2025 Fan to Fan Exchange and ISO/FT/FS Thread

GlowGirl

HailHailVitalogy said:

RatherStarved said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

The whole wallet thing….using someone else’s TM account into your wallet….is that just Apple or Google too?

I don’t think it works with either of them.  

Can someone confirm this please? All wallets are fucked? 😂 

Not fully sure about Google, but Apple is. It won't let you put someone else's tickets in your wallet.

Chrrie

HailHailVitalogy said:

RatherStarved said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

The whole wallet thing….using someone else’s TM account into your wallet….is that just Apple or Google too?

I don’t think it works with either of them.  

Can someone confirm this please? All wallets are fucked? 😂 

The wallet tickets, at least on iPhone, will only activate for the Ticketmaster address that is linked to your apple wallet. That link happens the first time you add a Ticketmaster ticket to your wallet and it will permanently associate tickets to that. So in the future if you log into someone else’s Ticketmaster account and try to add their tickets, it won’t ever activate them.

My partner never added any of his own tickets to his apple wallet but then in Las Vegas last year added someone else’s tickets from a trade. Now he can’t activate his own tickets that he won in the lottery or bought from fan to fan for any artist, not just PJ. Can only use the TM app to scan in because his wallet is linked to that other guy’s account. 

Someone posted last year somewhere that they were able to get ahold of the right person at Ticketmaster to reset that link but it took a long time and they made it seem like they made a huge exception for the guy. 

HailHailVitalogy

Yeah, I’ve experienced this myself on my iPhone…just wondering about Google.

GlowGirl

Chrrie said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

RatherStarved said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

The whole wallet thing….using someone else’s TM account into your wallet….is that just Apple or Google too?

I don’t think it works with either of them.  

Can someone confirm this please? All wallets are fucked? 😂 

The wallet tickets, at least on iPhone, will only activate for the Ticketmaster address that is linked to your apple wallet. That link happens the first time you add a Ticketmaster ticket to your wallet and it will permanently associate tickets to that. So in the future if you log into someone else’s Ticketmaster account and try to add their tickets, it won’t ever activate them.

My partner never added any of his own tickets to his apple wallet but then in Las Vegas last year added someone else’s tickets from a trade. Now he can’t activate his own tickets that he won in the lottery or bought from fan to fan for any artist, not just PJ. Can only use the TM app to scan in because his wallet is linked to that other guy’s account. 

Someone posted last year somewhere that they were able to get ahold of the right person at Ticketmaster to reset that link but it took a long time and they made it seem like they made a huge exception for the guy. 

Was the other guy still able to add his tickets to his wallet, or was his account now only associated with M's wallet?

Chrrie

GlowGirl said:

Chrrie said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

RatherStarved said:

HailHailVitalogy said:

The whole wallet thing….using someone else’s TM account into your wallet….is that just Apple or Google too?

I don’t think it works with either of them.  

Can someone confirm this please? All wallets are fucked? 😂 

The wallet tickets, at least on iPhone, will only activate for the Ticketmaster address that is linked to your apple wallet. That link happens the first time you add a Ticketmaster ticket to your wallet and it will permanently associate tickets to that. So in the future if you log into someone else’s Ticketmaster account and try to add their tickets, it won’t ever activate them.

My partner never added any of his own tickets to his apple wallet but then in Las Vegas last year added someone else’s tickets from a trade. Now he can’t activate his own tickets that he won in the lottery or bought from fan to fan for any artist, not just PJ. Can only use the TM app to scan in because his wallet is linked to that other guy’s account. 

Someone posted last year somewhere that they were able to get ahold of the right person at Ticketmaster to reset that link but it took a long time and they made it seem like they made a huge exception for the guy. 

Was the other guy still able to add his tickets to his wallet, or was his account now only associated with M's wallet?

No the other guy can’t activate his tickets now either, they can only activate each others haha 

Get_Right

ally12 said:

Get_Right said:

Go back to the way is was and make all 10C tickets non-transferable and end this nonsense. It would probably put more tickets in the hands of locals instead of travelers that buy on spec.

Huh? They are non transferable. People are just making trades and swapping login info. If they are selling they use cash apps to transfer funds and swapping login info. Also a lot of people have become friends over the years and they are just doing favours.

