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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    They really should sell tickets to this entertainment. Like POOTWH shops for any of these products. Probably comes out with three shopping carts of stuff because of that pesky $.99 a gallon orange juice sign.


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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,135
    teskeinc said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    njhaley1 said:
    JD Vance is more unpopular than Sarah Palin: https://abcnews.go.com/538/tim-walz-popular-jd-vance/story?id=112841577

    ABC throwing so much shade you'd think there was an eclipse.
    That legit surprises me. I really kinda thought it was a good pick. He served in the military and legitimately pulled himself out of poverty. Before he became such a boot-licking toady, I had generally positive feelings about him. He's done admirable things and the bad things are so Trumpian that I remain surprised he's not the most-popular US-born Trump sycophant within the base.
    Are you sure he pulled himself out of poverty? I think he grew up in a fairly well off household.
    I suppose he could have been blatantly lying in his book (Hillbilly Elegy) but as far as I know, it was pretty legit.

    I recently told the person who recommended that book to me that I'll never forgive him for recommending spending money on that (Jokingly, of course).
    He was a hero to Democrats when he wrote the book. Just like everyone loved Trump until he ran for President and was a Democrat.

    Youre told how to think, vote and hate by your media. CNN and MSNBC own you.
    I don't think JD was ever a hero to Democrats...just a guy with an interesting story. Trump sure as hell was not a hero. We didn't need to be told what to think when these guys opened their mouths.

    So much irony, though, that 24/7 "Liberals and Democrats are terrible" media tell their viewers that CNN and MSNBC tell people what to think.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    The Kamala campaign’s press release was spot on:

    During a press conference in Bedminster, N.J., former president Donald Trump again insulted Vice President Kamala Harris’s intelligence, a line of attack he has repeated alongside others that criticize her laugh and question her racial identity — despite allies urging him to stay focused on policy during campaign events.

    “She’s not smart. I don’t believe she loves our country,” he said Thursday.

    Asked about his strategy of personal jabs at Harris and whether he should deliver a more disciplined message, Trump said he was “very angry at her,” adding that he was “entitled to personal attacks.” He also referenced Democrats leveraging “weird,” an insult many are crediting Harris’s running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, with popularizing.

    “She’s actually called me weird,” Trump said, adding that the line had also been used against his running mate, Sen. JD Vance of Ohio.

    “He’s not weird,” Trump said. “He was a great student at Yale.”

    Former president Donald Trump just said, “We want to end the Biden-Harris electrical vehicle mandate,” which does not exist. Trump has repeatedly mischaracterized the Biden administration’s efforts to reduce car and truck pollution, calling it an “EV mandate.”

    Bahahahahahahaha!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/08/15/2024-election-campaign-updates-harris-trump/

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    Donald Trump and his campaign may have disavowed it, but don’t think for a moment that Project 2025 is going anywhere. A newly released hidden camera interview with one of the project’s authors, who also served in Trump’s Cabinet, reveals that the Republican nominee has “blessed it.”

    First, a little background.

    Project 2025, the MAGA blueprint to completely overhaul the federal government, is being spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation, the daddy of conservative think tanks, with input from more than 100 other right-wing organizations. “The Mandate for Leadership 2025: The Conservative Promise,” the official title, consists of four pillars:

    A 900-page policy guide for a second Trump term

    A playbook for the first 180 days, consisting of 350 executive orders and regulations that have already been written

    A LinkedIn-style database of potential MAGA personnel

    A “Presidential Administration Academy,” a training guide for political appointees to be ready on day one

    On July 24, Russell Vought, Trump’s former director of the Office of Management and Budget, Project 2025 author and Republican National Convention policy director, met with two people he thought were potential donors to his conservative group, Center for Renewing America. They were actually working for a British nonprofit trying to expose information about Project 2025. The two secretly recorded the two-hour conversation.

