BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map
So freaking annoying
Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing
As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
I just did for Pitts N1 section 103. I was researching that section on a different tab, when I went to TM to go buy them they were “gone” but I changed the filter to standard tickets and there it was but now it's $ 900+
Yep. I just watched this happen again with lower level tickets at Pitt N1
BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map
So freaking annoying
Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing
As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
I just did for Pitts N1 section 103. I was researching that section on a different tab, when I went to TM to go buy them they were “gone” but I changed the filter to standard tickets and there it was but now it's $ 900+
Yep. I just watched this happen again with lower level tickets at Pitt N1
Aside from Hollywood, I'm keeping an eye on ATL1. I've seen 2 good pairs of lower levels pop up as F2F. They're both gone now and not relisted as Premium (108 G and 110 G), so it's interesting that seems to just be happening with Pitt N1. Not cool.
BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map
So freaking annoying
Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing
As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
I just did for Pitts N1 section 103. I was researching that section on a different tab, when I went to TM to go buy them they were “gone” but I changed the filter to standard tickets and there it was but now it's $ 900+
Yep. I just watched this happen again with lower level tickets at Pitt N1
Are you sure it was the exact same seats and not just a premium pair already in that section. I have never seen TM change face value tickets to premiums. If they did that, people would never be able to sell their tickets.
BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map
So freaking annoying
Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing
As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
I just did for Pitts N1 section 103. I was researching that section on a different tab, when I went to TM to go buy them they were “gone” but I changed the filter to standard tickets and there it was but now it's $ 900+
Yep. I just watched this happen again with lower level tickets at Pitt N1
Take some screen shots
I find it hard to believe they are dumb enough to do that especially so fast after the fan to fan sale.
Not saying I don’t believe but would love to see some proof
I doubt this is happening, but does it really matter? I get that it's more evidence that TM is evil, but it's really no different than the tickets popping up on stubhub at a much higher price.
I doubt this is happening, but does it really matter? I get that it's more evidence that TM is evil, but it's really no different than the tickets popping up on stubhub at a much higher price.
Fair. It's the same monster either way. The bot/StubHub approach obfuscates the intent a bit. TM "listing" them as F2F, completing a transaction, and then relisting them as Premium would almost be more respectable. 🤷♂️
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BOTs are in play.. some 116s for Nash came up. and were gone so quick they never showed up on the map
So freaking annoying
Not even that! They are keeping them and changing them to premium pricing
As much as I've seen with F2F over multiple tours, I have not seen that happen yet. Did you definitely watch it happen with a specific pair?
I just did for Pitts N1 section 103. I was researching that section on a different tab, when I went to TM to go buy them they were “gone” but I changed the filter to standard tickets and there it was but now it's $ 900+
Yep. I just watched this happen again with lower level tickets at Pitt N1
Take some screen shots
I find it hard to believe they are dumb enough to do that especially so fast after the fan to fan sale.
Not saying I don’t believe but would love to see some proof
I wish I could show proof, could think that fast while trying to secure tickets.
Ehh, I just looked at Stubhub for tickets and they give you a notice that says “to gain entry to the event, you must be accompanied by the original buyer of the tickets.” Lol wut. How is that enforceable from a seller’s standpoint? And is stubhub facilitating that pre show meet up?
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I doubt this is happening, but does it really matter? I get that it's more evidence that TM is evil, but it's really no different than the tickets popping up on stubhub at a much higher price.
It’s no different. But that means that TM has to pay us for our seats before relisting them as premium. If I sell seats for face value and TM realists them for Premium then they won’t readily sell. But I guess theoretically TM could buy them back from me at face and resell as premium. I would hope that would not be the case though.
I also am not sure I agree that TM being the only marketplace is a good thing…
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Ehh, I just looked at Stubhub for tickets and they give you a notice that says “to gain entry to the event, you must be accompanied by the original buyer of the tickets.” Lol wut. How is that enforceable from a seller’s standpoint? And is stubhub facilitating that pre show meet up?
I think they are saying that so they can plausibly say they are not simply ignoring the fact that the tickets are nontransferable, and possibly to blame the buyer if something goes sideways, but my understanding from people who've bought from stubhub is that they received some type of link to the tickets and did not have to do a walk in.
It is different if they are auto buying back the tickets and we actually don’t have a chance vs the slim chance we have with the bots
I agree. If they are doing this than F2F is ultimately useless for buying tickets. I doubt they are doing this. It has only been open a few hours and not everyone even knows it’s open - so listing are likely to be low right now.
Well, there were a shitload of face value uppers for N1 still available, and some for N2. But they took them all down at 3:59p on Friday, and haven't put them back up yet. They have to go back up sometime.
Well, there were a shitload of face value uppers for N1 still available, and some for N2. But they took them all down at 3:59p on Friday, and haven't put them back up yet. They have to go back up sometime.
Thanks for the heads up. I was hoping tix for that night would be a bit easier to come by compared to other dates. Earlier I had a pair of F2F in my grasp but they were gone before I could complete the purchase.
Well, there were a shitload of face value uppers for N1 still available, and some for N2. But they took them all down at 3:59p on Friday, and haven't put them back up yet. They have to go back up sometime.
And If there are that many uppers - there will be a load of lowers too, Recall Vancouver shows last year... even Portland cratered at the end.. its all TM FOMO games.. What I want to see, is the Oasis shows, there is NO way all the US shows are totally sold out and TM has not opened the F2F .. games.
Anyone ever figure out a quick fix for the "Your Browsing Activity Has Been Paused" TM block? Getting it on both my laptop and phone on wifi and cellular. Seems to be at the account level.
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I find it hard to believe they are dumb enough to do that especially so fast after the fan to fan sale.
to see some proof
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Earlier I had a pair of F2F in my grasp but they were gone before I could complete the purchase.
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