Can we talk about ageism?

cincybearcat · May 26

shecky said:

cincybearcat said:

I would like to add, all the comments about Joe and Trump being too old is spot on and not ageism. Is ability based

That's President Biden in 2023 on the left, and President Trump yesterday on the right.

Now show Trump walking down the ramp….

and then play the eating cats and dogs over and over again. He is not well. He is not smart.

brianlux · May 26

cincybearcat said:

shecky said:

cincybearcat said:

I would like to add, all the comments about Joe and Trump being too old is spot on and not ageism. Is ability based

That's President Biden in 2023 on the left, and President Trump yesterday on the right.

Now show Trump walking down the ramp….

and then play the eating cats and dogs over and over again. He is not well. He is not smart.

His posts sometimes are a big favor to me in that they shy me away from the toxic pit that is AMT.

Thank you, Shecky!

gimmesometruth27 · May 26

shecky said:

cincybearcat said:

I would like to add, all the comments about Joe and Trump being too old is spot on and not ageism. Is ability based

That's President Biden in 2023 on the left, and President Trump yesterday on the right.

i wonder why you did not post a pic of your boy drinking water with two hands from a sippy cup.

gimmesometruth27 · May 26

i do not think it is ageism for me to say that it is time for people like schumer and pelosi and all of the older folks in power within the democratic party to pass the torch. they have been in power for decades and they are actively working to keep younger folks with newer and more progressive ideas down. this is not good for the party or the country.

there is a time to exercise self awareness. there is a time to give up power and let the younger generations have the power. their time is past, and they are keeping the party in the past.

it's time for them to move aside. otherwise the dems will continue to lose.

brianlux · May 26

gimmesometruth27 said:

i do not think it is ageism for me to say that it is time for people like schumer and pelosi and all of the older folks in power within the democratic party to pass the torch. they have been in power for decades and they are actively working to keep younger folks with newer and more progressive ideas down. this is not good for the party or the country.

there is a time to exercise self awareness. there is a time to give up power and let the younger generations have the power. their time is past, and they are keeping the party in the past.

it's time for them to move aside. otherwise the dems will continue to lose.

Agreed, I'm very much in favor of those old politicians passing the torch. (Hell, I'm "older", Pelosi is flat out old

)

DE4173 · May 26

gimmesometruth27 said:

i do not think it is ageism for me to say that it is time for people like schumer and pelosi and all of the older folks in power within the democratic party to pass the torch. they have been in power for decades and they are actively working to keep younger folks with newer and more progressive ideas down. this is not good for the party or the country.

there is a time to exercise self awareness. there is a time to give up power and let the younger generations have the power. their time is past, and they are keeping the party in the past.

it's time for them to move aside. otherwise the dems will continue to lose.

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Donald Payne Jr. (New Jersey, died April 2024, age 65, heart attack complications)

Sheila Jackson Lee (Texas, died July 2024, age 74, pancreatic cancer)

Bill Pascrell (New Jersey, died August 2024, age 87, respiratory failure)

Sylvester Turner (Texas, died March 2025, age 70, unspecified health complications)

Raúl Grijalva (Arizona, died March 2025, age 77, cancer complications)

Gerry Connolly (Virginia, died May 2025, age 75, esophageal cancer)

brianlux · May 27

DE4173 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i do not think it is ageism for me to say that it is time for people like schumer and pelosi and all of the older folks in power within the democratic party to pass the torch. they have been in power for decades and they are actively working to keep younger folks with newer and more progressive ideas down. this is not good for the party or the country.

there is a time to exercise self awareness. there is a time to give up power and let the younger generations have the power. their time is past, and they are keeping the party in the past.

it's time for them to move aside. otherwise the dems will continue to lose.

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Donald Payne Jr. (New Jersey, died April 2024, age 65, heart attack complications)

Sheila Jackson Lee (Texas, died July 2024, age 74, pancreatic cancer)

Bill Pascrell (New Jersey, died August 2024, age 87, respiratory failure)

Sylvester Turner (Texas, died March 2025, age 70, unspecified health complications)

Raúl Grijalva (Arizona, died March 2025, age 77, cancer complications)

Gerry Connolly (Virginia, died May 2025, age 75, esophageal cancer)

Average age = 74.67 yrs.