    In the video posted on CNN, Vought described the project as the “tip of the America First spear.” He said that after meeting with Trump in recent months, the former president “is very supportive of what we do.” The project would create “shadow agencies” that wouldn’t be subject to the same scrutiny as actual agencies of the federal government. Vought also told members of the British nonprofit that he was in charge of writing the second phase of Project 2025, consisting of the hundreds of executive orders ready to go on day one of a new administration.

    When asked how the information would be disseminated, his deputy said it would be distributed old-school, on paper. “You don’t actually, like, send them to their work emails,” he said, to avoid discovery under the Freedom of Information Act.

    Last week, ProPublica, an investigative journalism nonprofit, obtained more than 14 hours of training videos, which are part of Project 2025’s effort to recruit and train tens of thousands of right-wing appointees to replace a wide and deep swath of current federal civil servants.

    “We need to flood the zone with conservatives,” said Paul Dans, who was in charge of Project 2025 until he was fired because it’s become such a headache for Trump. “This is a clarion call to come to Washington,” Dans said in 2023.

    Project 2025 is not a new plan; it has been in the works for decades. The first version was published just after Ronald Reagan took office in 1981. In 2015 the Heritage Foundation gave the incoming Trump administration the seventh iteration. Should you think that Trump and his cronies know nothing about any of this, the Heritage Foundation boasted that Trump instituted 64% of the policy recommendations in that document, including leaving the Paris Climate Accords.

    Trump has tried and largely failed to distance himself from Project 2025. Perhaps because two high-ranking members of his administration were directors of the project. On Truth Social, Trump posted, “I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it….” As for those training videos, most of the speakers in them are former Trump administration officials.

    Many of Project 2025’s recommendations are deeply unpopular with Americans. A survey conducted by YouGov found that almost 60% of respondents opposed several big tenets, including: eliminating the Department of Education, giving tax cuts to corporations, ending the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), and changing the law to allow the president to fire civil servants.

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    It is difficult to convince voters that the project’s policy recommendations are real because they are so radical. Anat Shenker-Osorio, a political strategist, spoke about the challenges of discussing Project 2025 with focus groups on the podcast “The Wilderness.”

    “When we actually cut and paste verbatim from the Heritage document, people are like, that’s a bunch of bull****. Like, why did you make that up? And what is wrong with you? And why are you lying to us?” she said.

    To that end, here are just a few of the most democracy-threatening suggestions, verbatim:

    On child labor: “With parental consent and proper training, certain young adults should be allowed to learn and work in more dangerous occupations.”

    On education: “Federal education policy should be limited and, ultimately, the Federal Department of Education should be eliminated.“

    On climate change: “Climate-change research should be disbanded … The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) should be broken up and downsized.”

    On LGBTQ+ rights: “The next secretary should also reverse the Biden Administration’s focus on ‘LGBTQ+ equity,’ subsidizing single-motherhood, disincentivizing work, and penalizing marriage, replacing such policies with those encouraging marriage, work, motherhood, fatherhood, and nuclear families.”

    On families: “Families comprised of a married mother, father, and their children are the foundation of a well-ordered nation and healthy society … The male-female dyad is essential to human nature and … every child has a right to a mother and father.”

    Not to mention several highly publicized recommendations on abortion and women’s rights that are an effort to return to America of the 1950s.

    The architects of and adherents to Project 2025 want a white, heterosexual Christian nation. The ideals of our 250-year-old form of government, in which majority rules, are anathema to them. They want to inflict their beliefs on everyone, representative democracy be damned.

    I cannot state it strongly enough: Project 2025, with Donald Trump at the helm, is the greatest existential threat to American democracy in recent history. And make no mistake, should Trump win in November, he will usher in many if not most of the project’s recommendations.

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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,245
    Christ that presser was insane. I can't believe anyone would vote for that deranged idiot. 
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  • teskeinc said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    njhaley1 said:
    JD Vance is more unpopular than Sarah Palin: https://abcnews.go.com/538/tim-walz-popular-jd-vance/story?id=112841577

    ABC throwing so much shade you'd think there was an eclipse.
    That legit surprises me. I really kinda thought it was a good pick. He served in the military and legitimately pulled himself out of poverty. Before he became such a boot-licking toady, I had generally positive feelings about him. He's done admirable things and the bad things are so Trumpian that I remain surprised he's not the most-popular US-born Trump sycophant within the base.
    Are you sure he pulled himself out of poverty? I think he grew up in a fairly well off household.
    I suppose he could have been blatantly lying in his book (Hillbilly Elegy) but as far as I know, it was pretty legit.

