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  • jsilsby
    jsilsby Posts: 45
    edited January 14
    OCCAM’S RAZOR

    Conspiracy theories aside, it’s really just TM provides a paid for API that lets scalpers automatically snatch seats at face value.  You are really face with 2 choices, wait for everything to get dumped back at face value the day of the show… or incorporate as TClubResale, buy a partner API license and bot away.

    I think the only thing that would move the needle is if the venues banded together and figured out how to refuse hacked barcode links - but again show me anyone in this loop with incentive to do so.
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  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    jsilsby said:
    OCCAM’S RAZOR

    Conspiracy theories aside, it’s really just TM provides a paid for API that lets scalpers automatically snatch seats at face value.  You are really face with 2 choices, wait for everything to get dumped back at face value the day of the show… or incorporate as TClubResale, buy a partner API license and bot away.

    I think the only thing that would move the needle is if the venues banded together and figured out how to refuse hacked barcode links - but again show me anyone in this loop with incentive to do so.
    I wonder if we should set that up next time. There is a free API tier that allows 5000 requests a day (5 per second limit). I can't find the cost of the partner tier. If we get 50-100 people it might be the cost of a T-shirt.

  • EH14457
    EH14457 Orlando, FL Posts: 412
    KJ228171 said:
    jsilsby said:
    OCCAM’S RAZOR

    Conspiracy theories aside, it’s really just TM provides a paid for API that lets scalpers automatically snatch seats at face value.  You are really face with 2 choices, wait for everything to get dumped back at face value the day of the show… or incorporate as TClubResale, buy a partner API license and bot away.

    I think the only thing that would move the needle is if the venues banded together and figured out how to refuse hacked barcode links - but again show me anyone in this loop with incentive to do so.
    I wonder if we should set that up next time. There is a free API tier that allows 5000 requests a day (5 per second limit). I can't find the cost of the partner tier. If we get 50-100 people it might be the cost of a T-shirt.

    It’s less about cost and more about biz dev / vetting. The Partner API is intended for actual legitimate business partners: sports franchises, venues, and other entities that may have a business purpose for pulling tickets on behalf of clients. 

    Is it possible that some partner is violating their agreement and pulling valuable concert tickets on the side? Maybe. I don’t know if API keys grant restricted access to the API client.  Is it possible that TM (or some element within it) granted Partner API access to an entity that shouldn’t have one? Also maybe. But regardless, I’m fairly certain that nobody here is going to be getting access anytime soon for any amount of money. Sure would be nice though. 🙂

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  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    EH14457 said:
    KJ228171 said:
    jsilsby said:
    OCCAM’S RAZOR

    Conspiracy theories aside, it’s really just TM provides a paid for API that lets scalpers automatically snatch seats at face value.  You are really face with 2 choices, wait for everything to get dumped back at face value the day of the show… or incorporate as TClubResale, buy a partner API license and bot away.

    I think the only thing that would move the needle is if the venues banded together and figured out how to refuse hacked barcode links - but again show me anyone in this loop with incentive to do so.
    I wonder if we should set that up next time. There is a free API tier that allows 5000 requests a day (5 per second limit). I can't find the cost of the partner tier. If we get 50-100 people it might be the cost of a T-shirt.

    It’s less about cost and more about biz dev / vetting. The Partner API is intended for actual legitimate business partners: sports franchises, venues, and other entities that may have a business purpose for pulling tickets on behalf of clients. 

    Is it possible that some partner is violating their agreement and pulling valuable concert tickets on the side? Maybe. I don’t know if API keys grant restricted access to the API client.  Is it possible that TM (or some element within it) granted Partner API access to an entity that shouldn’t have one? Also maybe. But regardless, I’m fairly certain that nobody here is going to be getting access anytime soon for any amount of money. Sure would be nice though. 🙂
    Looks like you are right. Signed up for the hell of it for the Discovery API. Poking around about the Partner API and found:

    "Partner API

    The Ticketmaster Partner API, unlike the Discovery API, is not an open API. It is restricted to companies with whom Ticketmaster has existing, official distribution relationships.

