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Les Paul or E-335

clarkkentclarkkent Posts: 51
edited December 2003 in Musicians and Gearheads
I'm looking at getting a new guitar. I own a strat now, but I want to move into the world of Gibson-style guitars, and I'm debating on getting a Les Paul or a E-335 "Dot" style guitar. Obviously, Pearl Jam is a big influence, but so are band like The Beatles and Zeppelin and some other stuff. I've played both at a guitar shop, but not enough to iron out the decision. The question: I like the rocking capabilities of the Les Paul, but the semi-acoustic clean tone of the "Dot" style. Can you get a good rock distorted tone from an Epiphone Dot, or would it be better to go with a Les Paul.

I'm leaning towards one right now, I would just appreciate your input as well.

Thanks for your help!
tank you veddy much
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  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    The Paul will tend to be a bit edgier, and the Dot a bit fuller and more open-sounding. And yes, you can totally get a great overdriven/distorted sound out of a ES-style guitar. Both are great, and you can't go wrong with one or the other. I say, Follow your heart, young Skywalker!
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • clarkkentclarkkent Posts: 51
    Follow your heart, young Skywalker! [/B]

    Gracias, Obi Wan. I'm leaning towards the Paul right now, but I like the acoustic aspects of the Dot. I dunno I dunno I dunno. 'Tis a question for the ages I suppose. Perhaps someday I will have both...........
    tank you veddy much
  • JSP552003JSP552003 Posts: 222
    I got a Gibson Les Paul Special SL a while back and I love this guitar. Les Paul's are great. Make sure that you try to get one with the neck you like because some of the necks are thicker than others. I prefer the 60's slim taper neck. Les Pauls are great. My fav guitars.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by clarkkent
    Gracias, Obi Wan. I'm leaning towards the Paul right now, but I like the acoustic aspects of the Dot. I dunno I dunno I dunno. 'Tis a question for the ages I suppose. Perhaps someday I will have both...........

    Both would be cool... of course, we all wish we could have one of each. If you like the fit and feel of the LP, go for it! Can't go wrong with a Les Paul...
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    It's your back mate. I've got a LP Studio right now and I'm hoping for a 335 to trade.. Play them both and see which one is more comfy.

    I personally love both guitars but because of my love for blues I probably lean towards the 335's right now. I love hollowbodies very open tons of sustain.

    Then again I'd never tell anyone not to buy a Les Paul.

    May the schwartz be with you.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • clarkkentclarkkent Posts: 51
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    May the schwartz be with you. [/B]

    Down the street, Schwartz was getting his....

    Anybody see Elf? Notice that Ralpie (Peter Billingsly) was one of the elves, the one talking to Will Farrell about his Etch-A-Sketch making capabilities. I thought it was kind of funny.

    And speaking of Elves, perhaps they are creating my Les Paul up at the North Pole right now.........Santa always knows more about what you want than you do....
    tank you veddy much
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by clarkkent
    Down the street, Schwartz was getting his....

    Anybody see Elf? Notice that Ralpie (Peter Billingsly) was one of the elves, the one talking to Will Farrell about his Etch-A-Sketch making capabilities. I thought it was kind of funny.

    And speaking of Elves, perhaps they are creating my Les Paul up at the North Pole right now.........Santa always knows more about what you want than you do....


    Well then there's a lovely brunette musician with beautiful eyes and a nice smile in my future. I've been really good this year.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    Well then there's a lovely brunette musician with beautiful eyes and a nice smile in my future. I've been really good this year.

    You want Stone Gossard for Christmas?
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    Well then there's a lovely brunette musician with beautiful eyes and a nice smile in my future. I've been really good this year.

    about fuckin' time.
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    if i had a do-over, i'd get an es-335 over my lp custom. but now that i have the custom, i'm not letting it go either.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by mccreadyisgod
    You want Stone Gossard for Christmas?


    and a vagina.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    and a vagina.

    I'd rather get a girlfriend and just use hers...
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Ok Damnit!


