So disappointed again… ever since they switched to Ticketmaster presales I have NEVER gotten tickets. I’ve been a member for 25 years at least. Smh. Soooo sad. I never post just read but I’m really bummed out about this. I put in for both Florida shows and both Pittsburgh shows. * ends sad rant* :(
I feel your pain. I have been a member for close to 30 years and was shut out of the Pittsburgh shows. I was so confident I would get tickets that I did not enter for a fan presale code. I have little faith when Live Nation/Ticket Master is handling anything.
I didn’t enter for the same reason.
Pittsburgh was a harder ticket than MSG this lottery. I have a hard time talking that up to just “demand”
How is that determined? Not asking to be an ass, just curious. Is it just because lots of people were shutout for Pittsburgh?
There certainly seems to be some weirdness with these draws over the years. I wish they would go back to priority but even then, people were getting shutout from their 1st priority while others were getting same show/seats with their 10th. I know it's a lottery and it's random, but that is a tough pill to swallow for some.
Just my own personal circles. I do not personally know a single person who won either Pittsburgh show. That has never happened before.
For MSG last year, you could request 10C tickets for both shows, but you were only allowed to win one show. Seems like they should do this for every city that has multiple shows. If you want the other show, go through Ticketmaster presale or Fan 2 Fan. You’d be giving tickets to more 10C members and seeing a lot less shutouts and frustration. I went 0-for-6 on these shows and seeing people win 5, 6, or more shows is just strange.
Maybe...or maybe just limit how many shows you can request so success pct goes up. I only requested two shows this time -- both the shows in my hometown of Raleigh. I got em both and I think that's fair. They haven't played here in 20 years and I've been 10C way longer than that.
Going into this I figured Hollywood would be a tough ticket but that most people would have very high hit rates on the other shows. I'm honestly pretty surprised at the demand. I wouldn't have thought to limit people like MSG for all but FL.
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Hope so...I'd like to know before the artist presale.
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Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low.
You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen.
It doesn't add up for sure. Will be curious to see seat selections. Maybe they didn't take any upper deck sections and actually took less in the lowers/floor? More platinum? It's very odd
Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low.
You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen.
Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low.
You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen.
This situation exactly mirrors mine. My wife and I missed out for Raleigh, both nights. We are both long standing members of 10c. Now I get the random nature of a lottery, but it definitely feels to me that if you entered using what Ticketmaster considers to be duplicate accounts (based on address or something) then you were disqualified.
How many people put in for Raleigh? How many won? It would not be that difficult to give us that info. Also give me a heads up if something was flagged on my account or my wife's that prevented us from getting tickets.
Tell us how the lotto works. Do they in fact do it show by show with GA being filled first like they did in the past and then RES or are they really picking a request number and giving everyone everything they want and the people that are on the backside of that number will end up with nothing.
They took priority away from us they took odds away from us they took GA only away from us and now we need to just put our faith its a fair system. Those things I just mentioned helped us prove the lotto was fairly done. Now we have nothing. Pretty frustrating to be honest.
They messed up priority bad in 2023. We were able to catch it as fans on this board and 10C made the change and redid the lotto which was a great thing to do. It was still messed up but at least they tried. Now we just take whatever they give us and people just say its a lotto what do you expect. I expect to win at least one RES for Raleigh out of 4 tries. There is no way the demand for that show is so great I would miss out on it that many times based of previous demand for these shows. I just dont believe it.
If I am wrong and the demand was there enough to have me miss all 4 shows then they have broken the lotto allowing people put in for shows that have no desire to even go to gambling on GA and just having fan to fan to throw the tickets back to. I dont expect a response from 10C on this but it does not take a rocket scientist to see this is a broken system for some fans.
Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low.
You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe it's' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen.
My group of friends went 0/10 on Pittsburgh and 2/10 for Raleigh..... in 2024, that same group that went 10/10 on Vegas, 7/10 for Baltimore and 4/10 for MSG.
Math ain't mathin'. It definitely seems that some accounts were just completely thrown out or not considered in the draw.
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Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low.
You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen.
This situation exactly mirrors mine. My wife and I missed out for Raleigh, both nights. We are both long standing members of 10c. Now I get the random nature of a lottery, but it definitely feels to me that if you entered using what Ticketmaster considers to be duplicate accounts (based on address or something) then you were disqualified.
I know of plenty of people that did that and were fine. Some winning 4 GA for Raleigh with 2 accounts.
It doesn't add up for sure. Will be curious to see seat selections. Maybe they didn't take any upper deck sections and actually took less in the lowers/floor? More platinum? It's very odd
They didn't have any 300 level for the lottery, just floor, 100, and 200 levels
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Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low.
You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen.
This situation exactly mirrors mine. My wife and I missed out for Raleigh, both nights. We are both long standing members of 10c. Now I get the random nature of a lottery, but it definitely feels to me that if you entered using what Ticketmaster considers to be duplicate accounts (based on address or something) then you were disqualified.
I do think this is possible
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II 2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low.
You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen.
This situation exactly mirrors mine. My wife and I missed out for Raleigh, both nights. We are both long standing members of 10c. Now I get the random nature of a lottery, but it definitely feels to me that if you entered using what Ticketmaster considers to be duplicate accounts (based on address or something) then you were disqualified.
