liberal extremism here misunderstood my point. Unis are free to set their own curriculum, but if they want taxpayer handouts perhaps there should be standards, which could get set by the election winners (so figure out how to do so!) The nazi setting curriculum attack from the person in the socialist nation made a false claim. That was my point…
” Implicit in the administration’s actions are concerns about bloat and wastage of taxpayer money. It would be naïve to argue that there is none of that. I am biased because I work for a university, but I try and take the other side of the debate and suggest two ways forward.Targeted cuts
First, the government might want to consider targeted cuts instead of broad-based ones. Cuts can be based on a thoughtful analysis of past results of the research funding and an assessment of the potential for future benefits. I am no medical scientist, but I suspect research in certain areas have more tangible benefits than others. “
People are free to attend any university they can apply to and be accepted. There are liberal and conservative college campuses across the country. Does Liberty University accept or receive tax payer dollars in any form? Why not cut theirs? For the record, I don’t think you have a clue on how private and public universities are funded, how they’re operated and where the dollars come from and go. If you want to debate types of research projects that are funded, that’s a completely different argument than what your chasing your marbles for.
If you really want to know what university endowments pay for, where tuition dollars are spent, how much comes from where, you can read their annual reports, typically available on line via their website. I suggest you do some research.Dude, you are so extreme you are accusing me of making stuff up? THE TARGETED CUTS SUGGESTION COMES FROM YOUR FORBES ARTICLE.
It’s not my job to justify where their funding comes from. That’s Harvard‘s job. Which by the way has a long history of violating federal civil rights laws. An organizational felon shouldn’t be receiving taxpayer handouts.My job as an American is the point out that we are $40 trillion in debt and it’s not my job to figure out how they pay for their research. That’s their job. handouts to billionaires shouldn’t occur whether it’s to an entrepreneur or whether it’s a university…have some consistency with your freaking policies.They want taxpayer handouts, but zero accountability to taxpayers. That’s genius.
and my job is also to point out lies perpetrated by people from socialist nations on this forum. This is not Germany, Harvard is free to set their own curriculum. Once they start accepting taxpayer money, and then decide to operate outside the law is a slippery slope, created by them.Why a billionaire university needs handouts from a country $40 trillion in debt, with zero negotiation, is beyond logic.
I’m pointing out to you, if you’ll release your ALL CAPS BUTTON FOR A MOMENT, that targeted cuts to individual research projects that COOTWH might disagree with, for whatever reason, are not happening. It’s a blanket cut of whatever the amount was, $800 million?, without regard to what research it funds. You don’t understand what endowments are for, why they exist and what they do. Ignorance is leading to fascism. What happened to you, too much DEI?
What law are the colleges and universities operating outside of? Name the statute they violated.In one instance, McMahon and Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., appeared to flub a simple math equation while discussing funding for TRIO, a federal program that helps low-income students afford college. Kennedy asked McMahon about $1.58 billion he said was being spent annually on the program, which he then calculated as amounting to more than $1 trillion over 10 years. This glaring error — which Kennedy repeated several times in his line of questioning — went unchecked by McMahon.
The Trump administration has no shortage of individuals who seem to lack a basic understanding of the departments they lead, but McMahon — with her repeated public missteps — arguably tops the list. Certainly, this is not an ideal trait for an agency head, particularly when that person is tasked with ensuring the proper, fair and effective teaching of America’s students.
If you’re looking for an expert on pile drivers and “Stone Cold Stunners,” Linda McMahon may be the one to call. But when it comes to knowledge of the U.S. education system, it seems abundantly clear she’s lacking in that department.
https://apple.news/AoYvnZXg8QneAQS8hb8wGJQ
And yes, you’re making shit up. Turn off Faux News.
Just because someone agrees that the administration is making reasonable points about funding higher education and research while $40 trillion in debt, does not mean that everything done by the administration is agreed with.
perhaps we should look for other ways to fund universities. In addition to mandating that they spend some of their endowments, Perhaps we should start to tax or charge foreign countries…For the economic benefits they receive for pennies on the dollar. Also, perhaps we should have an additional line on our tax returns, voluntary contribution for university research. There you go. You and Your buddies here and up north can pay as much as you all wantIt doesn’t matter. I’ve told you numerous times it’s not the taxpayers responsibility to understand the mechanics of find accounting. SEE!
it’s our money, we are in debt, they have billions, plus the ability to earn massive revenue each year. They are free to do what they want with their curriculum, but they are not entitled to receive taxpayer money and do whatever they want.Another example of liberal histrionics that will help republicans.0 -
Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:PJ_Soul said:Just a tid-bit for anyone curious about the ever-expanding list of points that are comparable between the Trump admin and the Nazi regime: Schools were forced to adjust curriculum to conform to Nazi ideology.
