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I guess I don't get it. A MAGA Satire Special? Weird.DE4173 said:Post edited by brianlux on"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m fighting against the minimization of what is occurring. Even the WWII comparison is not apt as we were at war and had been attacked by Japan. COOTWH is claiming the same justification for his EO to call in the NG and military, in violation of the constitution. Sheriff Joe didn’t do that.tempo_n_groove said:
I was actually agreeing w you but whatever man. False equivalence that I used was showing that Trumps admin could be facing lawsuits in the future. but again false equivalency.Halifax2TheMax said:
If you’re comparing a rogue sheriff versus a rogue POTUS, no. Sheriff Joe had way more violations of law that were detrimental and I believe was sued for, back when we had a functioning DOJ. It was also contained to Arizona and specifically Maricopa County. The shit COOTWH and Herr Miller applies every where in ‘Murikkka and the threats apply to everyone. And like J6 convicts he was pardoned by COOTWH. The shit happening in LA and in cities and places across the country IS DIFFERENT than anything experienced in our lifetimes. The parallel would be the internment of Japanese citizens during WWII. Also done by EO.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah we are where we are at because reading comprehension is gone and tunnel vision is in full effect.... I brought up Sherriff joe as an example of what is happening now. That's the parallel. Sorry if you missed that and thought it was dumb. I'll clarify it better for you, they ended up paying millions in lawsuits because of what Joe did. He even went to prison for it. So that was dumb of me to bring up that as a comparison?Halifax2TheMax said:
And I’ll say it again, the way Obama and Brandon did it. The individual in the video I posted is a US citizen. You made some dumb comparison to Sheriff Joe Arpao.tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The way Obama and Brandon did it. And you seem okay with US citizens being arrested and detained without charge as nary a condemnation of the event that I posted. He was arrested and held for hours because he was the “other” working construction.tempo_n_groove said:
Actually no. I believe in enforcing immigration but not scared of being eliminated... It's ok to be pro enforcement and not be a racist/biggot, add word here.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s amazing to me that certain posters are all in on US citizens being arrested and detained without warrants or charges. They’re only crime? Being “the other.” And some even believe that their white privilege will spare them. Why? Because they fear elimination of the white race and believe all “others” are here illegally and are criminals. Nice to be this guy, eh?
Showz me your paperz!
Arresting people for probable cause is admitted without a warrant. I remember Joe Arpajo doing that and it not working out for him though.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
Where did I say any of this? Reaching aren't we?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Actually no. I believe in enforcing immigration but not scared of being eliminated... It's ok to be pro enforcement and not be a racist/biggot, add word here.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s amazing to me that certain posters are all in on US citizens being arrested and detained without warrants or charges. They’re only crime? Being “the other.” And some even believe that their white privilege will spare them. Why? Because they fear elimination of the white race and believe all “others” are here illegally and are criminals. Nice to be this guy, eh?
Showz me your paperz!
Arresting people for probable cause is admitted without a warrant. I remember Joe Arpajo doing that and it not working out for him though.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
do you wait at courts or immigration offices and snatch people doing what they are supposed to as required?
So i ask again.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
No wonder this country is where it’s at.
I don’t expect COOTWH to pay millions or anyone in his administration to go to jail for what they’re doing and going to do. It’s too late.
Stop trying to minimize what is happening with false comparisons.
And I’ll point out again regarding enforcement of immigration LAW, like Obama and Brandon did it.
Even when I give you a W you fight against it.
”Facing lawsuits” is different than losing in court or ignoring court orders. I have no faith in the courts because SCOTUS has been compromised and COOTWH is ignoring court orders with no consequences. Sheriff Joe or Maricopa County went to jail and paid up. That is not happening here. Sheriff Joe was a known, elected official and those carrying out his orders were unmasked sheriffs and employees of the county. Who the fuck are these masked, armed individuals snatching people off the street? What are their credentials, badge numbers, training and experience and where did they come from, if on loan from another law enforcement agency? Where’s the accountability to those who are paying their salaries and apparent bonuses, the taxpayers?
