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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    Neither is Hunter Biden, so why spoil the republican's delusional fun. 
  • sdharv1919
    sdharv1919 Traverse City, MI Posts: 27
    Also, he is not running for any office. 
    Well, wait until you hear what Kamala did to get where she’s at.
    Alpine Valley 6/26/98
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  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,730
    edited August 2024
    Also, he is not running for any office. 
    Well, wait until you hear what Kamala did to get where she’s at.
    You're pathetic... and probably afraid of successful women..
    She went to law school, ran for several public offices... won a bunch of elections... what have YOU done? 
    Post edited by gotthebottle on
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,349
    Also, he is not running for any office. 
    Well, wait until you hear what Kamala did to get where she’s at.
    Went to law school? OH... the Willie Brown/Montel Williams BS. Yeah, whatever.

    None of it true, but even if it was? No one literally gives two shits.

    Trump's done way worse (as recently as 8 years ago - Hi, Stormy! How you doin', Karen McDougal👋). He tried with Hope Hicks, but struck out. Womp, womp.

    And let's not forget the fact that he's had them eyes on his own daughter since she was old enough to buy Ten when it came out👀

    Look, I kinda like Kamala. Not love, just like. And I'll be voting for her. But you Trump supporters never cease to crack me up😂like... have you listened to this band for the past 33 years??

    Republicans have no moral center anymore. They're all complicit in the downfall of the middle class in this country, and the paving of our express lane to an uninhabitable planet.

    That's not hyperbole, or emotion talking... that's fact. Survival of the fittest, richest & whitest. The GOP standard. It's in every action they take. 

    You can't claim Lincoln, Roosevelt, or Ike... while supporting trash like Boebert, Gym Jordan, Marjorie, Ted Cruz, Matt Gaetz, and the Orange Oaf himself. The old guard is dead.

    What remains is a twisted, McDonald's-esque version of hyper-patriotism that will be the death of us all within a generation or two, if let into power.

    Kamala represents a paradigm shift towards better. And nothing, I repeat NOTHING you say, or point out from some right wing rag about her will do anything to change that.

    Suck it up, buttercup & be a better human😘
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,349
    The Aristocrats!
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • patkelly12
    patkelly12 CT Posts: 361
    Which polls better? Paradigm shifting or evolving?
  • Human Tide
    Human Tide Posts: 329
    Which polls better? Paradigm shifting or evolving?
    If you have a point to make, perhaps you could state it clearly so it can be discussed. I can infer what you probably mean, but you should have the opportunity to explain your position. 
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,349
    edited August 2024
    Which polls better? Paradigm shifting or evolving?
    If you have a point to make, perhaps you could state it clearly so it can be discussed. I can infer what you probably mean, but you should have the opportunity to explain your position. 
    Now, now... can't have that. He'd have to have accountability & sound reasoning for that. 

    I've yet to hear any person alive make some actual sound reasoning for TFG.
    Post edited by Go Animal on
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 870
    Go Animal said:
    Which polls better? Paradigm shifting or evolving?
    If you have a point to make, perhaps you could state it clearly so it can be discussed. I can infer what you probably mean, but you should have the opportunity to explain your position. 
    Now, now... can't have that. He'd have to have accountability & sound reasoning for that. 

    I've yet to hear any person alive make some actual sound reasoning for TFG.
    Nope, it's all about trying to tear the other party down. Nothing positive to campaign on, just misery, whining, and pure divisiveness. And they're all f*cking weird. 

    "if you try to divide us, we'll divide ourselves from you." 
  • Travels With
    Travels With Posts: 610
    edited August 2024
    Positivity grace and kindness Usually wins people over. 
    Post edited by Travels With on
    “I suppose our capacity for self-delusion is boundless.” ― John Steinbeck, Travels with Charley: In Search of America
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,057
    Positivity grace and kindness Usually wins people over. 
    After 9 years of Trumpism I’m starting to wonder. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,349
    njhaley1 said:
    Go Animal said:
    Which polls better? Paradigm shifting or evolving?
    If you have a point to make, perhaps you could state it clearly so it can be discussed. I can infer what you probably mean, but you should have the opportunity to explain your position. 
    Now, now... can't have that. He'd have to have accountability & sound reasoning for that. 

