Bernie Sanders statement on the election
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
The strange part is that I feel like Birdie and Harris were closely aligned in their positions back in primaries leading up to 2019 elections. (In the was that they represented the extreme left agenda)
I like them both as humans.
American voters were not going extreme left, which was why neither got the nom that time.
Would I personally prefer vs extreme right?
Sure.
But not at all what I want, overall.
Regardless, it is easy for Bernie to blast the losing effort by Dems after the fact.
Give him credit....dude says what he thinks.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?Spiritual_Chaos said:
They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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"I will lower taxes on day 1"Halifax2TheMax said:
What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?Spiritual_Chaos said:
They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE
"i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
"I will bring back jobs on day 1"
"I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
"Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"
And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
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"I will lower taxes on day 1"Halifax2TheMax said:
What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?Spiritual_Chaos said:
They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE
"i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
"I will bring back jobs on day 1"
"I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
"Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"
And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate.The sad part is the American economy is fine, outperforming almost all other countries, but prices are high mostly due to tr,mp not fixing the supply chain during Covid. Dems did terrible by not even attempting to make that argument.
THE GOP were able to paint the Dems as an extremist far left, pro Hamas, pro trans and woke. Last year, when I saw pro Hamas rallies at American colleges (and the endless comments on AMT) I became very concerned the Democratic Party was finished.This election an abysmally low 32% of Americans identify as democrats. Wake the fuck up Bernie and the far left, america has fully and completely rejected the policies of the far left.0 -
Yes. But this needs to be communicated so that people feel "we are winning", "thank god for how great they are solving this" and "oh, it would be this much worse with Trumps policies right now" instead of feeling "This is hell. We need to try someone else". You have to move the POV.Lerxst1992 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:
"I will lower taxes on day 1"Halifax2TheMax said:
What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?Spiritual_Chaos said:
They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE
"i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
"I will bring back jobs on day 1"
"I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
"Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"
And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate.The sad part is the American economy is fine, outperforming almost all other countries, but prices are high mostly due to tr,mp not fixing the supply chain during Covid. Dems did terrible by not even attempting to make that argument.
I only heard pundits and and podcast-people say "well, actually we are outperforming the rest of the world". Maybe I just missed that message, and/or it was hammered but but just didn't connect with people. I just listened to maybe 2 Kamala rallies, a few of Trumps and some podcasts.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Were they pro-palestine or pro-hamas?Lerxst1992 said:
THE GOP were able to paint the Dems as an extremist far left, pro Hamas, pro trans and woke. Last year, when I saw pro Hamas rallies at American colleges (and the endless comments on AMT) I became very concerned the Democratic Party was finished."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I really mean this and I’m not trying to be an ass. But when the hell do you sleep? It’s the only thing I can think about.Halifax2TheMax said:
What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?Spiritual_Chaos said:
They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 0 -
I only sleep when the rangers lose, so I’m in big trouble.nicknyr15 said:
I really mean this and I’m not trying to be an ass. But when the hell do you sleep? It’s the only thing I can think about.Halifax2TheMax said:
What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?Spiritual_Chaos said:
They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 0 -
Haha! It’s a long seasonLerxst1992 said:
I only sleep when the rangers lose, so I’m in big trouble.nicknyr15 said:
I really mean this and I’m not trying to be an ass. But when the hell do you sleep? It’s the only thing I can think about.Halifax2TheMax said:
What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?Spiritual_Chaos said:
They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 0 -
So, what you’re saying is is that POOTWH made a bunch of promises that he can’t keep and was able to convince people that he knows how to do so? We call people who believe what someone like POOTWH is selling, suckers. I don’t know what you call people like that in Sweden and whether you have them or not but reality used to mean something. How’s Sweden’s inflation, interest and unemployment rates?Spiritual_Chaos said:
"I will lower taxes on day 1"Halifax2TheMax said:
What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?Spiritual_Chaos said:
They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE
"i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
"I will bring back jobs on day 1"
"I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
"Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"
And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate.