This shit is the dark hole of authoritarianism that we’re swirling down and it seems most are ignorant to it or, more likely, agree with it because “white privilege.” IMHO.
I feel like Americans, for the most part (not you), are still in a pretty serious state of denial about what is happening. I'm not participating very much in all of these very interesting discussions. The reason for that is I simply don't have the energy to say what I want to say (i've got some medical and other shit to deal with, and have to minimize my stress). I do find that a good place to go to see healthy and apt discussions about everything that is happening right now is The Bulwark via YouTube.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
How the Troops feel:
Three different advocacy organisations representing military families said they had heard from dozens of affected service members who expressed discomfort about being drawn into a domestic policing operation outside their normal field of operations. The groups said they have heard no countervailing opinions.
“The sentiment across the board right now is that deploying military force against our own communities isn’t the kind of national security we signed up for,” said Sarah Streyder of the Secure Families Initiative, which represents the interests of military spouses, children and veterans.
“Families are scared not just for their loved ones’ safety, although that’s a big concern, but also for what their service is being used to justify.”
Chris Purdy of the Chamberlain Network, whose stated mission is to “mobilize and empower veterans to protect democracy”, said he had heard similar things from half a dozen national guard members. “Morale is not great, is the quote I keep hearing,” he said.
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I would really like to know how service members feel about that absolutely insane Fort Bragg rally, and how the service members selected for the crowd behaved. What have the commanding officers of the attendees who got political done about it?!?!?!With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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I’d like a reporter to ask the border witch how many illegal immigrants from Asia Europe and eastern block have been deported
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You're doing the right thing in prioritizing your health! All that has been going on has taken a toll on untold numbers of peoples well-being. Hope all of your medical issues and other things going on improve as soon as possible. 🙏PJ_Soul said:Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m fighting against the minimization of what is occurring. Even the WWII comparison is not apt as we were at war and had been attacked by Japan. COOTWH is claiming the same justification for his EO to call in the NG and military, in violation of the constitution. Sheriff Joe didn’t do that.tempo_n_groove said:
I was actually agreeing w you but whatever man. False equivalence that I used was showing that Trumps admin could be facing lawsuits in the future. but again false equivalency.Halifax2TheMax said:
If you’re comparing a rogue sheriff versus a rogue POTUS, no. Sheriff Joe had way more violations of law that were detrimental and I believe was sued for, back when we had a functioning DOJ. It was also contained to Arizona and specifically Maricopa County. The shit COOTWH and Herr Miller applies every where in ‘Murikkka and the threats apply to everyone. And like J6 convicts he was pardoned by COOTWH. The shit happening in LA and in cities and places across the country IS DIFFERENT than anything experienced in our lifetimes. The parallel would be the internment of Japanese citizens during WWII. Also done by EO.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah we are where we are at because reading comprehension is gone and tunnel vision is in full effect.... I brought up Sherriff joe as an example of what is happening now. That's the parallel. Sorry if you missed that and thought it was dumb. I'll clarify it better for you, they ended up paying millions in lawsuits because of what Joe did. He even went to prison for it. So that was dumb of me to bring up that as a comparison?Halifax2TheMax said:
And I’ll say it again, the way Obama and Brandon did it. The individual in the video I posted is a US citizen. You made some dumb comparison to Sheriff Joe Arpao.tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The way Obama and Brandon did it. And you seem okay with US citizens being arrested and detained without charge as nary a condemnation of the event that I posted. He was arrested and held for hours because he was the “other” working construction.tempo_n_groove said:
Actually no. I believe in enforcing immigration but not scared of being eliminated... It's ok to be pro enforcement and not be a racist/biggot, add word here.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s amazing to me that certain posters are all in on US citizens being arrested and detained without warrants or charges. They’re only crime? Being “the other.” And some even believe that their white privilege will spare them. Why? Because they fear elimination of the white race and believe all “others” are here illegally and are criminals. Nice to be this guy, eh?