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F2F is transferable no?

eddievedderspants

Get_Right said:

ally12 said:

Get_Right said:

Go back to the way is was and make all 10C tickets non-transferable and end this nonsense. It would probably put more tickets in the hands of locals instead of travelers that buy on spec.

Huh? They are non transferable. People are just making trades and swapping login info. If they are selling they use cash apps to transfer funds and swapping login info. Also a lot of people have become friends over the years and they are just doing favours.

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F2F is transferable no?

Hard no.  F2F can only be sold on TM site and you cannot designate them for a specific person (that would be a "transfer").  This is the cause of much frustration because as soon as you release them for sale, its a free-for-fall race to see who gets to cart and purchase them first.  Bots and other folks who are monitoring constantly are ready to pounce.

Get_Right

eddievedderspants said:

Get_Right said:

ally12 said:

Get_Right said:

Go back to the way is was and make all 10C tickets non-transferable and end this nonsense. It would probably put more tickets in the hands of locals instead of travelers that buy on spec.

Huh? They are non transferable. People are just making trades and swapping login info. If they are selling they use cash apps to transfer funds and swapping login info. Also a lot of people have become friends over the years and they are just doing favours.

.

F2F is transferable no?

Hard no.  F2F can only be sold on TM site and you cannot designate them for a specific person (that would be a "transfer").  This is the cause of much frustration because as soon as you release them for sale, its a free-for-fall race to see who gets to cart and purchase them first.  Bots and other folks who are monitoring constantly are ready to pounce.

But they are 10C tickets on F2F correct?

Reissy

Get_Right said:

eddievedderspants said:

Get_Right said:

ally12 said:

Get_Right said:

Go back to the way is was and make all 10C tickets non-transferable and end this nonsense. It would probably put more tickets in the hands of locals instead of travelers that buy on spec.

Huh? They are non transferable. People are just making trades and swapping login info. If they are selling they use cash apps to transfer funds and swapping login info. Also a lot of people have become friends over the years and they are just doing favours.

.

F2F is transferable no?

Hard no.  F2F can only be sold on TM site and you cannot designate them for a specific person (that would be a "transfer").  This is the cause of much frustration because as soon as you release them for sale, its a free-for-fall race to see who gets to cart and purchase them first.  Bots and other folks who are monitoring constantly are ready to pounce.

But they are 10C tickets correct?

Not exclusively. Any tickets purchased on TM are being resold on F2F. 10C, Artist Presale, PJ Premium...

Get_Right

Reissy said:

Get_Right said:

eddievedderspants said:

Get_Right said:

ally12 said:

Get_Right said:

Go back to the way is was and make all 10C tickets non-transferable and end this nonsense. It would probably put more tickets in the hands of locals instead of travelers that buy on spec.

Huh? They are non transferable. People are just making trades and swapping login info. If they are selling they use cash apps to transfer funds and swapping login info. Also a lot of people have become friends over the years and they are just doing favours.

.

F2F is transferable no?

Hard no.  F2F can only be sold on TM site and you cannot designate them for a specific person (that would be a "transfer").  This is the cause of much frustration because as soon as you release them for sale, its a free-for-fall race to see who gets to cart and purchase them first.  Bots and other folks who are monitoring constantly are ready to pounce.

But they are 10C tickets correct?

Not exclusively. Any tickets purchased on TM are being resold on F2F. 10C, Artist Presale, PJ Premium...

I understand the difference between trying to transfer your 10C tickets without using TM. But they should not allow F2F for 10C tickets, I equate that as a "transfer" even though it is not the same as trying to give your 10C tickets to another fan without going through F2F.  And I understand the TM process very well. It never works out well for the true fan. Transfers of 10C tickets should not be allowed, no matter the method IMHO. 

ally12

Get_Right said:

Reissy said:

Get_Right said:

eddievedderspants said:

Get_Right said:

ally12 said:

Get_Right said:

Go back to the way is was and make all 10C tickets non-transferable and end this nonsense. It would probably put more tickets in the hands of locals instead of travelers that buy on spec.

Huh? They are non transferable. People are just making trades and swapping login info. If they are selling they use cash apps to transfer funds and swapping login info. Also a lot of people have become friends over the years and they are just doing favours.

.

F2F is transferable no?

Hard no.  F2F can only be sold on TM site and you cannot designate them for a specific person (that would be a "transfer").  This is the cause of much frustration because as soon as you release them for sale, its a free-for-fall race to see who gets to cart and purchase them first.  Bots and other folks who are monitoring constantly are ready to pounce.

