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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,305
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,564
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,305
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,564
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,376
    edited November 7
    The strange part is that I feel like Birdie and Harris were closely aligned in their positions back in primaries leading up to 2019 elections.  (In the was that they represented the extreme left agenda)

    I like them both as humans.  

    American voters were not going extreme left, which was why neither got the nom that time.

    Would I personally prefer vs extreme right?
    Sure.
    But not at all what I want, overall.

    Regardless, it is easy for Bernie to blast the losing effort by Dems after the fact. 
    Give him credit....dude says what he thinks.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,305
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,564
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    "I will lower taxes on day 1"
    "i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
    "I will bring back jobs on day 1"
    "I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
    "Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"

    And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,749
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    "I will lower taxes on day 1"
    "i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
    "I will bring back jobs on day 1"
    "I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
    "Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"

    And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate. 


    The sad part is the American economy is fine, outperforming almost all other countries, but prices are high mostly due to tr,mp not fixing the supply chain during Covid. Dems did terrible by not even attempting to make that argument.

    THE GOP were able to paint the Dems as an extremist far left, pro Hamas, pro trans and woke. Last year, when I saw pro Hamas rallies at American colleges (and the endless comments on AMT) I became very concerned the Democratic Party was finished. 

    This election an abysmally low 32% of Americans identify as democrats. Wake the fuck up Bernie and the far left, america has fully and completely rejected the policies of the far left.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,564
    edited November 7
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    "I will lower taxes on day 1"
    "i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
    "I will bring back jobs on day 1"
    "I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
    "Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"

    And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate. 


    The sad part is the American economy is fine, outperforming almost all other countries, but prices are high mostly due to tr,mp not fixing the supply chain during Covid. Dems did terrible by not even attempting to make that argument.
    Yes. But this needs to be communicated so that people feel "we are winning", "thank god for how great they are solving this" and "oh, it would be this much worse with Trumps policies right now" instead of feeling "This is hell. We need to try someone else". You have to move the POV.

    I only heard pundits and and podcast-people say "well, actually we are outperforming the rest of the world". Maybe I just missed that message, and/or it was hammered but but just didn't connect with people. I just listened to maybe 2 Kamala rallies, a few of Trumps and some podcasts.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,564
    Lerxst1992 said:

    THE GOP were able to paint the Dems as an extremist far left, pro Hamas, pro trans and woke. Last year, when I saw pro Hamas rallies at American colleges (and the endless comments on AMT) I became very concerned the Democratic Party was finished. 

    Were they pro-palestine or pro-hamas? 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,563
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    I really mean this and I’m not trying to be an ass. But when the hell do you sleep? It’s the only thing I can think about. 
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,749
    nicknyr15 said:
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    I really mean this and I’m not trying to be an ass. But when the hell do you sleep? It’s the only thing I can think about. 
     I only sleep when the rangers lose, so I’m in big trouble.
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,563
    Lerxst1992 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    I really mean this and I’m not trying to be an ass. But when the hell do you sleep? It’s the only thing I can think about. 
     I only sleep when the rangers lose, so I’m in big trouble.
    Haha! It’s a long season 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,305
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    "I will lower taxes on day 1"
    "i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
    "I will bring back jobs on day 1"
    "I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
    "Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"

    And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate. 
    So, what you’re saying is is that POOTWH made a bunch of promises that he can’t keep and was able to convince people that he knows how to do so? We call people who believe what someone like POOTWH is selling, suckers. I don’t know what you call people like that in Sweden and whether you have them or not but reality used to mean something. How’s Sweden’s inflation, interest and unemployment rates?

    Reality in the US:

    Gallon of gas: $3.10

    30 year fixed mortgage: 6.74%

    unemployment rate: 4.1%

    Wage growth: average salary in 2023 = $66,621 equating to a 4.43% increase over 2022.

    Inflation rate: 2.44%, down from 2.53% last month and from 3.77% last year.

    Rank of US economy coming out of Covid compared to rest of the world: #1 and here’s a few links to the breakdown of the recovery:

    https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/tracking-the-recovery-from-the-pandemic-recession

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/



    So, what policies was Bernie advocating for, introducing as legislation or doing on behalf of the “hard working middle class” that would have lead to better outcomes than what Brandon and Kamala produced? Results versus rhetoric and it’s unfortunate so many people are suckers. I guess Bernie and the bros were for it before they were against it? Fuck Bernie and his post election finger wagging.

    https://www.sanders.senate.gov/bernie-buzz/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-historic-infrastructure-bill/

    Maybe get back to us on Brandon and Kamala’s tax policy and what Bernie thinks would be better, eh?
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,564
    edited November 7
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    "I will lower taxes on day 1"
    "i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
    "I will bring back jobs on day 1"
    "I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
    "Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"

    And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate. 
    So, what you’re saying is is that POOTWH made a bunch of promises that he can’t keep and was able to convince people that he knows how to do so? We call people who believe what someone like POOTWH is selling, suckers. I don’t know what you call people like that in Sweden and whether you have them or not but reality used to mean something. How’s Sweden’s inflation, interest and unemployment rates?