Showz me your paperz!
Arresting people for probable cause is admitted without a warrant. I remember Joe Arpajo doing that and it not working out for him though.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
Where did I say any of this? Reaching aren't we?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Actually no. I believe in enforcing immigration but not scared of being eliminated... It's ok to be pro enforcement and not be a racist/biggot, add word here.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s amazing to me that certain posters are all in on US citizens being arrested and detained without warrants or charges. They’re only crime? Being “the other.” And some even believe that their white privilege will spare them. Why? Because they fear elimination of the white race and believe all “others” are here illegally and are criminals. Nice to be this guy, eh?
Showz me your paperz!
Arresting people for probable cause is admitted without a warrant. I remember Joe Arpajo doing that and it not working out for him though.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
do you wait at courts or immigration offices and snatch people doing what they are supposed to as required?
So i ask again.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
No wonder this country is where it’s at.
I don’t expect COOTWH to pay millions or anyone in his administration to go to jail for what they’re doing and going to do. It’s too late.
Stop trying to minimize what is happening with false comparisons.
And I’ll point out again regarding enforcement of immigration LAW, like Obama and Brandon did it.
Even when I give you a W you fight against it.
”Facing lawsuits” is different than losing in court or ignoring court orders. I have no faith in the courts because SCOTUS has been compromised and COOTWH is ignoring court orders with no consequences. Sheriff Joe or Maricopa County went to jail and paid up. That is not happening here. Sheriff Joe was a known, elected official and those carrying out his orders were unmasked sheriffs and employees of the county. Who the fuck are these masked, armed individuals snatching people off the street? What are their credentials, badge numbers, training and experience and where did they come from, if on loan from another law enforcement agency? Where’s the accountability to those who are paying their salaries and apparent bonuses, the taxpayers?
This shit is the dark hole of authoritarianism that we’re swirling down and it seems most are ignorant to it or, more likely, agree with it because “white privilege.” IMHO.
I feel like Americans, for the most part (not you), are still in a pretty serious state of denial about what is happening. I'm not participating very much in all of these very interesting discussions. The reason for that is I simply don't have the energy to say what I want to say (i've got some medical and other shit to deal with, and have to minimize my stress). I do find that a good place to go to see healthy and apt discussions about everything that is happening right now is The Bulwark via YouTube.1993: 11/22 Little Rock
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DE4173 said:
You're doing the right thing in prioritizing your health! All that has been going on has taken a toll on untold numbers of peoples well-being. Hope all of your medical issues and other things going on improve as soon as possible. 🙏PJ_Soul said:Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m fighting against the minimization of what is occurring. Even the WWII comparison is not apt as we were at war and had been attacked by Japan. COOTWH is claiming the same justification for his EO to call in the NG and military, in violation of the constitution. Sheriff Joe didn’t do that.tempo_n_groove said:
I was actually agreeing w you but whatever man. False equivalence that I used was showing that Trumps admin could be facing lawsuits in the future. but again false equivalency.Halifax2TheMax said:
If you’re comparing a rogue sheriff versus a rogue POTUS, no. Sheriff Joe had way more violations of law that were detrimental and I believe was sued for, back when we had a functioning DOJ. It was also contained to Arizona and specifically Maricopa County. The shit COOTWH and Herr Miller applies every where in ‘Murikkka and the threats apply to everyone. And like J6 convicts he was pardoned by COOTWH. The shit happening in LA and in cities and places across the country IS DIFFERENT than anything experienced in our lifetimes. The parallel would be the internment of Japanese citizens during WWII. Also done by EO.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah we are where we are at because reading comprehension is gone and tunnel vision is in full effect.... I brought up Sherriff joe as an example of what is happening now. That's the parallel. Sorry if you missed that and thought it was dumb. I'll clarify it better for you, they ended up paying millions in lawsuits because of what Joe did. He even went to prison for it. So that was dumb of me to bring up that as a comparison?Halifax2TheMax said:
And I’ll say it again, the way Obama and Brandon did it. The individual in the video I posted is a US citizen. You made some dumb comparison to Sheriff Joe Arpao.tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The way Obama and Brandon did it. And you seem okay with US citizens being arrested and detained without charge as nary a condemnation of the event that I posted. He was arrested and held for hours because he was the “other” working construction.tempo_n_groove said:
Actually no. I believe in enforcing immigration but not scared of being eliminated... It's ok to be pro enforcement and not be a racist/biggot, add word here.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s amazing to me that certain posters are all in on US citizens being arrested and detained without warrants or charges. They’re only crime? Being “the other.” And some even believe that their white privilege will spare them. Why? Because they fear elimination of the white race and believe all “others” are here illegally and are criminals. Nice to be this guy, eh?