Reality in the US:
Gallon of gas: $3.10
30 year fixed mortgage: 6.74%
unemployment rate: 4.1%Wage growth: average salary in 2023 = $66,621 equating to a 4.43% increase over 2022.
Inflation rate: 2.44%, down from 2.53% last month and from 3.77% last year.
Rank of US economy coming out of Covid compared to rest of the world: #1 and here’s a few links to the breakdown of the recovery:
https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/tracking-the-recovery-from-the-pandemic-recession
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/So, what policies was Bernie advocating for, introducing as legislation or doing on behalf of the “hard working middle class” that would have lead to better outcomes than what Brandon and Kamala produced? Results versus rhetoric and it’s unfortunate so many people are suckers. I guess Bernie and the bros were for it before they were against it? Fuck Bernie and his post election finger wagging.
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/bernie-buzz/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-historic-infrastructure-bill/
Maybe get back to us on Brandon and Kamala’s tax policy and what Bernie thinks would be better, eh?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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By this post, it doesn't seem like you have even read the thread. You are not going against what I am saying. Your are missing the mark. Fifteen links won't help in that case.Halifax2TheMax said:
So, what you’re saying is is that POOTWH made a bunch of promises that he can’t keep and was able to convince people that he knows how to do so? We call people who believe what someone like POOTWH is selling, suckers. I don’t know what you call people like that in Sweden and whether you have them or not but reality used to mean something. How’s Sweden’s inflation, interest and unemployment rates?Spiritual_Chaos said:
"I will lower taxes on day 1"Halifax2TheMax said:
What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?Spiritual_Chaos said:
They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE
"i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
"I will bring back jobs on day 1"
"I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
"Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"
And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate.
Reality in the US:
Gallon of gas: $3.10
30 year fixed mortgage: 6.74%
unemployment rate: 4.1%Wage growth: average salary in 2023 = $66,621 equating to a 4.43% increase over 2022.
Inflation rate: 2.44%, down from 2.53% last month and from 3.77% last year.
Rank of US economy coming out of Covid compared to rest of the world: #1 and here’s a few links to the breakdown of the recovery:
https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/tracking-the-recovery-from-the-pandemic-recession
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/So, what policies was Bernie advocating for, introducing as legislation or doing on behalf of the “hard working middle class” that would have lead to better outcomes than what Brandon and Kamala produced? Results versus rhetoric and it’s unfortunate so many people are suckers. I guess Bernie and the bros were for it before they were against it? Fuck Bernie and his post election finger wagging.
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/bernie-buzz/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-historic-infrastructure-bill/
Maybe get back to us on Brandon and Kamala’s tax policy and what Bernie thinks would be better, eh?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
So he’ll have total control of every aspect of government the house the senate they should be able to dismantle ACÁ and throw 20 million folks off it! That’s just for starters he will pardon all 1/6 participants that are jailed, he will squash all the investigations that pertains to him, he will bank another 100 million by the time he’s done and he won’t pay a dime to JCarrol zero! This country loves fuck face criminals like himjesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Your initial post is Bernie whining about the “hard working middle class” being forgotten about and ignored by the Democratic Party and I just showed you that actual legislation and leadership by Brandon and Kamala has benefited them. So, what’s Bernie going to do other than flap his lips and point fingers? What substantive actions will he take or do? Oh right, none because he’s one of 100 in a minority party and scorned as a socialist by the majority party. Bernie’s got no juice.Spiritual_Chaos said:
By this post, it doesn't seem like you have even read the thread. You are not going against what I am saying. Your are missing the mark. Fifteen links won't help in that case.Halifax2TheMax said:
So, what you’re saying is is that POOTWH made a bunch of promises that he can’t keep and was able to convince people that he knows how to do so? We call people who believe what someone like POOTWH is selling, suckers. I don’t know what you call people like that in Sweden and whether you have them or not but reality used to mean something. How’s Sweden’s inflation, interest and unemployment rates?Spiritual_Chaos said:
"I will lower taxes on day 1"Halifax2TheMax said:
What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?Spiritual_Chaos said:
They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE
"i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
"I will bring back jobs on day 1"
"I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
"Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"
And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate.
