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Billy Strings references Pearl Jam when talking to fans about ticket prices

SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 1,091
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Speaking on Ticket Fee's and people reselling tickets for $700+:

"If Pearl Jam can't do it, I sure can't. My dick's not bigger than Pearl Jam's..."

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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,837
    Christ imagine trying to explain microeconomics to a jam band audience. A fate worse than death.
  • tusevuntusevun Posts: 242
    pjl44 said:
    Christ imagine trying to explain microeconomics to a jam band audience. A fate worse than death.
    I would bet they would understand better than most understand lottery odds. 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,837
    tusevun said:
    pjl44 said:
    Christ imagine trying to explain microeconomics to a jam band audience. A fate worse than death.
    I would bet they would understand better than most understand lottery odds. 
    If there's a common denominator it's willful ignorance due to entitlement 
  • smile6680smile6680 Posts: 412
    SandyRavage said:
    Speaking on Ticket Fee's and people reselling tickets for $700+:

    "If Pearl Jam can't do it, I sure can't. My dick's not bigger than Pearl Jam's..."

    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/14x48GMCA4/
    What did he say his ticket prices were? I didn't get the audio. 
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,837
    smile6680 said:
    SandyRavage said:
    Speaking on Ticket Fee's and people reselling tickets for $700+:

    "If Pearl Jam can't do it, I sure can't. My dick's not bigger than Pearl Jam's..."

    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/14x48GMCA4/
    What did he say his ticket prices were? I didn't get the audio. 
    $39.50-79.50 before fees
  • JD87070JD87070 Grand Blanc, MI Posts: 281
    smile6680 said:
    SandyRavage said:
    Speaking on Ticket Fee's and people reselling tickets for $700+:

    "If Pearl Jam can't do it, I sure can't. My dick's not bigger than Pearl Jam's..."

    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/14x48GMCA4/
    What did he say his ticket prices were? I didn't get the audio. 
    But there were some listed on Stubhub etc for $700ish yesterday, before any tickets even went on sale (presales started today). So that was primarily what he was talking about in his post.
  • KN219077KN219077 Montana Posts: 1,157
    tusevun said:
    pjl44 said:
    Christ imagine trying to explain microeconomics to a jam band audience. A fate worse than death.
    I would bet they would understand better than most understand lottery odds. 
    If you used raw milk, 1/8’s, and the tensile strength of Jute as a reference point they’d understand just fine. 😆 

    that being said, I do love some jam bands.
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,606
    edited January 9
    https://x.com/ryan_meader11/status/1877155102806487231?s=46&t=i724zisoNf2KamA84XF-Iw

    The actual comment from Billy Strings from X

    Edit:  see it was posted above
    Post edited by pjhawks on
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,587
    edited January 9
    How does he not know what speculative tickets are at this point? Or at the very least someone that’s in his group should be able to answer that for him.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,901
    He's  doing 3 nights here in Denver at the Ball Arena. I just took this screenshot of what is currently available for the Sunday show.
    Anyone paying more than face is an idiot.


  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,837
    PJNB said:
    How does he not know what speculative tickets are at this point? Or at the very least someone that’s in his group should be able to answer that for him.
    I appreciate that he cares but I'd take it a step back and ask why people need an on-camera primer on ticket markets from an artist 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,267
    pjl44 said:
    PJNB said:
    How does he not know what speculative tickets are at this point? Or at the very least someone that’s in his group should be able to answer that for him.
    I appreciate that he cares but I'd take it a step back and ask why people need an on-camera primer on ticket markets from an artist 
    Because people are idiots! Still cheaper than the mighty PJ and he just did a three night stand in NO 87 songs no one repeat! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,060
    edited January 9
    josevolution said:
    pjl44 said:
    PJNB said:
    How does he not know what speculative tickets are at this point? Or at the very least someone that’s in his group should be able to answer that for him.
    I appreciate that he cares but I'd take it a step back and ask why people need an on-camera primer on ticket markets from an artist 
    Because people are idiots! Still cheaper than the mighty PJ and he just did a three night stand in NO 87 songs no one repeat! 
    He's not hit the cruise control phase of his career yet.   87 songs with no repeats really trusts the audience.  I don't think PJ has that much trust in their audience at this point.  They can't lose the audience this late in their career.  

    Now, I'm ignorant on bluegrass, but if it is anything like the Grateful Dead, those 87 songs probably sound very similar to each other (i.e., 1 minute of sing and 6 minutes of jamming) and fans aren't chasing hooks.  I've got a few friends that like Billy Strings.  I'll ask them.  
    Post edited by bootlegger10 on
  • runstaplesrunstaples WY/NC Posts: 700
    I might try to go to a show in Cary, I like his stuff and appreciate that he's a PJ fan. He did a good cover of "In Hiding"
    Appeared to be an animal, yet so polite.
  • KN219077KN219077 Montana Posts: 1,157
    bootlegger10 said:
    josevolution said:
    pjl44 said:
    PJNB said:
    How does he not know what speculative tickets are at this point? Or at the very least someone that’s in his group should be able to answer that for him.
    I appreciate that he cares but I'd take it a step back and ask why people need an on-camera primer on ticket markets from an artist 
    Because people are idiots! Still cheaper than the mighty PJ and he just did a three night stand in NO 87 songs no one repeat! 
    He's not hit the cruise control phase of his career yet.   87 songs with no repeats really trusts the audience.  I don't think PJ has that much trust in their audience at this point.  They can't lose the audience this late in their career.  