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Halifax2TheMax · May 27

brianlux said:

DE4173 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i do not think it is ageism for me to say that it is time for people like schumer and pelosi and all of the older folks in power within the democratic party to pass the torch. they have been in power for decades and they are actively working to keep younger folks with newer and more progressive ideas down. this is not good for the party or the country.

there is a time to exercise self awareness. there is a time to give up power and let the younger generations have the power. their time is past, and they are keeping the party in the past.

it's time for them to move aside. otherwise the dems will continue to lose.

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Donald Payne Jr. (New Jersey, died April 2024, age 65, heart attack complications)

Sheila Jackson Lee (Texas, died July 2024, age 74, pancreatic cancer)

Bill Pascrell (New Jersey, died August 2024, age 87, respiratory failure)

Sylvester Turner (Texas, died March 2025, age 70, unspecified health complications)

Raúl Grijalva (Arizona, died March 2025, age 77, cancer complications)

Gerry Connolly (Virginia, died May 2025, age 75, esophageal cancer)

Average age = 74.67 yrs.

Half a decade less than the average US life expectancy of 79.25. Must be the food in the cafeteria.

brianlux · May 27

Halifax2TheMax said:

brianlux said:

DE4173 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i do not think it is ageism for me to say that it is time for people like schumer and pelosi and all of the older folks in power within the democratic party to pass the torch. they have been in power for decades and they are actively working to keep younger folks with newer and more progressive ideas down. this is not good for the party or the country.

there is a time to exercise self awareness. there is a time to give up power and let the younger generations have the power. their time is past, and they are keeping the party in the past.

it's time for them to move aside. otherwise the dems will continue to lose.

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

Donald Payne Jr. (New Jersey, died April 2024, age 65, heart attack complications)

Sheila Jackson Lee (Texas, died July 2024, age 74, pancreatic cancer)

Bill Pascrell (New Jersey, died August 2024, age 87, respiratory failure)

Sylvester Turner (Texas, died March 2025, age 70, unspecified health complications)

Raúl Grijalva (Arizona, died March 2025, age 77, cancer complications)

Gerry Connolly (Virginia, died May 2025, age 75, esophageal cancer)

Average age = 74.67 yrs.

Half a decade less than the average US life expectancy of 79.25. Must be the food in the cafeteria.

Phew! Good thing I mostly eat at home then!

tempo_n_groove · May 27

My sister suffered from Ageism for her work. She is a web designer. She had a very hard time getting work because of her age... She was 42.

Zod · May 27

Actually I've wondered if life expectancy will start to decrease due to food supply and lack of health care.

I had to change my diet for for health issues, and now I see that 90% of the grocery store is bad for you. I can't unlearn what I learned :(

My grandparents lived to the very end of their 80s. They did a lot of gardening and ate pretty healthy. Not sure many people do things like that anymore.

OnWis97 · May 27

shecky said:

static111 said:

shecky said:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/mike-rowe-warns-declining-work-ethic-younger-generatiActor who has presumably never worked a real job in life criticizes others for not working hard enough, lol. Very insightful. Stick to promoting trades which is actually one of the things I respect him for, being a welder and welding inspector and coming from a trades background. Playing the political blame game and saying younger people don’t have work ethic really is not the way to go. The way I see it is companies are not offering enough to keep the younger generations at the table. When rent, groceries, gas etc is unaffordable and you are expecting younger people to work for $18 an hour and sacrifice 40 plus hours a week, you are part of the problem. 10 years ago that was a lot of money, the world has moved on. If companies want more young blood, they need to accommodate. I sure wish I wouldn’t have had to work as hard as I have to get where I am. Good on the kids for not accepting the bullshit crumbs that they are being offered.

Funny that all the younger folks I come across that have good pay and a pathway to advancement have no problem working. It’s almost like employers need to offer more.

When were wages for young people ever "high enough", or rent, groceries, gas etc. ever "affordable"?

I left Ohio after high school in 1975 and hitchhiked out to California - "the land of dreams!". My very first job, making the minimum wage of $2.00 an hour, was working the night shift at a self-service gas station. I was robbed at gunpoint one night, so I quit the next day. I quickly found a better (and safer) job.

I never went to college but I always could find a job - usually hard, physical work but it "paid the bills". Eventually, one learns skills and gains knowledge so you start getting better jobs, where you not only can "pay the bills" but can save money, too.

Fast foward fifty years, and I was finally able to retire recently. Monthly, I collect Social Security (which I paid for from each paycheck over the years), a union pension check (which I paid for via union dues from each paycheck) and I also managed to save and invest over the years.

