2025 Mad Season Above Vinyl Reissue - 7 variants .. update

allstar340

Do we think these (specifically the 10c variant) will ship before 04/25 or does Santos’s response here indicate otherwise? Seems like the lack of updates post a delay would indicate they aren’t optimistic. Frustrating to wait with no clarity for this but looking forward to finally getting a copy of this fantastic album on vinyl

demetrios

allstar340 said:

Do we think these (specifically the 10c variant) will ship before 04/25 or does Santos’s response here indicate otherwise? Seems like the lack of updates post a delay would indicate they aren’t optimistic. Frustrating to wait with no clarity for this but looking forward to finally getting a copy of this fantastic album on vinyl

He'll response on the Porch with an update.

demetrios

30 Years of Above

Speaking with Jason Kerepesi & Paul Ghiglieri of State of Love and Trust: A Pearl Jam Podcast, Mike explores the 1995 collaboration between himself, Layne Staley of Alice in Chains, drummer Barrett Martin of Screaming Trees, and bassist John Baker Saunders:
You know, the Mad Season record to me is very important in terms of… it's when I got clean and sober; it's the first time I felt like I could write songs, you know, felt comfortable writing songs because the guys in my band and Pearl Jam were really good fucking songwriters. I felt intimidated, I felt like  I couldn’t do it like they could. 

So, this record was a game changer for me. Like right after this, I wrote “Given to Fly” and a lot of stuff on Yield and some of the bigger PJ songs because of this situation, you know? I know it gave me the power - I don’t know if it’s the right word, power - but just kind of the confidence to write songs for Pearl Jam, you know? I’ll always love this record and feel sad about the record… there’s many emotions about it, but I love it for that main reason. (Watch ep. 250).

demetrios

demetrios said:

Ep. 250 - Mike McCready & 30 Years of Mad Season

  https://youtu.be/-92YnMMrV90 

State of Love & Trust: A Pearl Jam Podcast
@SOLATpod

once again, thanks to @10CTim & the @PearlJam team for promoting our chat with @MikeMcCreadyPJ in the 10c newsletter today. if you've not yet watched the chat we'll link it in the first reply. 🙏 #SOLATpod #pearljam

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https://lenoise.ca/products/mad-season-above-2lpcoloured

Bleach edition updated from 1000 to 3000 edition.

demetrios

Next Friday!

*fingers crossed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6E0Z8wqNDQ

demetrios

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ugeQVMhvPY

demetrios

Hopefully it'll be released next week. *fingers crossed 

jhulud

Is this new version hopefully out next week supposed to be remastered or anything? I ask b/c it could use a bump in sound to make it "louder". And if so, it gets uploaded to streaming. 

demetrios

jhulud said:

Is this new version hopefully out next week supposed to be remastered or anything? I ask b/c it could use a bump in sound to make it "louder". And if so, it gets uploaded to streaming. 

Audio has been recently mastered for vinyl and Lacquers were cut by Levi Seitz.

https://blackbeltmastering.com

The Mad Season album "Above" is being re-released for its 30th anniversary, with lacquers cut by Levi Seitz at Black Belt Mastering. The vinyl masters were cut by Levi Seitz, and the runout groove will feature "BLACKBELT-LEVI". Black Belt Mastering is a respected vinyl mastering facility known for its high-quality work.

Hopefully we get a new 24Bit Flac release.

demetrios

Easy Street Records

Due to circumstances beyond our control, Mad Season’s 30th Anniversary Edition of Above on Indie Exclusive Graphite eco-mix vinyl, has been delayed.
No release date has been shared yet.
Stay tuned for more updates!
Thanks for understanding

https://www.instagram.com/easystreetrecords/p/DIuXjnezEdX/

allstar340

demetrios said:

Easy Street Records

Due to circumstances beyond our control, Mad Season’s 30th Anniversary Edition of Above on Indie Exclusive Graphite eco-mix vinyl, has been delayed.
No release date has been shared yet.
Stay tuned for more updates!
Thanks for understanding

https://www.instagram.com/easystreetrecords/p/DIuXjnezEdX/

Saw this coming from a mile away with the lack of updates after the first delay …really hope we can get some clarity or an actual expected timeframe to receive this ASAP

kramer73

Lol

Loujoe

Foilstampgate

PB11041

For a group that pimps about vinyl a lot, they sure continuously fuck up their vinyl production. 

allstar340

PB11041 said:

For a group that pimps about vinyl a lot, they sure continuously fuck up their vinyl production. 

They used to care about getting the best quality audio and physical media to fans who cared to listen at reasonable prices. Now it’s about exploiting the subset of consumers who are “collectors” desperate to own every variant of every album ever pressed and still never listen to them. They’ll gladly charge you several months in advance for something they know they can’t deliver on time. Really sad and poorly managed especially given we never even got an email from the 10 club with an update, just a forum post lol.