I know of plenty of people that did that and were fine. Some winning 4 GA for Raleigh with 2 accounts.
I'm not for one second saying that TM have an infallible system for identifying "duplicate" accounts. In fact I'm saying the opposite. So just because some still managed to score tickets on a 2nd account doesn't mean others weren't disqualified.
I submitted my request on 12/5 at 1:15pm. FL 2, ATL and Raleigh. Hit all 5.
I submitted requests under my wife’s account, that I just signed up for on 12/2 with the rumors of an announcement, about 5 mins later. Just ATL and Raleigh. 0-4.
Both TM accounts use the same home address and Mastercard.
I did not have tix to Raleigh in 2016 (first kid was born that week) and was not in the initial wave of Raleigh tix.
I have sold 4-5 pairs of tix to different shows, including PJ this year and last on TM in recent years.
How many people put in for Raleigh? How many won? It would not be that difficult to give us that info. Also give me a heads up if something was flagged on my account or my wife's that prevented us from getting tickets.
Tell us how the lotto works. Do they in fact do it show by show with GA being filled first like they did in the past and then RES or are they really picking a request number and giving everyone everything they want and the people that are on the backside of that number will end up with nothing.
They took priority away from us they took odds away from us they took GA only away from us and now we need to just put our faith its a fair system. Those things I just mentioned helped us prove the lotto was fairly done. Now we have nothing. Pretty frustrating to be honest.
They messed up priority bad in 2023. We were able to catch it as fans on this board and 10C made the change and redid the lotto which was a great thing to do. It was still messed up but at least they tried. Now we just take whatever they give us and people just say its a lotto what do you expect. I expect to win at least one RES for Raleigh out of 4 tries. There is no way the demand for that show is so great I would miss out on it that many times based of previous demand for these shows. I just dont believe it.
If I am wrong and the demand was there enough to have me miss all 4 shows then they have broken the lotto allowing people put in for shows that have no desire to even go to gambling on GA and just having fan to fan to throw the tickets back to. I dont expect a response from 10C on this but it does not take a rocket scientist to see this is a broken system for some fans.
Putting faith into Ticketmaster is impossible LOL.
Raleigh in 2016 had 99% odds. Everyone that put in for RES for that show won it. Now there are two shows when they couldn't even fill the 10C ticket allotment in 2016. They couldn't even fill GA for that show with first priority. The demand was so low.
You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen.
Two things do seem like BS but we DONT truly know:
1. "More seats than ever before" with so many shutouts which was how PJ Premium / upper deck seats were originally sold 2. Only 10% of seats being PJ Premium
HOWEVER there are 2 big factors driving demand the other way that are hard to estimate: 1. Short tours in arenas = less capacity overall so more demand for any given show 2. Elimination of priority makes it way more likely to win 3+ shows...under old system that was a lot harder and likely had more even distribution of tickets
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You are now telling me with 10C getting more tickets than ever (nosebleeds) I can go 0/4 with Raleigh? I don't believe its' possible. I believe my and my wife's account were not even considered for the draw. Missing the hard to get Pitts and Hollywood sure I get that but missing Raleigh on top of that does not make any sense. I have other friends that had the exact same thing happen.
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How many people put in for Raleigh? How many won? It would not be that difficult to give us that info. Also give me a heads up if something was flagged on my account or my wife's that prevented us from getting tickets.
Tell us how the lotto works. Do they in fact do it show by show with GA being filled first like they did in the past and then RES or are they really picking a request number and giving everyone everything they want and the people that are on the backside of that number will end up with nothing.
They took priority away from us they took odds away from us they took GA only away from us and now we need to just put our faith its a fair system. Those things I just mentioned helped us prove the lotto was fairly done. Now we have nothing. Pretty frustrating to be honest.
They messed up priority bad in 2023. We were able to catch it as fans on this board and 10C made the change and redid the lotto which was a great thing to do. It was still messed up but at least they tried. Now we just take whatever they give us and people just say its a lotto what do you expect. I expect to win at least one RES for Raleigh out of 4 tries. There is no way the demand for that show is so great I would miss out on it that many times based of previous demand for these shows. I just dont believe it.
If I am wrong and the demand was there enough to have me miss all 4 shows then they have broken the lotto allowing people put in for shows that have no desire to even go to gambling on GA and just having fan to fan to throw the tickets back to. I dont expect a response from 10C on this but it does not take a rocket scientist to see this is a broken system for some fans.
Math ain't mathin'. It definitely seems that some accounts were just completely thrown out or not considered in the draw.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
They didn't have any 300 level for the lottery, just floor, 100, and 200 levels
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
I submitted requests under my wife’s account, that I just signed up for on 12/2 with the rumors of an announcement, about 5 mins later. Just ATL and Raleigh. 0-4.
Both TM accounts use the same home address and Mastercard.
X ATL 2
X Nash 1
X Nash 2
X Pitt 1
1. "More seats than ever before" with so many shutouts which was how PJ Premium / upper deck seats were originally sold
2. Only 10% of seats being PJ Premium
HOWEVER there are 2 big factors driving demand the other way that are hard to estimate:
1. Short tours in arenas = less capacity overall so more demand for any given show
2. Elimination of priority makes it way more likely to win 3+ shows...under old system that was a lot harder and likely had more even distribution of tickets