    Now, I'm ignorant on bluegrass, but if it is anything like the Grateful Dead, those 87 songs probably sound very similar to each other (i.e., 1 minute of sing and 6 minutes of jamming) and fans aren't chasing hooks.  I've got a few friends that like Billy Strings.  I'll ask them.  
     I’d say he’s more song driven than jam driven in the typical sense of jam bands
  • SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 1,091
    bootlegger10 said:
    josevolution said:
    pjl44 said:
    PJNB said:
    How does he not know what speculative tickets are at this point? Or at the very least someone that’s in his group should be able to answer that for him.
    I appreciate that he cares but I'd take it a step back and ask why people need an on-camera primer on ticket markets from an artist 
    Because people are idiots! Still cheaper than the mighty PJ and he just did a three night stand in NO 87 songs no one repeat! 
    He's not hit the cruise control phase of his career yet.   87 songs with no repeats really trusts the audience.  I don't think PJ has that much trust in their audience at this point.  They can't lose the audience this late in their career.  

    Now, I'm ignorant on bluegrass, but if it is anything like the Grateful Dead, those 87 songs probably sound very similar to each other (i.e., 1 minute of sing and 6 minutes of jamming) and fans aren't chasing hooks.  I've got a few friends that like Billy Strings.  I'll ask them.  
    I was at all 3 shows. 7 different sets of music, no repeats. I'd say he only jammed on 30 percent of the songs he played over the 3 nights. Some of the jams even included another song that he would eventually reprise after jamming. Half were original pieces of music he's written and the other half were covers. He even did a cover of Elderly Woman, Nutshell, and No Rain. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zqW5r62nik

    Bentleyspop said:
    He's  doing 3 nights here in Denver at the Ball Arena. I just took this screenshot of what is currently available for the Sunday show.
    Anyone paying more than face is an idiot.


    The problem with these Colorado shows is one of them is a 360 show, something Billy has never done before. He played 2 nights in the spring at Fiddlers Green last year and both sold out at 18k capacity. His team took that and ran with it and thought they could do 3 nights at the Ball in the winter. Now, you have more and more people waiting to get a deal on those tickets, and the team has thought about doing away with the 360 and just trying to sell as many tickets as possible in a normal configuration. 
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,341
    I hear nothing but good things about Billy Strings. Not sure he is an arena draw at this point, but good for him for keeping prices under $100 because he does sell out theaters and could probably charge more.
  • SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 1,091
    Get_Right said:
    I hear nothing but good things about Billy Strings. Not sure he is an arena draw at this point, but good for him for keeping prices under $100 because he does sell out theaters and could probably charge more.
    He's been slowly making his way to Arena status since his massive 2022-2023 tour. He's sold out both Fiddlers Green in CO and Pine Knob in Michigan which are both 15K+ amps. His New Orleans NYE shows this year were the most packed I've seen them since he started in 2022. He's already sold out 6 nights in Asheville at the ExploreAshville.com Arena and he's room mates with PJ at the State Farm arena in Atlanta and Bridgestone Arena in Nashville already this year, although those shows haven't sold out. 
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,432
    I’ll probably make one of those three shows in Denver. Not my cup of tea but he’s extremely talented and it’s date night
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2
  • SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 1,091
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    I’ll probably make one of those three shows in Denver. Not my cup of tea but he’s extremely talented and it’s date night
    I think you will be throughly impressed. If you like the way PJ does there sets, its basically the same. Honestly, if you like MUSIC, Billy will find a way to pull you in. I've hit 13 shows in the last 2 and a half years and never once did I feel like my money has been taken from me. 
  • HailHailVitalogyHailHailVitalogy Posts: 5,432
    SandyRavage said:
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    I’ll probably make one of those three shows in Denver. Not my cup of tea but he’s extremely talented and it’s date night
    I think you will be throughly impressed. If you like the way PJ does there sets, its basically the same. Honestly, if you like MUSIC, Billy will find a way to pull you in. I've hit 13 shows in the last 2 and a half years and never once did I feel like my money has been taken from me. 
    Sold. 
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2
  • SandyRavageSandyRavage Posts: 1,091
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    SandyRavage said:
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    I’ll probably make one of those three shows in Denver. Not my cup of tea but he’s extremely talented and it’s date night
    I think you will be throughly impressed. If you like the way PJ does there sets, its basically the same. Honestly, if you like MUSIC, Billy will find a way to pull you in. I've hit 13 shows in the last 2 and a half years and never once did I feel like my money has been taken from me. 
    Sold. 
    Give a listen to his "Live: Vol 1" album before the show to see what he's capable of jam wise. I'd also give a play through to his 3rd album "Renewal" or his 4th album and latest effort "Highway Prayers" if you want to hear how concise and beautiful his actual songwriting is. Both albums are super mature for a young song writer and remind me of No Code/Yield era PJ in terms of quality throughout those records. 