Showz me your paperz!
Arresting people for probable cause is admitted without a warrant. I remember Joe Arpajo doing that and it not working out for him though.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
Where did I say any of this? Reaching aren't we?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Actually no. I believe in enforcing immigration but not scared of being eliminated... It's ok to be pro enforcement and not be a racist/biggot, add word here.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s amazing to me that certain posters are all in on US citizens being arrested and detained without warrants or charges. They’re only crime? Being “the other.” And some even believe that their white privilege will spare them. Why? Because they fear elimination of the white race and believe all “others” are here illegally and are criminals. Nice to be this guy, eh?
Showz me your paperz!
Arresting people for probable cause is admitted without a warrant. I remember Joe Arpajo doing that and it not working out for him though.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
do you wait at courts or immigration offices and snatch people doing what they are supposed to as required?
So i ask again.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
No wonder this country is where it’s at.
I don’t expect COOTWH to pay millions or anyone in his administration to go to jail for what they’re doing and going to do. It’s too late.
Stop trying to minimize what is happening with false comparisons.
And I’ll point out again regarding enforcement of immigration LAW, like Obama and Brandon did it.
Even when I give you a W you fight against it.
”Facing lawsuits” is different than losing in court or ignoring court orders. I have no faith in the courts because SCOTUS has been compromised and COOTWH is ignoring court orders with no consequences. Sheriff Joe or Maricopa County went to jail and paid up. That is not happening here. Sheriff Joe was a known, elected official and those carrying out his orders were unmasked sheriffs and employees of the county. Who the fuck are these masked, armed individuals snatching people off the street? What are their credentials, badge numbers, training and experience and where did they come from, if on loan from another law enforcement agency? Where’s the accountability to those who are paying their salaries and apparent bonuses, the taxpayers?
This shit is the dark hole of authoritarianism that we’re swirling down and it seems most are ignorant to it or, more likely, agree with it because “white privilege.” IMHO.
I feel like Americans, for the most part (not you), are still in a pretty serious state of denial about what is happening. I'm not participating very much in all of these very interesting discussions. The reason for that is I simply don't have the energy to say what I want to say (i've got some medical and other shit to deal with, and have to minimize my stress). I do find that a good place to go to see healthy and apt discussions about everything that is happening right now is The Bulwark via YouTube.
Thank you!!