And for shits and giggles, what kind of curriculum do you think those home schoolers and private schools are going to teach with those public tax dollars?To quote you, for shits and giggles, you realize this is completely false, right? More up north misinformation as we cheer on the Oilers!Harvard is free to set its own curriculum.
This has nothing to do with Nazi Germany. The difference is, they have to fund it themselves through student tuition, which is the American way. Interesting that the socialists would not understand that. What’s wrong with re-examining how much of your tax dollars, assuming you pay American taxes, go to subsidize billionaire universities, and their foreign students, before we give them your money?
so subsidizing billionaire job creators with tax cuts is bad (it is) but spending billions to subsidize billionaire universities is good, right? It’s very difficult to understand the liberal logic.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shivaramrajgopal/2025/03/14/taxing-universities/
https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf24332
https://sciencetechaction.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/The-Incredible-Incomparable-ROI-of-RD_5.15-1.pdfYou might want to think twice (lol, u?) before accusing me of being insane, because if you bothered to read your Forbes article, there’s a lot agreed on. Example excerpt below.
Of course liberal extremism here misunderstood my point. Unis are free to set their own curriculum, but if they want taxpayer handouts perhaps there should be standards, which could get set by the election winners (so figure out how to do so!) The nazi setting curriculum attack from the person in the socialist nation made a false claim. That was my point…
” Implicit in the administration’s actions are concerns about bloat and wastage of taxpayer money. It would be naïve to argue that there is none of that. I am biased because I work for a university, but I try and take the other side of the debate and suggest two ways forward.Targeted cuts
First, the government might want to consider targeted cuts instead of broad-based ones. Cuts can be based on a thoughtful analysis of past results of the research funding and an assessment of the potential for future benefits. I am no medical scientist, but I suspect research in certain areas have more tangible benefits than others. “
People are free to attend any university they can apply to and be accepted. There are liberal and conservative college campuses across the country. Does Liberty University accept or receive tax payer dollars in any form? Why not cut theirs? For the record, I don’t think you have a clue on how private and public universities are funded, how they’re operated and where the dollars come from and go. If you want to debate types of research projects that are funded, that’s a completely different argument than what your chasing your marbles for.
If you really want to know what university endowments pay for, where tuition dollars are spent, how much comes from where, you can read their annual reports, typically available on line via their website. I suggest you do some research.Dude, you are so extreme you are accusing me of making stuff up? THE TARGETED CUTS SUGGESTION COMES FROM YOUR FORBES ARTICLE.
It’s not my job to justify where their funding comes from. That’s Harvard‘s job. Which by the way has a long history of violating federal civil rights laws. An organizational felon shouldn’t be receiving taxpayer handouts.My job as an American is the point out that we are $40 trillion in debt and it’s not my job to figure out how they pay for their research. That’s their job. handouts to billionaires shouldn’t occur whether it’s to an entrepreneur or whether it’s a university…have some consistency with your freaking policies.They want taxpayer handouts, but zero accountability to taxpayers. That’s genius.
and my job is also to point out lies perpetrated by people from socialist nations on this forum. This is not Germany, Harvard is free to set their own curriculum. Once they start accepting taxpayer money, and then decide to operate outside the law is a slippery slope, created by them.Why a billionaire university needs handouts from a country $40 trillion in debt, with zero negotiation, is beyond logic.
I’m pointing out to you, if you’ll release your ALL CAPS BUTTON FOR A MOMENT, that targeted cuts to individual research projects that COOTWH might disagree with, for whatever reason, are not happening. It’s a blanket cut of whatever the amount was, $800 million?, without regard to what research it funds. You don’t understand what endowments are for, why they exist and what they do. Ignorance is leading to fascism. What happened to you, too much DEI?
What law are the colleges and universities operating outside of? Name the statute they violated.In one instance, McMahon and Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., appeared to flub a simple math equation while discussing funding for TRIO, a federal program that helps low-income students afford college. Kennedy asked McMahon about $1.58 billion he said was being spent annually on the program, which he then calculated as amounting to more than $1 trillion over 10 years. This glaring error — which Kennedy repeated several times in his line of questioning — went unchecked by McMahon.
The Trump administration has no shortage of individuals who seem to lack a basic understanding of the departments they lead, but McMahon — with her repeated public missteps — arguably tops the list. Certainly, this is not an ideal trait for an agency head, particularly when that person is tasked with ensuring the proper, fair and effective teaching of America’s students.