But they are 10C tickets correct?

Not exclusively. Any tickets purchased on TM are being resold on F2F. 10C, Artist Presale, PJ Premium...

I understand the difference between trying to transfer your 10C tickets without using TM. But they should not allow F2F for 10C tickets, I equate that as a "transfer" even though it is not the same as trying to give your 10C tickets to another fan without going through F2F.  And I understand the TM process very well. It never works out well for the true fan. Transfers of 10C tickets should not be allowed, no matter the method IMHO. 

IMO, 10C tickets should become transferable but in a controlled environment. Have a transfer/trade only marketplace hosted here on the forums. Also I think 10c tickets should have a unique transfer code included with the tickets similar to their bootleg code.  

For example, you and I want to make a trade. You have 2 tickets to Pitt 1 and have I have 2 tickets to Pitt 2. We can trade on the marketplace and we use the unique transfer code on the marketplace to complete the transfer. Then we pick up our new tickets at the will call.

I also think a sell section should be added to the marketplace. If you can’t make a trade due to not being able to make any other show on the tour you can list your tickets so that way you can get a refund. The new 10c member owner of tickets will go to will call to pick up their tickets.

so essentially have an exclusive 10C tickets F2F.

It benefits everyone, the band will see more traffic on their forums, tickets are going to their core fanbase and it will eliminate the garbage of monitoring all the unofficial social media groups/exchanges for tickets

its all a dream and doubt it would happen.

Get_Right

Sounds good on paper but you are asking the band/management to manage thousands of ticket exchanges or sales. And manage will call. Web traffic has a minimal financial impact relative to their overall revenue. There is simply no real business case other than it would make the fans happy and I doubt that is worth what it would cost to execute. The reality is that they collect money when 10C tickets are sold through the lottery and that is the end of their involvement unless there is an issue with ticketing.

Many people buy 10C tickets with the hope they can make a show until they see flights are $600 and a hotel room is $250 a night and then the scramble to cover their losses. Or they get tickets for N1 when they really want N2. Especially now with prices so high, do not buy 10C tickets unless you know you can go. If there is a life event that prevents you from going, my hope would be that $400 concert tickets are the least of your worries.

And I am not surprised F2F is not really working. It is TM up to the same old tricks. It would not surprise me if the bots are deployed by TM partners and that is why they end up on the secondary market. TM does not seem to care so perhaps there is a benefit.   

That is just my opinion.

KJ228171

Get_Right said:

Sounds good on paper but you are asking the band/management to manage thousands of ticket exchanges or sales. And manage will call. Web traffic has a minimal financial impact relative to their overall revenue. There is simply no real business case other than it would make the fans happy and I doubt that is worth what it would cost to execute. The reality is that they collect money when 10C tickets are sold through the lottery and that is the end of their involvement unless there is an issue with ticketing.

Many people buy 10C tickets with the hope they can make a show until they see flights are $600 and a hotel room is $250 a night and then the scramble to cover their losses. Or they get tickets for N1 when they really want N2. Especially now with prices so high, do not buy 10C tickets unless you know you can go. If there is a life event that prevents you from going, my hope would be that $400 concert tickets are the least of your worries.

And I am not surprised F2F is not really working. It is TM up to the same old tricks. It would not surprise me if the bots are deployed by TM partners and that is why they end up on the secondary market. TM does not seem to care so perhaps there is a benefit.   

That is just my opinion.

I mentioned it in the thread that was closed. They could make 10C tickets use 2FA or issue a QR code to 10C members that’s required when using tickets. Will it stop scalping completely? Probably not. Will it make it a big enough pain in the ass to deter most of it? Probably. I don’t care about the PJ premium or tickets sold during the general sale. Let the universe deal with that. 10C tickets should be for 10C members. I don’t think that’s a big ask.

ally12

Get_Right said:

Sounds good on paper but you are asking the band/management to manage thousands of ticket exchanges or sales. And manage will call. Web traffic has a minimal financial impact relative to their overall revenue. There is simply no real business case other than it would make the fans happy and I doubt that is worth what it would cost to execute. The reality is that they collect money when 10C tickets are sold through the lottery and that is the end of their involvement unless there is an issue with ticketing.