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I'm guessing it's a fairly even split unfortunately.PJ_Soul said:I would really like to know how service members feel about that absolutely insane Fort Bragg rally, and how the service members selected for the crowd behaved. What have the commanding officers of the attendees who got political done about it?!?!?!Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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PJ_Soul said:I would really like to know how service members feel about that absolutely insane Fort Bragg rally, and how the service members selected for the crowd behaved. What have the commanding officers of the attendees who got political done about it?!?!?!so attendance was voluntary, as such yyou got only supporters. given this wasnt technically a public event, it can be argued this didnt violate regs on their individual parts.in uniform they are to be outwardly apolitical in public. rightly so.as to why any service member would overlook the draft dodging and the statements such as suckers and losers as reported by a retired general, I have no idea.personally as a former sailor, I find his whole being offensive , particularly the military stuff... and stand by my oath at enlistment with a couple modificatios....I , _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of my conscience. So help me god.vs as recited at enlistment'I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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I've had arguments with magat veterans before. They either believe that he actually had bone spurs (he had bone spurs...Biden just had asthma blah blah blah) or they think that it was justifiable because "everyone who could was doing that"mickeyrat said:PJ_Soul said:I would really like to know how service members feel about that absolutely insane Fort Bragg rally, and how the service members selected for the crowd behaved. What have the commanding officers of the attendees who got political done about it?!?!?!so attendance was voluntary, as such yyou got only supporters. given this wasnt technically a public event, it can be argued this didnt violate regs on their individual parts.in uniform they are to be outwardly apolitical in public. rightly so.as to why any service member would overlook the draft dodging and the statements such as suckers and losers as reported by a retired general, I have no idea.personally as a former sailor, I find his whole being offensive , particularly the military stuff... and stand by my oath at enlistment with a couple modificatios....I , _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of my conscience. So help me god.vs as recited at enlistment'I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
They blow off the disparaging comments that he has made because Milley and Kelly are both liars.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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No reporter will ever get a straight honest answer.josevolution said:I’d like a reporter to ask the border witch how many illegal immigrants from Asia Europe and eastern block have been deported
Guarantee that the overwhelming majority of undocumented immigrants being unconstitutionally seized and deported are hispanic who came across the southern border
They absolutely do not care about white undocumented immigrants who come across the northern border or through airports or ports of call.
This whole "illiegal alien" situation is based wholly on racism and xenophobia.0 -
That’s how I see itBentleyspop said:
No reporter will ever get a straight honest answer.josevolution said:I’d like a reporter to ask the border witch how many illegal immigrants from Asia Europe and eastern block have been deported
Guarantee that the overwhelming majority of undocumented immigrants being unconstitutionally seized and deported are hispanic who came across the southern border
They absolutely do not care about white undocumented immigrants who come across the northern border or through airports or ports of call.
This whole "illiegal alien" situation is based wholly on racism and xenophobia.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
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In the defense of the police I’d say she was walking towards them like really menacing posturing! Fuck those copsmickeyrat said:Woman in video appears unarmed as she walks alone before police shoot her near her residence 🔗👉 https://ebx.sh/DGx1fKjesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
DE4173 said:
You're doing the right thing in prioritizing your health! All that has been going on has taken a toll on untold numbers of peoples well-being. Hope all of your medical issues and other things going on improve as soon as possible. 🙏PJ_Soul said:Halifax2TheMax said:
I’m fighting against the minimization of what is occurring. Even the WWII comparison is not apt as we were at war and had been attacked by Japan. COOTWH is claiming the same justification for his EO to call in the NG and military, in violation of the constitution. Sheriff Joe didn’t do that.tempo_n_groove said:
I was actually agreeing w you but whatever man. False equivalence that I used was showing that Trumps admin could be facing lawsuits in the future. but again false equivalency.Halifax2TheMax said:
If you’re comparing a rogue sheriff versus a rogue POTUS, no. Sheriff Joe had way more violations of law that were detrimental and I believe was sued for, back when we had a functioning DOJ. It was also contained to Arizona and specifically Maricopa County. The shit COOTWH and Herr Miller applies every where in ‘Murikkka and the threats apply to everyone. And like J6 convicts he was pardoned by COOTWH. The shit happening in LA and in cities and places across the country IS DIFFERENT than anything experienced in our lifetimes. The parallel would be the internment of Japanese citizens during WWII. Also done by EO.tempo_n_groove said:
Yeah we are where we are at because reading comprehension is gone and tunnel vision is in full effect.... I brought up Sherriff joe as an example of what is happening now. That's the parallel. Sorry if you missed that and thought it was dumb. I'll clarify it better for you, they ended up paying millions in lawsuits because of what Joe did. He even went to prison for it. So that was dumb of me to bring up that as a comparison?Halifax2TheMax said:
And I’ll say it again, the way Obama and Brandon did it. The individual in the video I posted is a US citizen. You made some dumb comparison to Sheriff Joe Arpao.tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
The way Obama and Brandon did it. And you seem okay with US citizens being arrested and detained without charge as nary a condemnation of the event that I posted. He was arrested and held for hours because he was the “other” working construction.tempo_n_groove said:
Actually no. I believe in enforcing immigration but not scared of being eliminated... It's ok to be pro enforcement and not be a racist/biggot, add word here.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s amazing to me that certain posters are all in on US citizens being arrested and detained without warrants or charges. They’re only crime? Being “the other.” And some even believe that their white privilege will spare them. Why? Because they fear elimination of the white race and believe all “others” are here illegally and are criminals. Nice to be this guy, eh?