    Every show is different though, so don't expect a "jam band" walking in.... they could do anything! 
  • jjflashjjflash Posts: 4,986
    SandyRavage said:
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    SandyRavage said:
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    I’ll probably make one of those three shows in Denver. Not my cup of tea but he’s extremely talented and it’s date night
    I think you will be throughly impressed. If you like the way PJ does there sets, its basically the same. Honestly, if you like MUSIC, Billy will find a way to pull you in. I've hit 13 shows in the last 2 and a half years and never once did I feel like my money has been taken from me. 
    Sold. 
    Give a listen to his "Live: Vol 1" album before the show to see what he's capable of jam wise. I'd also give a play through to his 3rd album "Renewal" or his 4th album and latest effort "Highway Prayers" if you want to hear how concise and beautiful his actual songwriting is. Both albums are super mature for a young song writer and remind me of No Code/Yield era PJ in terms of quality throughout those records. 

    Every show is different though, so don't expect a "jam band" walking in.... they could do anything! 
    Well said @SandyRavage For those on the fence, definitely give Billy a spin. His latest album, Highway Prayers, is a great entry point and, IMO, his best album. His band is aces and they put on a helluva live show.
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,834
    tusevun said:
    pjl44 said:
    Christ imagine trying to explain microeconomics to a jam band audience. A fate worse than death.
    I would bet they would understand better than most understand lottery odds. 
    They definitely understand the concept of priority better than us.
  • smile6680smile6680 Posts: 412
    pjl44 said:
    smile6680 said:
    SandyRavage said:
    Speaking on Ticket Fee's and people reselling tickets for $700+:

    "If Pearl Jam can't do it, I sure can't. My dick's not bigger than Pearl Jam's..."

    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/14x48GMCA4/
    What did he say his ticket prices were? I didn't get the audio. 
    $39.50-79.50 before fees
    Thanks for the reply!
  • onemorshowonemorshow Posts: 488



    Can’t wait to see him again in Asheville,NC in Feb.2025.
  • reedrothchildreedrothchild Posts: 588
    Billy is so good.  First show I saw he did a wonderful cover of In Hiding. He’s definitely the best value arena show these days.
    "What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."
  • CobCob Posts: 858
    bootlegger10 said:
    josevolution said:
    pjl44 said:
    PJNB said:
    How does he not know what speculative tickets are at this point? Or at the very least someone that’s in his group should be able to answer that for him.
    I appreciate that he cares but I'd take it a step back and ask why people need an on-camera primer on ticket markets from an artist 
    Because people are idiots! Still cheaper than the mighty PJ and he just did a three night stand in NO 87 songs no one repeat! 
    He's not hit the cruise control phase of his career yet.   87 songs with no repeats really trusts the audience.  I don't think PJ has that much trust in their audience at this point.  They can't lose the audience this late in their career.  

    Now, I'm ignorant on bluegrass, but if it is anything like the Grateful Dead, those 87 songs probably sound very similar to each other (i.e., 1 minute of sing and 6 minutes of jamming) and fans aren't chasing hooks.  I've got a few friends that like Billy Strings.  I'll ask them.  

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  • reedrothchildreedrothchild Posts: 588
    Cob said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    josevolution said:
    pjl44 said:
    PJNB said:
    How does he not know what speculative tickets are at this point? Or at the very least someone that’s in his group should be able to answer that for him.
    I appreciate that he cares but I'd take it a step back and ask why people need an on-camera primer on ticket markets from an artist 
    Because people are idiots! Still cheaper than the mighty PJ and he just did a three night stand in NO 87 songs no one repeat! 
    He's not hit the cruise control phase of his career yet.   87 songs with no repeats really trusts the audience.  I don't think PJ has that much trust in their audience at this point.  They can't lose the audience this late in their career.  

    Now, I'm ignorant on bluegrass, but if it is anything like the Grateful Dead, those 87 songs probably sound very similar to each other (i.e., 1 minute of sing and 6 minutes of jamming) and fans aren't chasing hooks.  I've got a few friends that like Billy Strings.  I'll ask them.  

    Tell me you no nothing abouth Grateful Dead, without telling me you know nothing about Grateful Dead......

    Seriously.  Billy is catering to a much different audience than the PJ crowd. People would complain if there ANY repeats at all during a run in a city.
    "What can you expect when you're on top? You know? It's like Napoleon. When he was the king, you know, people were just constantly trying to conquer him, you know, in the Roman Empire. So, it's history repeating itself all over again."
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,341
    PJ does have that trust in their audience, if they play, people come. I think most fans would love a three night stand with no repeats. I would. I am sure Ed would space the songs out so even the casual fan would be happy.  And if we want to talk about the Grateful Dead, then let's start a new thread in other music. I think Billy just appreciates and respects what two great American bands have achieved and the way they did it. He writes original music, and from what I have heard, plays great shows for under $100.  I will have to check him out the next time he comes to the Capitol theater.
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