    Well then there's a lovely female brunette musician with beautiful eyes and a nice smile and delightful disposition as well as razor sharp wit in my future. I've been really good this year.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    Ok Damnit!


    Well then there's a lovely female brunette musician with beautiful eyes and a nice smile and delightful disposition as well as razor sharp wit in my future. I've been really good this year.

    It wasn't that hard...
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • clarkkentclarkkent Posts: 51
    Dontcha just feel the love?

    Les Paul's are cool.....but I like the Dot style. Question: Do you get a bunch more feedback with a semi-hollow? I never have had a chance to really crank one to tell?
    tank you veddy much
  • exhaustedexhausted Posts: 6,638
    Originally posted by clarkkent
    Dontcha just feel the love?

    Les Paul's are cool.....but I like the Dot style. Question: Do you get a bunch more feedback with a semi-hollow? I never have had a chance to really crank one to tell?

    yes, more feedback is a possibility, but i found it to be nicely controllable. it wasn't heinous microphonic feedback. it was harmonic.
  • dannyschmannydannyschmanny Posts: 72
    it all depends on the the type of style's you play.
    i remember you...i was gonna vote for you one time...but voting isn't cool so i stayed home and got trashed on listerine.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by clarkkent
    Dontcha just feel the love?

    Les Paul's are cool.....but I like the Dot style. Question: Do you get a bunch more feedback with a semi-hollow? I never have had a chance to really crank one to tell?

    on a Grestch sure something bigger but not on a 335. Just sweet sustain with controllable feedback.

    Tom Morello plays an Ibanez Artstar which is basically a copy of an ES-335
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    on a Grestch sure something bigger but not on a 335. Just sweet sustain with controllable feedback.

    Tom Morello plays an Ibanez Artstar which is basically a copy of an ES-335

    Those Ibanez units are pretty good, actually... my friend wants a ES-333 or -335, but got an Art instead (money, our evil friend) and he's been really pleased with it. You could always get a used Epi Les Paul and a hollowbodied Ibanez for about the price of a single Gibson...
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
  • clarkkentclarkkent Posts: 51
    Originally posted by mccreadyisgod
    You could always get a used Epi Les Paul and a hollowbodied Ibanez for about the price of a single Gibson...

    Ah, money, so very evil.....Gibson's a Gibson. Hmmm. How do the Ibanez's compare? I guess if Tom Morello is happy with his, then I have no reason to doubt it.
    tank you veddy much
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by clarkkent
    Ah, money, so very evil.....Gibson's a Gibson. Hmmm. How do the Ibanez's compare? I guess if Tom Morello is happy with his, then I have no reason to doubt it.

    everyone likes different things. Tom's main guitar is a mix matched homemade one with "Arm the Homeless" written on the top. He gets those cool sounds with an allen wrench and a whammy pedal off of active EMG P/U's. He also likes Hagstroms and the Ibanez's. Ibanez makes quality stuff. That factory in Japan is clean as a hospital surgery room and They are good enough for Steve Vai and Joe Satriani as well.

    I personally love the looks of the 335. Epiphone makes an Elite version of the DOT for around $1200 the also have an Elite Casino for the same price. Basically they take the parts of an American built 335 and build it in another country. They are excellent guitars for around $1000 less than their American counterparts.
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • mccreadyisgodmccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    Originally posted by clarkkent
    Ah, money, so very evil.....Gibson's a Gibson. Hmmm. How do the Ibanez's compare? I guess if Tom Morello is happy with his, then I have no reason to doubt it.

    I wouldn't just mail a check off to Ibanez based on that... but I would certainly recommend giving them a try. I was actually very impressed with the quality, craftsmanship, and sound (seeing as how the Gibsons are $2000 guitars and the Ibanez's are $300 guitars).

    Anyways, here's the eye-candy:
    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/sid=031220031110209206226210917624/g=live/search/d=tp?q=Ibanez+Artcore

    Like I said, find one and jam a bit... if you like it, you can save some serious bank... you can always buy the real thing when the record companies give you the advance on your first album.
    ...and if you don't like it, you can suck on an egg.
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