    Reality in the US:

    Gallon of gas: $3.10

    30 year fixed mortgage: 6.74%

    unemployment rate: 4.1%

    Wage growth: average salary in 2023 = $66,621 equating to a 4.43% increase over 2022.

    Inflation rate: 2.44%, down from 2.53% last month and from 3.77% last year.

    Rank of US economy coming out of Covid compared to rest of the world: #1 and here’s a few links to the breakdown of the recovery:

    https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/tracking-the-recovery-from-the-pandemic-recession

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/



    So, what policies was Bernie advocating for, introducing as legislation or doing on behalf of the “hard working middle class” that would have lead to better outcomes than what Brandon and Kamala produced? Results versus rhetoric and it’s unfortunate so many people are suckers. I guess Bernie and the bros were for it before they were against it? Fuck Bernie and his post election finger wagging.

    https://www.sanders.senate.gov/bernie-buzz/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-historic-infrastructure-bill/

    Maybe get back to us on Brandon and Kamala’s tax policy and what Bernie thinks would be better, eh?
    By this post, it doesn't seem like you have even read the thread. You are not going against what I am saying. Your are missing the mark. Fifteen links won't help in that case.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,901
    So he’ll have total control of every aspect of government the house the senate they should be able to dismantle ACÁ and throw 20 million folks off it! That’s just for starters he will pardon all 1/6 participants that are jailed, he will squash all the investigations that pertains to him, he will bank another 100 million by the time he’s done and he won’t pay a dime to JCarrol zero! This country loves fuck face criminals like him 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,305
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    "I will lower taxes on day 1"
    "i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
    "I will bring back jobs on day 1"
    "I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
    "Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"

    And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate. 
    So, what you’re saying is is that POOTWH made a bunch of promises that he can’t keep and was able to convince people that he knows how to do so? We call people who believe what someone like POOTWH is selling, suckers. I don’t know what you call people like that in Sweden and whether you have them or not but reality used to mean something. How’s Sweden’s inflation, interest and unemployment rates?

    Reality in the US:

    Gallon of gas: $3.10

    30 year fixed mortgage: 6.74%

    unemployment rate: 4.1%

    Wage growth: average salary in 2023 = $66,621 equating to a 4.43% increase over 2022.

    Inflation rate: 2.44%, down from 2.53% last month and from 3.77% last year.

    Rank of US economy coming out of Covid compared to rest of the world: #1 and here’s a few links to the breakdown of the recovery:

    https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/tracking-the-recovery-from-the-pandemic-recession

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/



    So, what policies was Bernie advocating for, introducing as legislation or doing on behalf of the “hard working middle class” that would have lead to better outcomes than what Brandon and Kamala produced? Results versus rhetoric and it’s unfortunate so many people are suckers. I guess Bernie and the bros were for it before they were against it? Fuck Bernie and his post election finger wagging.

    https://www.sanders.senate.gov/bernie-buzz/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-historic-infrastructure-bill/

    Maybe get back to us on Brandon and Kamala’s tax policy and what Bernie thinks would be better, eh?
    By this post, it doesn't seem like you have even read the thread. You are not going against what I am saying. Your are missing the mark. Fifteen links won't help in that case.
    Your initial post is Bernie whining about the “hard working middle class” being forgotten about and ignored by the Democratic Party and I just showed you that actual legislation and leadership by Brandon and Kamala has benefited them. So, what’s Bernie going to do other than flap his lips and point fingers? What substantive actions will he take or do? Oh right, none because he’s one of 100 in a minority party and scorned as a socialist by the majority party. Bernie’s got no juice.

    And what, no movie reference?
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,901
    Democrats still haven’t figured out that you don’t show up to a gun fight with a knife! 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,564
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    "I will lower taxes on day 1"
    "i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
    "I will bring back jobs on day 1"
    "I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
    "Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"

    And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate. 
    So, what you’re saying is is that POOTWH made a bunch of promises that he can’t keep and was able to convince people that he knows how to do so? We call people who believe what someone like POOTWH is selling, suckers. I don’t know what you call people like that in Sweden and whether you have them or not but reality used to mean something. How’s Sweden’s inflation, interest and unemployment rates?