    I recently told the person who recommended that book to me that I'll never forgive him for recommending spending money on that (Jokingly, of course).
    He was a hero to Democrats when he wrote the book. Just like everyone loved Trump until he ran for President and was a Democrat.

    Youre told how to think, vote and hate by your media. CNN and MSNBC own you.
    You’re delusional if you think “everyone loved trump” before he ran. The Apprentice was entertaining, but everyone knew beyond that he was a weirdo creep with a golden living room and was desperate for attention (Wrestlemania, anyone?). 

    I personally liked the Apprentice because he was making fools out of people who idolized him. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    teskeinc said:
    OnWis97 said:
    OnWis97 said:
    njhaley1 said:
    JD Vance is more unpopular than Sarah Palin: https://abcnews.go.com/538/tim-walz-popular-jd-vance/story?id=112841577

    ABC throwing so much shade you'd think there was an eclipse.
    That legit surprises me. I really kinda thought it was a good pick. He served in the military and legitimately pulled himself out of poverty. Before he became such a boot-licking toady, I had generally positive feelings about him. He's done admirable things and the bad things are so Trumpian that I remain surprised he's not the most-popular US-born Trump sycophant within the base.
    Are you sure he pulled himself out of poverty? I think he grew up in a fairly well off household.
    I suppose he could have been blatantly lying in his book (Hillbilly Elegy) but as far as I know, it was pretty legit.

    I recently told the person who recommended that book to me that I'll never forgive him for recommending spending money on that (Jokingly, of course).
    He was a hero to Democrats when he wrote the book. Just like everyone loved Trump until he ran for President and was a Democrat.

    Youre told how to think, vote and hate by your media. CNN and MSNBC own you.
    nobody loved trump before he ran for president. everybody on the planet knew he was an asshole.

    also, we do not need media to tell us when someone is an asshole. most of us can observe and come to that conclusion on our own.

    most of us.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    teskeinc said:
    I think tRump's people were planting seeds that he was going to pivot and start sounding more like a serious candidate yesterday. I was seeing things pop up on X about how his speech/conference was supposed to be more focused on policy, etc.

    During his speech he even mentioned something like he was supposed to sound "more intellectual" or something to that effect and talk about the economy. That lasted about a minute before he launched into his usual bullshit.

    I think a big shakeup is coming with his campaign. He's either not happy and is going to can someone or the campaign manager is sick of him not listening to him and will quit.

    edit: oddly I just heard that tRump fired his campaign managers in August in both 2016 and 2020...lol
    That’s all he needs to do, but he can’t. All he has to do is focus on the economy and the border. He can’t refrain from attacking candidates personally. Part of it is the response from his crowds when he uses a nickname. But that’s who he is. I’m sure he’s getting advice to stay on this issues, he just can’t help himself. 
    why would you vote for a man that cannot help himself and cannot focus on the single message he has to convey?

    most people would recognize this and be like "i think i will vote for someone else."
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,069
    @Teskenetic






    Literally everybody else in this thread




    Will still vote Trump because people watch MSNBC


  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Posts: 3,988
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,069
    But 20%!!!
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,904
    @Teskenetic






    Literally everybody else in this thread




    Will still vote Trump because people watch MSNBC


    I've literally been trying to explain this to him for weeks.


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    @Teskenetic






    Literally everybody else in this thread




    Will still vote Trump because people watch MSNBC


    I've literally been trying to explain this to him for weeks.