Reality in the US:
Gallon of gas: $3.10
30 year fixed mortgage: 6.74%
unemployment rate: 4.1%Wage growth: average salary in 2023 = $66,621 equating to a 4.43% increase over 2022.
Inflation rate: 2.44%, down from 2.53% last month and from 3.77% last year.
Rank of US economy coming out of Covid compared to rest of the world: #1 and here’s a few links to the breakdown of the recovery:
https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/tracking-the-recovery-from-the-pandemic-recession
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/So, what policies was Bernie advocating for, introducing as legislation or doing on behalf of the “hard working middle class” that would have lead to better outcomes than what Brandon and Kamala produced? Results versus rhetoric and it’s unfortunate so many people are suckers. I guess Bernie and the bros were for it before they were against it? Fuck Bernie and his post election finger wagging.
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/bernie-buzz/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-historic-infrastructure-bill/
Maybe get back to us on Brandon and Kamala’s tax policy and what Bernie thinks would be better, eh?
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Democrats still haven’t figured out that you don’t show up to a gun fight with a knife!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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You should read threads. Instead of having a snotty attitude.Halifax2TheMax said:
Your initial post is Bernie whining about the “hard working middle class” being forgotten about and ignored by the Democratic Party and I just showed you that actual legislation and leadership by Brandon and Kamala has benefited them. So, what’s Bernie going to do other than flap his lips and point fingers? What substantive actions will he take or do? Oh right, none because he’s one of 100 in a minority party and scorned as a socialist by the majority party. Bernie’s got no juice.Spiritual_Chaos said:
By this post, it doesn't seem like you have even read the thread. You are not going against what I am saying. Your are missing the mark. Fifteen links won't help in that case.Halifax2TheMax said:
So, what you’re saying is is that POOTWH made a bunch of promises that he can’t keep and was able to convince people that he knows how to do so? We call people who believe what someone like POOTWH is selling, suckers. I don’t know what you call people like that in Sweden and whether you have them or not but reality used to mean something. How’s Sweden’s inflation, interest and unemployment rates?Spiritual_Chaos said:
"I will lower taxes on day 1"Halifax2TheMax said:
What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?Spiritual_Chaos said:
They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.Halifax2TheMax said:
So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.Halifax2TheMax said:
Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE
"i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
"I will bring back jobs on day 1"
"I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
"Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"
And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate.
Reality in the US:
Gallon of gas: $3.10
30 year fixed mortgage: 6.74%
unemployment rate: 4.1%Wage growth: average salary in 2023 = $66,621 equating to a 4.43% increase over 2022.
Inflation rate: 2.44%, down from 2.53% last month and from 3.77% last year.
Rank of US economy coming out of Covid compared to rest of the world: #1 and here’s a few links to the breakdown of the recovery:
https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/tracking-the-recovery-from-the-pandemic-recession
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/So, what policies was Bernie advocating for, introducing as legislation or doing on behalf of the “hard working middle class” that would have lead to better outcomes than what Brandon and Kamala produced? Results versus rhetoric and it’s unfortunate so many people are suckers. I guess Bernie and the bros were for it before they were against it? Fuck Bernie and his post election finger wagging.
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/bernie-buzz/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-historic-infrastructure-bill/
Maybe get back to us on Brandon and Kamala’s tax policy and what Bernie thinks would be better, eh?
And what, no movie reference?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Would you have said that Americans were fascist and gung ho about election denial and jailing/shooting political rivals before 2016?F Me In The Brain said:
American voters were not going extreme left, which was why neither got the nom that time.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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