    Reality in the US:

    Gallon of gas: $3.10

    30 year fixed mortgage: 6.74%

    unemployment rate: 4.1%

    Wage growth: average salary in 2023 = $66,621 equating to a 4.43% increase over 2022.

    Inflation rate: 2.44%, down from 2.53% last month and from 3.77% last year.

    Rank of US economy coming out of Covid compared to rest of the world: #1 and here’s a few links to the breakdown of the recovery:

    https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/tracking-the-recovery-from-the-pandemic-recession

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/



    So, what policies was Bernie advocating for, introducing as legislation or doing on behalf of the “hard working middle class” that would have lead to better outcomes than what Brandon and Kamala produced? Results versus rhetoric and it’s unfortunate so many people are suckers. I guess Bernie and the bros were for it before they were against it? Fuck Bernie and his post election finger wagging.

    https://www.sanders.senate.gov/bernie-buzz/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-historic-infrastructure-bill/

    Maybe get back to us on Brandon and Kamala’s tax policy and what Bernie thinks would be better, eh?
    By this post, it doesn't seem like you have even read the thread. You are not going against what I am saying. Your are missing the mark. Fifteen links won't help in that case.
    Your initial post is Bernie whining about the “hard working middle class” being forgotten about and ignored by the Democratic Party and I just showed you that actual legislation and leadership by Brandon and Kamala has benefited them. So, what’s Bernie going to do other than flap his lips and point fingers? What substantive actions will he take or do? Oh right, none because he’s one of 100 in a minority party and scorned as a socialist by the majority party. Bernie’s got no juice.

    And what, no movie reference?
    You should read threads. Instead of having a snotty attitude. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,564
    edited November 7
    F Me In The Brain said:


    American voters were not going extreme left, which was why neither got the nom that time.
    Would you have said that Americans were fascist and gung ho about election denial and jailing/shooting political rivals before 2016?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,305
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    "I will lower taxes on day 1"
    "i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
    "I will bring back jobs on day 1"
    "I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
    "Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"

    And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate. 
    So, what you’re saying is is that POOTWH made a bunch of promises that he can’t keep and was able to convince people that he knows how to do so? We call people who believe what someone like POOTWH is selling, suckers. I don’t know what you call people like that in Sweden and whether you have them or not but reality used to mean something. How’s Sweden’s inflation, interest and unemployment rates?

    Reality in the US:

    Gallon of gas: $3.10

    30 year fixed mortgage: 6.74%

    unemployment rate: 4.1%

    Wage growth: average salary in 2023 = $66,621 equating to a 4.43% increase over 2022.

    Inflation rate: 2.44%, down from 2.53% last month and from 3.77% last year.

    Rank of US economy coming out of Covid compared to rest of the world: #1 and here’s a few links to the breakdown of the recovery:

    https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/tracking-the-recovery-from-the-pandemic-recession

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/



    So, what policies was Bernie advocating for, introducing as legislation or doing on behalf of the “hard working middle class” that would have lead to better outcomes than what Brandon and Kamala produced? Results versus rhetoric and it’s unfortunate so many people are suckers. I guess Bernie and the bros were for it before they were against it? Fuck Bernie and his post election finger wagging.

    https://www.sanders.senate.gov/bernie-buzz/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-historic-infrastructure-bill/

    Maybe get back to us on Brandon and Kamala’s tax policy and what Bernie thinks would be better, eh?
    By this post, it doesn't seem like you have even read the thread. You are not going against what I am saying. Your are missing the mark. Fifteen links won't help in that case.
    Your initial post is Bernie whining about the “hard working middle class” being forgotten about and ignored by the Democratic Party and I just showed you that actual legislation and leadership by Brandon and Kamala has benefited them. So, what’s Bernie going to do other than flap his lips and point fingers? What substantive actions will he take or do? Oh right, none because he’s one of 100 in a minority party and scorned as a socialist by the majority party. Bernie’s got no juice.

    And what, no movie reference?
    You should read threads. Instead of having a snotty attitude. 
    You should stop being high on Bernie and believing his rhetoric. Don’t they teach you that actions speak louder than words in Sweden?
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,564
    edited November 7
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Fuck off Bernie. You lost. And your message was rejected. Those that voted POOTWH aren’t going to vote socialism. Lost cause.
    Pretty sure he had more success with his "message" in his runs then you have ever had in a debate on this board. Could be because of your tendency of errors, like the two glaring ones in your quote above. While Bernie is often spot on.