Showz me your paperz!
Arresting people for probable cause is admitted without a warrant. I remember Joe Arpajo doing that and it not working out for him though.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
Where did I say any of this? Reaching aren't we?mickeyrat said:tempo_n_groove said:
Actually no. I believe in enforcing immigration but not scared of being eliminated... It's ok to be pro enforcement and not be a racist/biggot, add word here.Halifax2TheMax said:It’s amazing to me that certain posters are all in on US citizens being arrested and detained without warrants or charges. They’re only crime? Being “the other.” And some even believe that their white privilege will spare them. Why? Because they fear elimination of the white race and believe all “others” are here illegally and are criminals. Nice to be this guy, eh?
Showz me your paperz!
Arresting people for probable cause is admitted without a warrant. I remember Joe Arpajo doing that and it not working out for him though.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
do you wait at courts or immigration offices and snatch people doing what they are supposed to as required?
So i ask again.
How do you enforce immigration if you don't arrest and deport people?
No wonder this country is where it’s at.
I don’t expect COOTWH to pay millions or anyone in his administration to go to jail for what they’re doing and going to do. It’s too late.
Stop trying to minimize what is happening with false comparisons.
And I’ll point out again regarding enforcement of immigration LAW, like Obama and Brandon did it.
Even when I give you a W you fight against it.
”Facing lawsuits” is different than losing in court or ignoring court orders. I have no faith in the courts because SCOTUS has been compromised and COOTWH is ignoring court orders with no consequences. Sheriff Joe or Maricopa County went to jail and paid up. That is not happening here. Sheriff Joe was a known, elected official and those carrying out his orders were unmasked sheriffs and employees of the county. Who the fuck are these masked, armed individuals snatching people off the street? What are their credentials, badge numbers, training and experience and where did they come from, if on loan from another law enforcement agency? Where’s the accountability to those who are paying their salaries and apparent bonuses, the taxpayers?
This shit is the dark hole of authoritarianism that we’re swirling down and it seems most are ignorant to it or, more likely, agree with it because “white privilege.” IMHO.
I feel like Americans, for the most part (not you), are still in a pretty serious state of denial about what is happening. I'm not participating very much in all of these very interesting discussions. The reason for that is I simply don't have the energy to say what I want to say (i've got some medical and other shit to deal with, and have to minimize my stress). I do find that a good place to go to see healthy and apt discussions about everything that is happening right now is The Bulwark via YouTube.
Seconded. Take good care of yourself, my friend. :hug:"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Where’s that checks and balances dope

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Buh, buh, buh, buh it can’t happen here!Tim Simmons said:Where’s that checks and balances dope
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There are no checks and balances under totalitarian rule."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
More definitive proof that things like The Constitution and The Rule of Law mean nothing to these people.Tim Simmons said:Where’s that checks and balances dope
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