Many people buy 10C tickets with the hope they can make a show until they see flights are $600 and a hotel room is $250 a night and then the scramble to cover their losses. Or they get tickets for N1 when they really want N2. Especially now with prices so high, do not buy 10C tickets unless you know you can go. If there is a life event that prevents you from going, my hope would be that $400 concert tickets are the least of your worries.

And I am not surprised F2F is not really working. It is TM up to the same old tricks. It would not surprise me if the bots are deployed by TM partners and that is why they end up on the secondary market. TM does not seem to care so perhaps there is a benefit.   

That is just my opinion.

All valid points. Concerts have become a luxury..

RatherStarved

Anyone get those Nashville 1 116’s? I got U504.

Get_Right

KJ228171 said:

Get_Right said:

Sounds good on paper but you are asking the band/management to manage thousands of ticket exchanges or sales. And manage will call. Web traffic has a minimal financial impact relative to their overall revenue. There is simply no real business case other than it would make the fans happy and I doubt that is worth what it would cost to execute. The reality is that they collect money when 10C tickets are sold through the lottery and that is the end of their involvement unless there is an issue with ticketing.

Many people buy 10C tickets with the hope they can make a show until they see flights are $600 and a hotel room is $250 a night and then the scramble to cover their losses. Or they get tickets for N1 when they really want N2. Especially now with prices so high, do not buy 10C tickets unless you know you can go. If there is a life event that prevents you from going, my hope would be that $400 concert tickets are the least of your worries.

And I am not surprised F2F is not really working. It is TM up to the same old tricks. It would not surprise me if the bots are deployed by TM partners and that is why they end up on the secondary market. TM does not seem to care so perhaps there is a benefit.   

That is just my opinion.

I mentioned it in the thread that was closed. They could make 10C tickets use 2FA or issue a QR code to 10C members that’s required when using tickets. Will it stop scalping completely? Probably not. Will it make it a big enough pain in the ass to deter most of it? Probably. I don’t care about the PJ premium or tickets sold during the general sale. Let the universe deal with that. 10C tickets should be for 10C members. I don’t think that’s a big ask.

A last note, there are a ton of scalpers in the 10C. So they may or may not get into the hands of a real fan.

KJ228171

Get_Right said:

KJ228171 said:

Get_Right said:

Sounds good on paper but you are asking the band/management to manage thousands of ticket exchanges or sales. And manage will call. Web traffic has a minimal financial impact relative to their overall revenue. There is simply no real business case other than it would make the fans happy and I doubt that is worth what it would cost to execute. The reality is that they collect money when 10C tickets are sold through the lottery and that is the end of their involvement unless there is an issue with ticketing.

Many people buy 10C tickets with the hope they can make a show until they see flights are $600 and a hotel room is $250 a night and then the scramble to cover their losses. Or they get tickets for N1 when they really want N2. Especially now with prices so high, do not buy 10C tickets unless you know you can go. If there is a life event that prevents you from going, my hope would be that $400 concert tickets are the least of your worries.

And I am not surprised F2F is not really working. It is TM up to the same old tricks. It would not surprise me if the bots are deployed by TM partners and that is why they end up on the secondary market. TM does not seem to care so perhaps there is a benefit.   

That is just my opinion.

I mentioned it in the thread that was closed. They could make 10C tickets use 2FA or issue a QR code to 10C members that’s required when using tickets. Will it stop scalping completely? Probably not. Will it make it a big enough pain in the ass to deter most of it? Probably. I don’t care about the PJ premium or tickets sold during the general sale. Let the universe deal with that. 10C tickets should be for 10C members. I don’t think that’s a big ask.

A last note, there are a ton of scalpers in the 10C. So they may or may not get into the hands of a real fan.

Agreed that there are scalpers in 10c but the ticket recipient would have to be in 10c too. Basically my theoretical, will never be implemented system would require proof of 10c with a 2FA to use a 10c ticket. A Txt, a membership card, something. Sent us all into designate lines if you have too. If they hadn’t gotten rid of the app years ago it would be the perfect avenue. Never going to happen.

HailHailVitalogy

Make them transferable within 10 days of the show

Shaindli1

walkunafraid

Shaindli1 said:

This has been there for a while. Beware that if you try to buy them, TM will charge your credit card but not actually allow the purchase. Fortunately I've already been credited the amount back, but still super annoying.