    And for weeks he has been trolling folks here. Cherry picking posts he responds to, typically in the most snarky way possible. In his defense, he's been quite clear this his about him & t$(#p owning the people here.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,013
    mickeyrat said:

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    Donald Trump and his campaign may have disavowed it, but don’t think for a moment that Project 2025 is going anywhere. A newly released hidden camera interview with one of the project’s authors, who also served in Trump’s Cabinet, reveals that the Republican nominee has “blessed it.”

    First, a little background.

    Project 2025, the MAGA blueprint to completely overhaul the federal government, is being spearheaded by the Heritage Foundation, the daddy of conservative think tanks, with input from more than 100 other right-wing organizations. “The Mandate for Leadership 2025: The Conservative Promise,” the official title, consists of four pillars:

    A 900-page policy guide for a second Trump term

    A playbook for the first 180 days, consisting of 350 executive orders and regulations that have already been written

    A LinkedIn-style database of potential MAGA personnel

    A “Presidential Administration Academy,” a training guide for political appointees to be ready on day one

    On July 24, Russell Vought, Trump’s former director of the Office of Management and Budget, Project 2025 author and Republican National Convention policy director, met with two people he thought were potential donors to his conservative group, Center for Renewing America. They were actually working for a British nonprofit trying to expose information about Project 2025. The two secretly recorded the two-hour conversation.

    In the video posted on CNN, Vought described the project as the “tip of the America First spear.” He said that after meeting with Trump in recent months, the former president “is very supportive of what we do.” The project would create “shadow agencies” that wouldn’t be subject to the same scrutiny as actual agencies of the federal government. Vought also told members of the British nonprofit that he was in charge of writing the second phase of Project 2025, consisting of the hundreds of executive orders ready to go on day one of a new administration.

    When asked how the information would be disseminated, his deputy said it would be distributed old-school, on paper. “You don’t actually, like, send them to their work emails,” he said, to avoid discovery under the Freedom of Information Act.

    Last week, ProPublica, an investigative journalism nonprofit, obtained more than 14 hours of training videos, which are part of Project 2025’s effort to recruit and train tens of thousands of right-wing appointees to replace a wide and deep swath of current federal civil servants.

    We need to flood the zone with conservatives,” said Paul Dans, who was in charge of Project 2025 until he was fired because it’s become such a headache for Trump. “This is a clarion call to come to Washington,” Dans said in 2023.

    Project 2025 is not a new plan; it has been in the works for decades. The first version was published just after Ronald Reagan took office in 1981. In 2015 the Heritage Foundation gave the incoming Trump administration the seventh iteration. Should you think that Trump and his cronies know nothing about any of this, the Heritage Foundation boasted that Trump instituted 64% of the policy recommendations in that document, including leaving the Paris Climate Accords.

    Trump has tried and largely failed to distance himself from Project 2025. Perhaps because two high-ranking members of his administration were directors of the project. On Truth Social, Trump posted, “I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it….” As for those training videos, most of the speakers in them are former Trump administration officials.

    Many of Project 2025’s recommendations are deeply unpopular with Americans. A survey conducted by YouGov found that almost 60% of respondents opposed several big tenets, including: eliminating the Department of Education, giving tax cuts to corporations, ending the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare), and changing the law to allow the president to fire civil servants.

    Share

    It is difficult to convince voters that the project’s policy recommendations are real because they are so radical. Anat Shenker-Osorio, a political strategist, spoke about the challenges of discussing Project 2025 with focus groups on the podcast “The Wilderness.”

    “When we actually cut and paste verbatim from the Heritage document, people are like, that’s a bunch of bull****. Like, why did you make that up? And what is wrong with you? And why are you lying to us?” she said.

    To that end, here are just a few of the most democracy-threatening suggestions, verbatim:

    On child labor: “With parental consent and proper training, certain young adults should be allowed to learn and work in more dangerous occupations.”

    On education: “Federal education policy should be limited and, ultimately, the Federal Department of Education should be eliminated.“

    On climate change: “Climate-change research should be disbanded … The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) should be broken up and downsized.”