If you’re looking for an expert on pile drivers and “Stone Cold Stunners,” Linda McMahon may be the one to call. But when it comes to knowledge of the U.S. education system, it seems abundantly clear she’s lacking in that department.
https://apple.news/AoYvnZXg8QneAQS8hb8wGJQ
And yes, you’re making shit up. Turn off Faux News.
Just because someone agrees that the administration is making reasonable points about funding higher education and research while $40 trillion in debt, does not mean that everything done by the administration is agreed with.
perhaps we should look for other ways to fund universities. In addition to mandating that they spend some of their endowments, Perhaps we should start to tax or charge foreign countries…For the economic benefits they receive for pennies on the dollar. Also, perhaps we should have an additional line on our tax returns, voluntary contribution for university research. There you go. You and Your buddies here and up north can pay as much as you all wantIt doesn’t matter. I’ve told you numerous times it’s not the taxpayers responsibility to understand the mechanics of find accounting. SEE!
it’s our money, we are in debt, they have billions, plus the ability to earn massive revenue each year. They are free to do what they want with their curriculum, but they are not entitled to receive taxpayer money and do whatever they want.Another example of liberal histrionics that will help republicans.
Maybe comprehend the Secretary of Education wanting “diversity of thought” in exchange for government funding. Straight up Nazi shit. But I get it, you’re all in.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:PJ_Soul said:Just a tid-bit for anyone curious about the ever-expanding list of points that are comparable between the Trump admin and the Nazi regime: Schools were forced to adjust curriculum to conform to Nazi ideology.
And for shits and giggles, what kind of curriculum do you think those home schoolers and private schools are going to teach with those public tax dollars?To quote you, for shits and giggles, you realize this is completely false, right? More up north misinformation as we cheer on the Oilers!Harvard is free to set its own curriculum.
This has nothing to do with Nazi Germany. The difference is, they have to fund it themselves through student tuition, which is the American way. Interesting that the socialists would not understand that. What’s wrong with re-examining how much of your tax dollars, assuming you pay American taxes, go to subsidize billionaire universities, and their foreign students, before we give them your money?
so subsidizing billionaire job creators with tax cuts is bad (it is) but spending billions to subsidize billionaire universities is good, right? It’s very difficult to understand the liberal logic.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shivaramrajgopal/2025/03/14/taxing-universities/
https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf24332
https://sciencetechaction.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/The-Incredible-Incomparable-ROI-of-RD_5.15-1.pdfYou might want to think twice (lol, u?) before accusing me of being insane, because if you bothered to read your Forbes article, there’s a lot agreed on. Example excerpt below.
Of course liberal extremism here misunderstood my point. Unis are free to set their own curriculum, but if they want taxpayer handouts perhaps there should be standards, which could get set by the election winners (so figure out how to do so!) The nazi setting curriculum attack from the person in the socialist nation made a false claim. That was my point…
” Implicit in the administration’s actions are concerns about bloat and wastage of taxpayer money. It would be naïve to argue that there is none of that. I am biased because I work for a university, but I try and take the other side of the debate and suggest two ways forward.Targeted cuts
First, the government might want to consider targeted cuts instead of broad-based ones. Cuts can be based on a thoughtful analysis of past results of the research funding and an assessment of the potential for future benefits. I am no medical scientist, but I suspect research in certain areas have more tangible benefits than others. “
People are free to attend any university they can apply to and be accepted. There are liberal and conservative college campuses across the country. Does Liberty University accept or receive tax payer dollars in any form? Why not cut theirs? For the record, I don’t think you have a clue on how private and public universities are funded, how they’re operated and where the dollars come from and go. If you want to debate types of research projects that are funded, that’s a completely different argument than what your chasing your marbles for.
If you really want to know what university endowments pay for, where tuition dollars are spent, how much comes from where, you can read their annual reports, typically available on line via their website. I suggest you do some research.Dude, you are so extreme you are accusing me of making stuff up? THE TARGETED CUTS SUGGESTION COMES FROM YOUR FORBES ARTICLE.