PB11041

allstar340 said:

PB11041 said:

For a group that pimps about vinyl a lot, they sure continuously fuck up their vinyl production. 

They used to care about getting the best quality audio and physical media to fans who cared to listen at reasonable prices. Now it’s about exploiting the subset of consumers who are “collectors” desperate to own every variant of every album ever pressed and still never listen to them. They’ll gladly charge you several months in advance for something they know they can’t deliver on time. Really sad and poorly managed especially given we never even got an email from the 10 club with an update, just a forum post lol.

I really do not know about all that, I just know that every other release is a fiasco. Anything you do anywhere is a pre-order these days, next to nothing is released without waiting. Also this post is specifically about the indie store release.

Loujoe

allstar340 said:

PB11041 said:

For a group that pimps about vinyl a lot, they sure continuously fuck up their vinyl production. 

They used to care about getting the best quality audio and physical media to fans who cared to listen at reasonable prices. Now it’s about exploiting the subset of consumers who are “collectors” desperate to own every variant of every album ever pressed and still never listen to them. They’ll gladly charge you several months in advance for something they know they can’t deliver on time. Really sad and poorly managed especially given we never even got an email from the 10 club with an update, just a forum post lol.

Stone's fault

Lost In Ohio

allstar340 said:

PB11041 said:

For a group that pimps about vinyl a lot, they sure continuously fuck up their vinyl production. 

They used to care about getting the best quality audio and physical media to fans who cared to listen at reasonable prices. Now it’s about exploiting the subset of consumers who are “collectors” desperate to own every variant of every album ever pressed and still never listen to them. They’ll gladly charge you several months in advance for something they know they can’t deliver on time. Really sad and poorly managed especially given we never even got an email from the 10 club with an update, just a forum post lol.

They feed the collectors who feed into the frenzy. If people stopped lining up at 3am for Record Store Day, there'd be a lot more than 3000 copies of something around the entire world.

allstar340

Lost In Ohio said:

allstar340 said:

PB11041 said:

For a group that pimps about vinyl a lot, they sure continuously fuck up their vinyl production. 

They used to care about getting the best quality audio and physical media to fans who cared to listen at reasonable prices. Now it’s about exploiting the subset of consumers who are “collectors” desperate to own every variant of every album ever pressed and still never listen to them. They’ll gladly charge you several months in advance for something they know they can’t deliver on time. Really sad and poorly managed especially given we never even got an email from the 10 club with an update, just a forum post lol.

They feed the collectors who feed into the frenzy. If people stopped lining up at 3am for Record Store Day, there'd be a lot more than 3000 copies of something around the entire world.

My point is they don’t HAVE to play this game. They choose to because they are greedy. And the least they could do if they’re going to be this greedy (6 variants, extremely limited variants available via online preorder not even supporting local record stores, and not a RSD related release) is be fair and clearly state to people preordering an item that they have no clue when it’s actually going to be ready. 

PB11041

allstar340 said:

Lost In Ohio said:

allstar340 said:

PB11041 said:

For a group that pimps about vinyl a lot, they sure continuously fuck up their vinyl production. 

They used to care about getting the best quality audio and physical media to fans who cared to listen at reasonable prices. Now it’s about exploiting the subset of consumers who are “collectors” desperate to own every variant of every album ever pressed and still never listen to them. They’ll gladly charge you several months in advance for something they know they can’t deliver on time. Really sad and poorly managed especially given we never even got an email from the 10 club with an update, just a forum post lol.

They feed the collectors who feed into the frenzy. If people stopped lining up at 3am for Record Store Day, there'd be a lot more than 3000 copies of something around the entire world.

My point is they don’t HAVE to play this game. They choose to because they are greedy. And the least they could do if they’re going to be this greedy (6 variants, extremely limited variants available via online preorder not even supporting local record stores, and not a RSD related release) is be fair and clearly state to people preordering an item that they have no clue when it’s actually going to be ready. 

How is this greed? When all is said and done there are maybe 7,500 copies of this being reissued. At $40 a pop that comes to $300K gross, then you have to take out the fees that the engineer cutting the laqcuers gets, the distribution across surviving band members and the departed's estates, distributors, stores etc.  This is not exactly a financial avalanche.  These things are always a labor of love with minimal financial upside. If the first round of the reissue sells well they can in theory due a regular release.

While the variant game can be a bit much, it is on fans if they obsess about getting all the variants. Independent stores all had an option to partake in a variant.

I get delays are frustrating and frankly my point was it is comical because it keeps happening in this bands circle like clockwork, but in terms of the small runs, pre-orders, that is the reality of modern physical media.  Artists and especially labels that assist those artists have no interest in sitting on stock endlessly.