The Official 2025 Tour Rumor Thread
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I'm going to keep an eye on Grammys related media items. List of performers is drip dripping and expected to grow in the coming days. So far, PJ are not on it.#Grievance20250
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I fuking hate pikeys!0
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Which page is Rob referring to, could be said for all FB PJ gages and groups.0
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Brisk. said:Which page is Rob referring to, could be said for all FB PJ gages and groups.2005: Ottawa / 2011: Ottawa / 2016: Ottawa / 2022: Ottawa / 2022:Quebec City / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: Vancouver / 2024: New York City0
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rey said:ally12 said:kaw753 said:Go Animal said:kaw753 said:Can someone who knows some people request that we get the Ohana line-up (and ideally anymore tour dates) before the tour starts? Two nights at Ohana tops anything but a show in my hometown.0
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Put your trust in the lord. Your ass belongs to me.
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You know what the Mexicans say about the Pacific?
To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
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They say it has no memory.
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I’d like you all to know that this thread inspired me to rewatch Shawshank last night for the first time in several years. It never gets old. “Remember hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.”0
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Who is gonna be the first to bring in a creepy quote from Bogs, hahaAppeared to be an animal, yet so polite.0
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kaw753 said:Go Animal said:
To each their own, but Lenny Kravitz had a few hits 25 years ago. Cool, how is this still an arena act? There are 15000 people in St. Louis paying $100 to see him? Seriously?
I should get back to work.
There are plenty of people who go to Pearl Jam shows who have the same mindset, by the way. Sure, Pearl Jam was bigger than Lenny Kravitz was, but he was big enough.
The thing about Kravitz that always strikes me is that he seems to belong to the small club of artists that institutions love to turn to when it's time for award shows, Grammy tributes, Rock Hall induction ceremonies, etc. Kravitz, H.E.R., John Legend and Dave Grohl all come to mind. I swear H.E.R. has been trotted out to play more national anthems than any artist in recent memory. From her anthem profile, you'd think she was one of the biggest stars of our time.I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
PrezIntense said:
Someone traveling from another country (which is exactly the person travel advisories are aimed at) likely going to a major city where there are undoubtedly people who will see them as potential victims -- this isn't conjecture it's demonstrably true. You hand waving over this and assuming someone living in suburbia has the same probability of being a victim as somebody visiting LA or NYC or Atlanta etc is just head-in-sand BS.
And rural areas are a lot less safe than you think they are. You can look up data on all of this. I'll just give you this, for context about safety today in New York:Murders, 1990: 2,262
Murders, 2021: 488
DECLINE: 78.4 percent
Rapes, 1990: 3,126
Rapes, 2021: 1,491
DECLINE: 52.3 percent
Robberies, 1990: 100,280
Robberies, 2021: 13,831
DECLINE: 86.2 percent
Felony Assaults, 1990: 44,122
Felony Assaults, 2021: 22,835
DECLINE: 48.2 percent
Burglaries, 1990: 122,055
Burglaries, 2021: 12,811
DECLINE: 89.5 percent
Grand Larcenies, 1990: 108,487
Grand Larcenies, 2021: 40,870
DECLINE: 62.3 percent
Grand Larcenies, Auto, 1990: 146,925
Grand Larcenies, Auto, 2021: 10,415
DECLINE: 92.9 percent
Source: https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs-en-us-city.pdf
If you want to look at other, less serious crimes, you’ll see the same phenomenon looking back to the year 2000. See https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/historical-crime-data/non-seven-major-felony-offenses-2000-2021.pdf.
It is an unfortunate phenomenon in our society that, even as crime has generally steadily declined over the past 30 years, large numbers of people have consistently believed that crime rates are increasing or at all-time highs. There are at least a couple of reasons for this. One reason is the sensationalistic and disproportionate coverage of crime on local television news and, in New York’s case, by the tabloid newspapers. Another reason is that it is very easy for politicians to exploit people’s fear of crime to get them to vote. Scaring suburban voters about purportedly out-of-control crime in Democratic-controlled cities has been a linchpin strategy of Republican politicians for decades. Even here in L.A., recent mayoral candidate Rick Caruso said in a debate that “everyone in L.A. is scared to leave the house” because of crime. It was an absurd claim-- especially since he had people walking around in L.A. neighborhoods canvassing for him-- but there are a lot of people for whom hearing that from a would-be leader reinforces their belief that crime actually is historically high when it’s actually historically low.
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I l🥰ve Saturday mornings!! 🕊️💕🌸0
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So far the 2025 version of the tour rumor thread is my least favorite by a wide margin0
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runstaples said:Who is gonna be the first to bring in a creepy quote from Bogs, hahapjl44 said:So far the 2025 version of the tour rumor thread is my least favorite by a wide margin
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Haha, well playedAppeared to be an animal, yet so polite.0
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BF25394 said:PrezIntense said:
Someone traveling from another country (which is exactly the person travel advisories are aimed at) likely going to a major city where there are undoubtedly people who will see them as potential victims -- this isn't conjecture it's demonstrably true. You hand waving over this and assuming someone living in suburbia has the same probability of being a victim as somebody visiting LA or NYC or Atlanta etc is just head-in-sand BS.
And rural areas are a lot less safe than you think they are. You can look up data on all of this. I'll just give you this, for context about safety today in New York:Murders, 1990: 2,262
Murders, 2021: 488
DECLINE: 78.4 percent
Rapes, 1990: 3,126
Rapes, 2021: 1,491
DECLINE: 52.3 percent
Robberies, 1990: 100,280
Robberies, 2021: 13,831
DECLINE: 86.2 percent
Felony Assaults, 1990: 44,122
Felony Assaults, 2021: 22,835
DECLINE: 48.2 percent
Burglaries, 1990: 122,055
Burglaries, 2021: 12,811
DECLINE: 89.5 percent
Grand Larcenies, 1990: 108,487
Grand Larcenies, 2021: 40,870
DECLINE: 62.3 percent
Grand Larcenies, Auto, 1990: 146,925
Grand Larcenies, Auto, 2021: 10,415
DECLINE: 92.9 percent
Source: https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs-en-us-city.pdf
If you want to look at other, less serious crimes, you’ll see the same phenomenon looking back to the year 2000. See https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/historical-crime-data/non-seven-major-felony-offenses-2000-2021.pdf.
It is an unfortunate phenomenon in our society that, even as crime has generally steadily declined over the past 30 years, large numbers of people have consistently believed that crime rates are increasing or at all-time highs. There are at least a couple of reasons for this. One reason is the sensationalistic and disproportionate coverage of crime on local television news and, in New York’s case, by the tabloid newspapers. Another reason is that it is very easy for politicians to exploit people’s fear of crime to get them to vote. Scaring suburban voters about purportedly out-of-control crime in Democratic-controlled cities has been a linchpin strategy of Republican politicians for decades. Even here in L.A., recent mayoral candidate Rick Caruso said in a debate that “everyone in L.A. is scared to leave the house” because of crime. It was an absurd claim-- especially since he had people walking around in L.A. neighborhoods canvassing for him-- but there are a lot of people for whom hearing that from a would-be leader reinforces their belief that crime actually is historically high when it’s actually historically low.
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Now we're talking about rapes and murders in the tour rumor thread? Time to tune out.0
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"A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory0 -
If Montreal and Toronto were considered for this May, you gotta assume they’re not gonna wait until 2026. No hockey and basketball in September. Gonna maintain Montreal x2, Toronto x2, Detroit x2, Milwaukee or Alpine x2, Kansas City or Denver x2, Gorge x22003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x20
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