It’s not my job to justify where their funding comes from. That’s Harvard‘s job. Which by the way has a long history of violating federal civil rights laws. An organizational felon shouldn’t be receiving taxpayer handouts.My job as an American is the point out that we are $40 trillion in debt and it’s not my job to figure out how they pay for their research. That’s their job. handouts to billionaires shouldn’t occur whether it’s to an entrepreneur or whether it’s a university…have some consistency with your freaking policies.They want taxpayer handouts, but zero accountability to taxpayers. That’s genius.
and my job is also to point out lies perpetrated by people from socialist nations on this forum. This is not Germany, Harvard is free to set their own curriculum. Once they start accepting taxpayer money, and then decide to operate outside the law is a slippery slope, created by them.Why a billionaire university needs handouts from a country $40 trillion in debt, with zero negotiation, is beyond logic.
I’m pointing out to you, if you’ll release your ALL CAPS BUTTON FOR A MOMENT, that targeted cuts to individual research projects that COOTWH might disagree with, for whatever reason, are not happening. It’s a blanket cut of whatever the amount was, $800 million?, without regard to what research it funds. You don’t understand what endowments are for, why they exist and what they do. Ignorance is leading to fascism. What happened to you, too much DEI?
What law are the colleges and universities operating outside of? Name the statute they violated.In one instance, McMahon and Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., appeared to flub a simple math equation while discussing funding for TRIO, a federal program that helps low-income students afford college. Kennedy asked McMahon about $1.58 billion he said was being spent annually on the program, which he then calculated as amounting to more than $1 trillion over 10 years. This glaring error — which Kennedy repeated several times in his line of questioning — went unchecked by McMahon.
The Trump administration has no shortage of individuals who seem to lack a basic understanding of the departments they lead, but McMahon — with her repeated public missteps — arguably tops the list. Certainly, this is not an ideal trait for an agency head, particularly when that person is tasked with ensuring the proper, fair and effective teaching of America’s students.
If you’re looking for an expert on pile drivers and “Stone Cold Stunners,” Linda McMahon may be the one to call. But when it comes to knowledge of the U.S. education system, it seems abundantly clear she’s lacking in that department.
https://apple.news/AoYvnZXg8QneAQS8hb8wGJQ
And yes, you’re making shit up. Turn off Faux News.
Just because someone agrees that the administration is making reasonable points about funding higher education and research while $40 trillion in debt, does not mean that everything done by the administration is agreed with.
perhaps we should look for other ways to fund universities. In addition to mandating that they spend some of their endowments, Perhaps we should start to tax or charge foreign countries…For the economic benefits they receive for pennies on the dollar. Also, perhaps we should have an additional line on our tax returns, voluntary contribution for university research. There you go. You and Your buddies here and up north can pay as much as you all wantIt doesn’t matter. I’ve told you numerous times it’s not the taxpayers responsibility to understand the mechanics of find accounting. SEE!
it’s our money, we are in debt, they have billions, plus the ability to earn massive revenue each year. They are free to do what they want with their curriculum, but they are not entitled to receive taxpayer money and do whatever they want.Another example of liberal histrionics that will help republicans.
Maybe comprehend the Secretary of Education wanting “diversity of thought” in exchange for government funding. Straight up Nazi shit. But I get it, you’re all in.I said they can do what they want with their curriculum. If you’re gonna quote me, have the decency to get it right.
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Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:Lerxst1992 said:Halifax2TheMax said:PJ_Soul said:Just a tid-bit for anyone curious about the ever-expanding list of points that are comparable between the Trump admin and the Nazi regime: Schools were forced to adjust curriculum to conform to Nazi ideology.
And for shits and giggles, what kind of curriculum do you think those home schoolers and private schools are going to teach with those public tax dollars?To quote you, for shits and giggles, you realize this is completely false, right? More up north misinformation as we cheer on the Oilers!Harvard is free to set its own curriculum.
This has nothing to do with Nazi Germany. The difference is, they have to fund it themselves through student tuition, which is the American way. Interesting that the socialists would not understand that. What’s wrong with re-examining how much of your tax dollars, assuming you pay American taxes, go to subsidize billionaire universities, and their foreign students, before we give them your money?
so subsidizing billionaire job creators with tax cuts is bad (it is) but spending billions to subsidize billionaire universities is good, right? It’s very difficult to understand the liberal logic.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shivaramrajgopal/2025/03/14/taxing-universities/
https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf24332
https://sciencetechaction.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/The-Incredible-Incomparable-ROI-of-RD_5.15-1.pdfYou might want to think twice (lol, u?) before accusing me of being insane, because if you bothered to read your Forbes article, there’s a lot agreed on. Example excerpt below.