    I've yet to hear any person alive make some actual sound reasoning for TFG.
    Nope, it's all about trying to tear the other party down. Nothing positive to campaign on, just misery, whining, and pure divisiveness. And they're all f*cking weird. 

    "if you try to divide us, we'll divide ourselves from you." 
    Ed said!
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,349
    Positivity, grace, and kindness. Usually wins people over. 
    In a perfect world, indeed. I wish that were enough. But since what the right is peddling is so cheap & easy to sell, sometimes we have to get a little dirty. But just a little ;)
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,800
    Positivity grace and kindness Usually wins people over. 
    And neither side has any of those things. It's all about attacking the other. 
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • njhaley1
    njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 870
    know1 said:
    Positivity grace and kindness Usually wins people over. 
    And neither side has any of those things. It's all about attacking the other. 
    Hardly. All you have to do is watch political commercials on local networks to know that's not even remotely true.  

    Option 1: https://youtu.be/E51bmUPzthQ?si=QnnzZMWzAEKtp3s-

    Option 2: https://app.frame.io/presentations/a2bb65e7-a32e-4cec-9258-847977d4cf76

    Just look at that dancing, laughing radical Indian...Black person, I mean, what is she? -TFG  
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    know1 said:
    Positivity grace and kindness Usually wins people over. 
    And neither side has any of those things. It's all about attacking the other. 
    Peddling the idea that both sides are the same just normalizes Trump’s dysfunction. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    know1 said:
    Positivity grace and kindness Usually wins people over. 
    And neither side has any of those things. It's all about attacking the other. 
    Peddling the idea that both sides are the same just normalizes Trump’s dysfunction. 
    I think a blind spot for Democrats is believing the gap is wider than it is
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,349
    know1 said:
    Positivity grace and kindness Usually wins people over. 
    And neither side has any of those things. It's all about attacking the other. 
    See, that's a popular misconception. There are levels to these things. 

    The majority of the left has been playing defense since Reagan.

    Modern populist GOP political strategy relies on feeding into people's fears of things they don't understand, or find abhorrent to their idea of American life.

    People of color are still marginalized when your candidate for president says things like Mexicans (all or some) are, quote:

    "When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. […] They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. Their or [they are] rapists. And some (I assume) are good people?

    Or my favorite: "I love the blacks!

    And gay people, the entire spectrum of the LGBTQ community are marginalized by the religious right in America. Right now, that sub-sect is the only thing giving the GOP any sort of footing & they have to play into that.

    If they could, the GOP would end same sex marriage. And let me tell you, the couples I know? Are way better parents & partners than some traditional couples.

    And that scares the shit out of religious extremists.

    Those are just a few examples of the left playing defense, and having said defense misconstrued as offense, or "both sides are bad".

    They are not. They are not equal. And they are not 2 sides to the same coin.

    The left, for all it's faults, is still the best option for equality, civil rights, environmental preservation, and embracing progress.

    The right says a woman who has an abortion for any reason, is a murderer. 

    The right says that all social & civic services should be privatized (but really are just trying to get their donors a return on investment).

    The right would have the U.S. looking and feeling like post-WWII America, and that's just not who we are anymore.

    They realize that, and use fear & division to try keep things the way they were. Survival of the fittest, richest & whitest.

    You can disagree on that, but "do as I say, not as I do" shows otherwise.

    I would love for there to be a 3rd, 4th or 4th party candidate as a viable option, but no one since Ross Perot has had the balls (and the money) to really make a go at it since.

    Anything else is a distraction & a ploy to sway the assumption of power away from a party that strives for true progress (i.e. Jill Stein/Green Party, the Libertarian party, etc.)

    Don't let anyone tell you "both sides are just as bad". Because that's just not the case.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    edited August 2024
    pjl44 said:
    know1 said:
    Positivity grace and kindness Usually wins people over. 
    And neither side has any of those things. It's all about attacking the other. 
    Peddling the idea that both sides are the same just normalizes Trump’s dysfunction. 
    I think a blind spot for Democrats is believing the gap is wider than it is
    I think a blind spot for self declared independents is believing the two parties are similar in order to make themselves feel differentiated.