Besides young people complaining about it, I do get tired of people of my generation complaining that "the government doesn't take care of them"! You receive Social Security based on how much you paid in over the decades, and it never was intended to be a retiree's sole income. It's one's responsibilty to save up money over the decades for one's own retirement.

Life has never been easy!

In the 1970s just about anyone who had a full-time job could buy a house.* What happened? Shareholder capitalism (and St. Ronald) along with materialism (i.e., the three-car-garage cul-de-sac home replacing the 950-square-foot home in new construction).

I think the biggest beef people have with the boomers is they're the last generation to secure the American Dream simply by working hard. From the 1980s to the aughts, the cost-of-living outpaced income and most of our labor goes towards filling the pockets of faceless people we'll never meet. Is that entirely the fault of boomers? Not really. As pointed out in the first response, generational labels are almost entirely about generalizations..."latch-key kids" of Gen X, Millennials (or is it Gen Y) being softened by helicopter parents. There's truth in these, but they're not universal.

*PS and this is the way it ought to be. But most of us like to look down on people too much...

OnWis97 · May 27

Zod said:

Actually I've wondered if life expectancy will start to decrease due to food supply and lack of health care.

I had to change my diet for for health issues, and now I see that 90% of the grocery store is bad for you. I can't unlearn what I learned :(

My grandparents lived to the very end of their 80s. They did a lot of gardening and ate pretty healthy. Not sure many people do things like that anymore.

When you look at our weight/obesity levels over the last few decades, I have to think we'll see a decline. Between that, the cost of healthcare and the general stress of most people living entire lifetimes without economic security, I think it'll go down.

It's apparently even dropping now for other reasons:
Why life expectancy in the US is falling - Harvard Health

brianlux · May 27

tempo_n_groove said:

My sister suffered from Ageism for her work. She is a web designer. She had a very hard time getting work because of her age... She was 42.

Oh man, that's sad!

brianlux · May 27

Zod said:

Actually I've wondered if life expectancy will start to decrease due to food supply and lack of health care.

I had to change my diet for for health issues, and now I see that 90% of the grocery store is bad for you. I can't unlearn what I learned :(

My grandparents lived to the very end of their 80s. They did a lot of gardening and ate pretty healthy. Not sure many people do things like that anymore.

I read somewhere that life expectancy is, indeed, lowering a bit. In this country, having environmental protections being dismantled left and right is not helping.

brianlux · May 27

OnWis97 said:

Zod said:

Actually I've wondered if life expectancy will start to decrease due to food supply and lack of health care.

I had to change my diet for for health issues, and now I see that 90% of the grocery store is bad for you. I can't unlearn what I learned :(

My grandparents lived to the very end of their 80s. They did a lot of gardening and ate pretty healthy. Not sure many people do things like that anymore.

When you look at our weight/obesity levels over the last few decades, I have to think we'll see a decline. Between that, the cost of healthcare and the general stress of most people living entire lifetimes without economic security, I think it'll go down.

It's apparently even dropping now for other reasons:
Why life expectancy in the US is falling - Harvard Health

So sad. We could have done so much better. I remember once hearing that more and more people will live to be centenarians. No so likely now. I guess the new radical right must hate life.

HughFreakingDillon · May 27

Labels are just language. A way to describe a group. If the majority of that group did some shitty things or shitty things happened on their watch, so to speak, the entire group gets lumped in.

Some people intend to lump the entire group, like when someone says “the left”, others don’t, like when we say “boomers fucked us”. 😂

brianlux · May 27

HughFreakingDillon said:

Labels are just language. A way to describe a group. If the majority of that group did some shitty things or shitty things happened on their watch, so to speak, the entire group gets lumped in.

Some people intend to lump the entire group, like when someone says “the left”, others don’t, like when we say “boomers fucked us”. 😂

... or, "All boomers are elitist radical leftist commies."

cincybearcat · May 28

Saw this online and made me think of this thread ….

tempo_n_groove · May 28

brianlux said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Labels are just language. A way to describe a group. If the majority of that group did some shitty things or shitty things happened on their watch, so to speak, the entire group gets lumped in.

Some people intend to lump the entire group, like when someone says “the left”, others don’t, like when we say “boomers fucked us”. 😂

... or, "All boomers are elitist radical leftist commies."

I thought you became more conservative when older?

Can we talk about ageism?

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