Of course liberal extremism here misunderstood my point. Unis are free to set their own curriculum, but if they want taxpayer handouts perhaps there should be standards, which could get set by the election winners (so figure out how to do so!) The nazi setting curriculum attack from the person in the socialist nation made a false claim. That was my point…
” Implicit in the administration’s actions are concerns about bloat and wastage of taxpayer money. It would be naïve to argue that there is none of that. I am biased because I work for a university, but I try and take the other side of the debate and suggest two ways forward.Targeted cuts
First, the government might want to consider targeted cuts instead of broad-based ones. Cuts can be based on a thoughtful analysis of past results of the research funding and an assessment of the potential for future benefits. I am no medical scientist, but I suspect research in certain areas have more tangible benefits than others. “
People are free to attend any university they can apply to and be accepted. There are liberal and conservative college campuses across the country. Does Liberty University accept or receive tax payer dollars in any form? Why not cut theirs? For the record, I don’t think you have a clue on how private and public universities are funded, how they’re operated and where the dollars come from and go. If you want to debate types of research projects that are funded, that’s a completely different argument than what your chasing your marbles for.
If you really want to know what university endowments pay for, where tuition dollars are spent, how much comes from where, you can read their annual reports, typically available on line via their website. I suggest you do some research.Dude, you are so extreme you are accusing me of making stuff up? THE TARGETED CUTS SUGGESTION COMES FROM YOUR FORBES ARTICLE.
It’s not my job to justify where their funding comes from. That’s Harvard‘s job. Which by the way has a long history of violating federal civil rights laws. An organizational felon shouldn’t be receiving taxpayer handouts.My job as an American is the point out that we are $40 trillion in debt and it’s not my job to figure out how they pay for their research. That’s their job. handouts to billionaires shouldn’t occur whether it’s to an entrepreneur or whether it’s a university…have some consistency with your freaking policies.They want taxpayer handouts, but zero accountability to taxpayers. That’s genius.
and my job is also to point out lies perpetrated by people from socialist nations on this forum. This is not Germany, Harvard is free to set their own curriculum. Once they start accepting taxpayer money, and then decide to operate outside the law is a slippery slope, created by them.Why a billionaire university needs handouts from a country $40 trillion in debt, with zero negotiation, is beyond logic.
I’m pointing out to you, if you’ll release your ALL CAPS BUTTON FOR A MOMENT, that targeted cuts to individual research projects that COOTWH might disagree with, for whatever reason, are not happening. It’s a blanket cut of whatever the amount was, $800 million?, without regard to what research it funds. You don’t understand what endowments are for, why they exist and what they do. Ignorance is leading to fascism. What happened to you, too much DEI?
What law are the colleges and universities operating outside of? Name the statute they violated.In one instance, McMahon and Sen. John Kennedy, R-La., appeared to flub a simple math equation while discussing funding for TRIO, a federal program that helps low-income students afford college. Kennedy asked McMahon about $1.58 billion he said was being spent annually on the program, which he then calculated as amounting to more than $1 trillion over 10 years. This glaring error — which Kennedy repeated several times in his line of questioning — went unchecked by McMahon.
The Trump administration has no shortage of individuals who seem to lack a basic understanding of the departments they lead, but McMahon — with her repeated public missteps — arguably tops the list. Certainly, this is not an ideal trait for an agency head, particularly when that person is tasked with ensuring the proper, fair and effective teaching of America’s students.
If you’re looking for an expert on pile drivers and “Stone Cold Stunners,” Linda McMahon may be the one to call. But when it comes to knowledge of the U.S. education system, it seems abundantly clear she’s lacking in that department.
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And yes, you’re making shit up. Turn off Faux News.
Just because someone agrees that the administration is making reasonable points about funding higher education and research while $40 trillion in debt, does not mean that everything done by the administration is agreed with.
perhaps we should look for other ways to fund universities. In addition to mandating that they spend some of their endowments, Perhaps we should start to tax or charge foreign countries…For the economic benefits they receive for pennies on the dollar. Also, perhaps we should have an additional line on our tax returns, voluntary contribution for university research. There you go. You and Your buddies here and up north can pay as much as you all wantIt doesn’t matter. I’ve told you numerous times it’s not the taxpayers responsibility to understand the mechanics of find accounting. SEE!
it’s our money, we are in debt, they have billions, plus the ability to earn massive revenue each year. They are free to do what they want with their curriculum, but they are not entitled to receive taxpayer money and do whatever they want.Another example of liberal histrionics that will help republicans.
Maybe comprehend the Secretary of Education wanting “diversity of thought” in exchange for government funding. Straight up Nazi shit. But I get it, you’re all in.I said they can do what they want with their curriculum. If you’re gonna quote me, have the decency to get it right.
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