    The Ticketmaster Partner API lets clients reserve, purchase, and retrieve ticket and event information."

    Strangely enough I'm in a business that could have a valid use case for this thing.




  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    I hate all of this 🙃
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • runstaples
    runstaples WY/NC Posts: 1,064
    Many thanks to @darwinstheory , we pulled off a successful drop last night for Raleigh N1 using the link method!
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  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,722
    runstaples said:
    Many thanks to @darwinstheory , we pulled off a successful drop last night for Raleigh N1 using the link method!
    Love to hear it! Good to know the links are working! 😀
  • Sugarloafer04
    Sugarloafer04 Colorado // NYC Posts: 782
    runstaples said:
    Many thanks to @darwinstheory , we pulled off a successful drop last night for Raleigh N1 using the link method!
    glad to hear it! 
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    2018: Fenway 1
    2021: Sea.Hear.Now
    2022: San Diego, MSG, Camden 
    2023: Ft. Worth 1, Ft. Worth 2, Austin 1, Austin 2
    2024: Las Vegas 1, Las Vegas 2, Wrigley 1, Wrigley 2, MSG 1, MSG 2, Philly 2, Fenway 1, Fenway 2
    2025: Florida 1, Florida 2, Nashville 1, Nashville 2, Raleigh 1, Raleigh 2, Pittsburgh 1, Pittsburgh 2
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    Woot!
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,345
    runstaples said:
    Many thanks to @darwinstheory , we pulled off a successful drop last night for Raleigh N1 using the link method!
    🤘
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  • PhartN
    PhartN MD Posts: 507
    runstaples said:
    Many thanks to @darwinstheory , we pulled off a successful drop last night for Raleigh N1 using the link method!
    Awesome!
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    2006: Washington, D.C.
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    2010: Bristow, VA
    2013: Baltimore, MD
    2016: Hampton, VA
    2020: Baltimore, MD  Cancelled
    2023: Noblesville, IN Cancelled/Rescheduled 
    2024: Seattle, WA N1 & N2 - Indianapolis, IN- Baltimore, MD
    2025: Hollywood, FL N2 - Pittsburgh, PA N1 & N2
  • deb1211
    deb1211 Posts: 2,026
    runstaples said:
    Many thanks to @darwinstheory , we pulled off a successful drop last night for Raleigh N1 using the link method!
    Sweet!
  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,012
    Good job Chris, now does someone want to be my third attempt for Pitt 2? 😬
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  • RS151862
    RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,725
    If anyone wants to direct link a local Pittsburgh night 1 tickets I’m available 
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  • a5pj
    a5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,975
    RS151862 said:
    If anyone wants to direct link a local Pittsburgh night 1 tickets I’m available 
    Same here
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,810
    a5pj said:
    RS151862 said:
    If anyone wants to direct link a local Pittsburgh night 1 tickets I’m available 
    Same here
    Me as well.  Even if just 1
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    Good job Chris, now does someone want to be my third attempt for Pitt 2? 😬
    And I need pitt 1!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • BettrMan21
    BettrMan21 Chattanooga,Tn Posts: 291
    Anyone looking to drop 2 for Nashville either night, please DM me. 
  • given2flym
    given2flym Posts: 125
    Had a pair of Pitt 2 lined up with a directly shared link. Got the link immediately and refreshed constantly. Seemed to be taking longer than usual. Never got to the carting/check out phase. Just changed to “these are no longer available”.  My friend and I both were trying and neither saw the buy screen. We’ve had successful links before. So this is new. 
  • ally12
    ally12 Ottawa, ON, CAN Posts: 410
    given2flym said:
    Had a pair of Pitt 2 lined up with a directly shared link. Got the link immediately and refreshed constantly. Seemed to be taking longer than usual. Never got to the carting/check out phase. Just changed to “these are no longer available”.  My friend and I both were trying and neither saw the buy screen. We’ve had successful links before. So this is new. 
    It’s the API bot, it’s faster than us 
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