    On LGBTQ+ rights: “The next secretary should also reverse the Biden Administration’s focus on ‘LGBTQ+ equity,’ subsidizing single-motherhood, disincentivizing work, and penalizing marriage, replacing such policies with those encouraging marriage, work, motherhood, fatherhood, and nuclear families.”

    On families: “Families comprised of a married mother, father, and their children are the foundation of a well-ordered nation and healthy society … The male-female dyad is essential to human nature and … every child has a right to a mother and father.”

    Not to mention several highly publicized recommendations on abortion and women’s rights that are an effort to return to America of the 1950s.

    The architects of and adherents to Project 2025 want a white, heterosexual Christian nation. The ideals of our 250-year-old form of government, in which majority rules, are anathema to them. They want to inflict their beliefs on everyone, representative democracy be damned.

    I cannot state it strongly enough: Project 2025, with Donald Trump at the helm, is the greatest existential threat to American democracy in recent history. And make no mistake, should Trump win in November, he will usher in many if not most of the project’s recommendations.

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    I think he means “we need to flood the zone with ‘shit’.”

    but we were told not to take this seriously, that it wasn’t a real “thing,” and it would never happen? Someone hasn’t been paying attention. Reality, again.
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    How do we know that they’re not really males and there’s nothing weird about what’s going on?
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    teskeinc said:
    I think tRump's people were planting seeds that he was going to pivot and start sounding more like a serious candidate yesterday. I was seeing things pop up on X about how his speech/conference was supposed to be more focused on policy, etc.

    During his speech he even mentioned something like he was supposed to sound "more intellectual" or something to that effect and talk about the economy. That lasted about a minute before he launched into his usual bullshit.

    I think a big shakeup is coming with his campaign. He's either not happy and is going to can someone or the campaign manager is sick of him not listening to him and will quit.

    edit: oddly I just heard that tRump fired his campaign managers in August in both 2016 and 2020...lol
    That’s all he needs to do, but he can’t. All he has to do is focus on the economy and the border. He can’t refrain from attacking candidates personally. Part of it is the response from his crowds when he uses a nickname. But that’s who he is. I’m sure he’s getting advice to stay on this issues, he just can’t help himself. 
    why would you vote for a man that cannot help himself and cannot focus on the single message he has to convey?

    most people would recognize this and be like "i think i will vote for someone else."
    Because I don’t vote on emotions or Good Vibes. Voting for economic reasons and policy. I don’t need a President to be my friend.
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    2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
    2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
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    2020 Phoenix, SD
     
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
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    2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
    2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
    2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
    2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
    2012: EV Vegas 1+2
    2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
    2020 Phoenix, SD
     
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    edited August 15
    If everything was great #1 the Pelosi and Clooney coup wouldn’t have had to pull the OL’ Switcharoo and #2 Trump would have never ran because the country would be doing so great under Biden, he would have had no chance to win like 2012 when Obama was doing a great job.
    Post edited by teskeinc on
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    2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
    2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
    2012: EV Vegas 1+2
    2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
    2020 Phoenix, SD
     
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    lmao are you not aware that economists are saying that the economy will get worse under trump's plans?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    I think tRump's people were planting seeds that he was going to pivot and start sounding more like a serious candidate yesterday. I was seeing things pop up on X about how his speech/conference was supposed to be more focused on policy, etc.

    During his speech he even mentioned something like he was supposed to sound "more intellectual" or something to that effect and talk about the economy. That lasted about a minute before he launched into his usual bullshit.

    I think a big shakeup is coming with his campaign. He's either not happy and is going to can someone or the campaign manager is sick of him not listening to him and will quit.

    edit: oddly I just heard that tRump fired his campaign managers in August in both 2016 and 2020...lol
    That’s all he needs to do, but he can’t. All he has to do is focus on the economy and the border. He can’t refrain from attacking candidates personally. Part of it is the response from his crowds when he uses a nickname. But that’s who he is. I’m sure he’s getting advice to stay on this issues, he just can’t help himself. 
    why would you vote for a man that cannot help himself and cannot focus on the single message he has to convey?