    Here you have his winning speech from yesterday, to lighten your mood a bit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bNNv1AbGYE 
    So let’s see the repubs deliver for the “working class.” Gee? What might that look like? Good fucking luck, with or without Bernie and his bros.
    They seem to deliver more of a promise to the "working class" than "Hello, here is Liz Cheney". Gee.
    What “promise” have the repubs kept as it relates to poor, middle class working people? Keeping litter boxes out of classrooms? Keeping tampons out of boys bathrooms? Banning drag queen story hours? Have Bernie get back to us, will ya?
    "I will lower taxes on day 1"
    "i will lower prices on day 1. You can't even afford bacon!"
    "I will bring back jobs on day 1"
    "I will deport the non-white people who are stealing your jobs"
    "Don't think about the environment, other people or countries or the future. That is someone else's problems and you have to be able to pay your rent"

    And, seems like that resonated more in a distressed economy than "I will actually give a credit on starting a small business, because I love the middle class. Now lets welcome out Liz Cheney and by the way, I am not Joe Biden but at the same time I am" when people connected the economy to the candidate. 
    So, what you’re saying is is that POOTWH made a bunch of promises that he can’t keep and was able to convince people that he knows how to do so? We call people who believe what someone like POOTWH is selling, suckers. I don’t know what you call people like that in Sweden and whether you have them or not but reality used to mean something. How’s Sweden’s inflation, interest and unemployment rates?

    Reality in the US:

    Gallon of gas: $3.10

    30 year fixed mortgage: 6.74%

    unemployment rate: 4.1%

    Wage growth: average salary in 2023 = $66,621 equating to a 4.43% increase over 2022.

    Inflation rate: 2.44%, down from 2.53% last month and from 3.77% last year.

    Rank of US economy coming out of Covid compared to rest of the world: #1 and here’s a few links to the breakdown of the recovery:

    https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/tracking-the-recovery-from-the-pandemic-recession

    https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/



    So, what policies was Bernie advocating for, introducing as legislation or doing on behalf of the “hard working middle class” that would have lead to better outcomes than what Brandon and Kamala produced? Results versus rhetoric and it’s unfortunate so many people are suckers. I guess Bernie and the bros were for it before they were against it? Fuck Bernie and his post election finger wagging.

    https://www.sanders.senate.gov/bernie-buzz/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-historic-infrastructure-bill/

    Maybe get back to us on Brandon and Kamala’s tax policy and what Bernie thinks would be better, eh?
    By this post, it doesn't seem like you have even read the thread. You are not going against what I am saying. Your are missing the mark. Fifteen links won't help in that case.
    Your initial post is Bernie whining about the “hard working middle class” being forgotten about and ignored by the Democratic Party and I just showed you that actual legislation and leadership by Brandon and Kamala has benefited them. So, what’s Bernie going to do other than flap his lips and point fingers? What substantive actions will he take or do? Oh right, none because he’s one of 100 in a minority party and scorned as a socialist by the majority party. Bernie’s got no juice.

    And what, no movie reference?
    You should read threads. Instead of having a snotty attitude. 
    You should stop being high on Bernie and believing his rhetoric. Don’t they teach you that actions speak louder than words in Sweden?
    Learn how to read a thread. Instead of having a snotty non-constructive attitude. 
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,564
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    And what, no movie reference?
    Me sitting and watching Halifax2theMax study how to read a thread:


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    Rogan supported Bernie a few years ago...
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,901
    What’s Bernie going to do when the new administration starts implementing P25? He has zero chance of stopping any of it it’s all Republican controlled he should just stick to his own state politics and stay away from national issues! Republicans have total control 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Bernie is still one of the only people that would have gotten me to not vote Democrat if he was on the ticket the last few presidential elections.  
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,645
    cincybearcat said:
    Bernie is still one of the only people that would have gotten me to not vote Democrat if he was on the ticket the last few presidential elections.  
    Who do you feel would have done best as the Dem nominee?
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,564
    cincybearcat said:
    Bernie is still one of the only people that would have gotten me to not vote Democrat if he was on the ticket the last few presidential elections.  
    What makes you vote democrat to begin with, and not republican?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Bernie is still one of the only people that would have gotten me to not vote Democrat if he was on the ticket the last few presidential elections.  
    What makes you vote democrat to begin with, and not republican?
    Trump.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,488
    Gern Blansten said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Bernie is still one of the only people that would have gotten me to not vote Democrat if he was on the ticket the last few presidential elections.  
    Who do you feel would have done best as the Dem nominee?
    Which election?  Regardless I am not the base of the Dem party.  I lean more conservative on many issues so Bernie, for me, was way too far a departure from my positions to ever consider.  
    hippiemom = goodness
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