    most people would recognize this and be like "i think i will vote for someone else."
    Because I don’t vote on emotions or Good Vibes. Voting for economic reasons and policy. I don’t need a President to be my friend.
    vote for the asshole then. we do not need your vote.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    if things were so great under trump the first time, wouldn't he have won in 2020?

    he is 0 for 2 on popular vote, having lost by 3 million the first time and nearly 7 million the second time. not trending the way he wants it to for sure.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,718
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    lmao are you not aware that economists are saying that the economy will get worse under trump's plans?
    That isn’t discussed in the wonderful world of MAGA!  
  • njhaley1njhaley1 Posts: 791
    edited August 15
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    lmao are you not aware that economists are saying that the economy will get worse under trump's plans?
    That isn’t discussed in the wonderful world of MAGA!  
    In fact, faux news pulled the djia chiron as soon as dumpster brought up the economy in his pity party today.

    https://x.com/KamalaHQ/status/1824191909524373985

    Squealer and Napoleon need to coordinate a little better. 
    Post edited by njhaley1 on
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    lmao are you not aware that economists are saying that the economy will get worse under trump's plans?
    We lived it for 4 years. There was little inflation. Keep believing leftist spin tho.
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    2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
    2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
    2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
    2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
    2012: EV Vegas 1+2
    2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    lmao are you not aware that economists are saying that the economy will get worse under trump's plans?
    We lived it for 4 years. There was little inflation. Keep believing leftist spin tho.
    why did he lose in 2020?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    teskeinc said:
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    lmao are you not aware that economists are saying that the economy will get worse under trump's plans?
    We lived it for 4 years. There was little inflation. Keep believing leftist spin tho.
    why is he running now in 2024? to stay out of jail, or to actually try to be the president for real this time?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,744
    edited August 15
    What part of the Inflation Reduction Act decreased inflation?

    One guy said “because McDonalds brought back Value Meals” that is a great indicator of our economy…. Yeah, value meals, that’s the benchmark A Moving Train poster use d to establish if an economy is booming. Value Meals! Not ever Happy Meals or McNuggets. Unreal 🙁

    How can you even have a legitimate discussion when someone posts that?
    Post edited by teskeinc on
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    1998 : St Louis, Birmingham, Knoxville
    2000 : Memphis, Nashville, St Louis
    2003 : Irvine 1+2, Vegas, Bridge School 1+2, Santa Barbara
    2005 : Missoula, Vancouver, Gorge 2006 : LA 1+2, Vegas
    2008 : W Palm Beach, Tampa, Who Rock Honors, EV LA 2
    2009 : LA 1, LA 4, EV 1 Nashville 2011 : EV Long Beach
    2012: EV Vegas 1+2
    2013 LA 1+2 2018 Prague, Wrigley 2
    2020 Phoenix, SD
     
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,303
    teskeinc said:
    What part of the Inflation Reduction Act decreased inflation?

    One guy said “because McDonalds brought back Value Meals” that is a great indicator of our economy…. Yeah, value meals, that’s the benchmark A Moving Train poster use d to establish if an economy is booming. Value Meals! Not ever Happy Meals or McNuggets. Unreal 🙁

    How can you even have a legitimate discussion when someone posts that?
    why did trump lose in 2020?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,514
    teskeinc said:
    And that's the question, isn't it?
    "Oh, he can't help himself!" is an excuse that ONLY is valid when referring to an overtired toddler or, perhaps, an elderly person with advanced dementia.
    Do we really want someone with no self-control running the country? Didn't we learn anything last time?
    Would you excuse or defend this behavior in your child? partner? parents? friends?
    We already did, and it was fine. You need your emotions validated. That’s fine. If “Orange man Bad” and “Mean Tweets” are most important, then sure keep voting for Kamala. I’m voting for a better economy and less inflation.
    Sorry but you have to add I’m voting for a rapist an adulterer a failed businessman a liar a racist! You can’t separate him into slices as if you’re eating a plate of food and you put the vegetables to the side because you don’t like them! At least own your whole vote not just part of it carry on 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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