Running is out !

beano.79

F Me In The Brain said:

Why do some people get off on telling others to go away.  Very odd. 
Obviously they love Pearl Jam or they would not be here
You don't have to love recent music to love the band
  You also don't have to love the last album to be super excited to see your favorite band live, and to want good access to tickets, and to want to see your friends on tour.
Fuck.

 This is why on a forum dedicated to my favourite band, the place I like the most is a thread about running 😂

The rest is constant bickering... From all sides 

Tjm007

jesselms said:

I don't post often but felt compelled after hearing running. Running feels more like a B side or at best just a filler album song. Seems an odd choice, by far the shortest song on the album 

Merkinball is the only PJ release without a filler track.

i am a target

Tjm007 said:

jesselms said:

I don't post often but felt compelled after hearing running. Running feels more like a B side or at best just a filler album song. Seems an odd choice, by far the shortest song on the album 

Merkinball is the only PJ release without a filler track.

Binaural has no filler. I'll assume you argue that 'Soon Forget' is filler, but I completely disagree. I think it fits the theme of the album perfectly.

Tjm007

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

jesselms said:

I don't post often but felt compelled after hearing running. Running feels more like a B side or at best just a filler album song. Seems an odd choice, by far the shortest song on the album 

Merkinball is the only PJ release without a filler track.

Binaural has no filler. I'll assume you argue that 'Soon Forget' is filler, but I completely disagree. I think it fits the theme of the album perfectly.

Sleight of hand is not in my top 200 PJ songs. SF is dog food.

Probably their most underrated album though - Thin Air and Rival are absolute diamonds.

i am a target

Tjm007 said:

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

jesselms said:

I don't post often but felt compelled after hearing running. Running feels more like a B side or at best just a filler album song. Seems an odd choice, by far the shortest song on the album 

Merkinball is the only PJ release without a filler track.

Binaural has no filler. I'll assume you argue that 'Soon Forget' is filler, but I completely disagree. I think it fits the theme of the album perfectly.

Sleight of hand is not in my top 200 PJ songs. SF is dog food.

Probably their most underrated album though - Thin Air and Rival are absolute diamonds.

Heh, I consider 'Slight of Hand' to be one of their best songs, but then again Binaural is my favorite Pearl Jam album. The ever-so-slight edge that it has over Yield is 'Wishlist' has never been a favorite of mine (having to hear it live every time I've seen them and then suffering through a 'jam' on that song has left me with PTSD).

My 'dog food' songs are 'Sirens' 'Just Breathe' and 'The End' - basically any breathy Ed songs that plague every album from Avocado onward.

Tjm007

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

jesselms said:

I don't post often but felt compelled after hearing running. Running feels more like a B side or at best just a filler album song. Seems an odd choice, by far the shortest song on the album 

Merkinball is the only PJ release without a filler track.

Binaural has no filler. I'll assume you argue that 'Soon Forget' is filler, but I completely disagree. I think it fits the theme of the album perfectly.

Sleight of hand is not in my top 200 PJ songs. SF is dog food.

Probably their most underrated album though - Thin Air and Rival are absolute diamonds.

My 'dog food' songs are 'Sirens' 'Just Breathe' and 'The End' - basically any breathy Ed songs that plague every album from Avocado onward.

Add the last quarter of Gigaton to that list.

i am a target

Tjm007 said:

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

jesselms said:

I don't post often but felt compelled after hearing running. Running feels more like a B side or at best just a filler album song. Seems an odd choice, by far the shortest song on the album 

Merkinball is the only PJ release without a filler track.

Binaural has no filler. I'll assume you argue that 'Soon Forget' is filler, but I completely disagree. I think it fits the theme of the album perfectly.

Sleight of hand is not in my top 200 PJ songs. SF is dog food.

Probably their most underrated album though - Thin Air and Rival are absolute diamonds.

My 'dog food' songs are 'Sirens' 'Just Breathe' and 'The End' - basically any breathy Ed songs that plague every album from Avocado onward.

Add the last quarter of Gigaton to that list.

I don't consider 'Comes Then Goes' a dud. I'm not sure where to place that one to be honest. It's just such a heartbreaking song and I get why Ed would have wanted it on there. The rest of them? No argument from me. Pretty much par for the course. Avocado onward they're usually only food for half an album (minus Backspacer, which I might have listened to once).

BF25394

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

jesselms said:

I don't post often but felt compelled after hearing running. Running feels more like a B side or at best just a filler album song. Seems an odd choice, by far the shortest song on the album 

Merkinball is the only PJ release without a filler track.

Binaural has no filler. I'll assume you argue that 'Soon Forget' is filler, but I completely disagree. I think it fits the theme of the album perfectly.

Sleight of hand is not in my top 200 PJ songs. SF is dog food.

Probably their most underrated album though - Thin Air and Rival are absolute diamonds.

Heh, I consider 'Slight of Hand' to be one of their best songs, but then again Binaural is my favorite Pearl Jam album. The ever-so-slight edge that it has over Yield is 'Wishlist' has never been a favorite of mine (having to hear it live every time I've seen them and then suffering through a 'jam' on that song has left me with PTSD).

My 'dog food' songs are 'Sirens' 'Just Breathe' and 'The End' - basically any breathy Ed songs that plague every album from Avocado onward.

"Slight of Hand"-- is that about a man with very small hands? I can think of someone Pearl Jam might write that song about...

BF25394

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

jesselms said:

I don't post often but felt compelled after hearing running. Running feels more like a B side or at best just a filler album song. Seems an odd choice, by far the shortest song on the album 

Merkinball is the only PJ release without a filler track.

Binaural has no filler. I'll assume you argue that 'Soon Forget' is filler, but I completely disagree. I think it fits the theme of the album perfectly.

A song entirely on ukulele featuring only one member of the band is pretty much the definition of filler.

bootlegger10

Tjm007 said:

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

jesselms said:

I don't post often but felt compelled after hearing running. Running feels more like a B side or at best just a filler album song. Seems an odd choice, by far the shortest song on the album 

Merkinball is the only PJ release without a filler track.

Binaural has no filler. I'll assume you argue that 'Soon Forget' is filler, but I completely disagree. I think it fits the theme of the album perfectly.

Sleight of hand is not in my top 200 PJ songs. SF is dog food.

Probably their most underrated album though - Thin Air and Rival are absolute diamonds.

Sleight of Hand isn't in the Top 200 and Thin Air is a diamond? Sleight of Hand is much more interesting of a song. Soon Forget was good at the time, but then we got an avalanche of Uke songs over the next 10 years.

i am a target

BF25394 said:

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

jesselms said:

I don't post often but felt compelled after hearing running. Running feels more like a B side or at best just a filler album song. Seems an odd choice, by far the shortest song on the album 

Merkinball is the only PJ release without a filler track.

Binaural has no filler. I'll assume you argue that 'Soon Forget' is filler, but I completely disagree. I think it fits the theme of the album perfectly.

A song entirely on ukulele featuring only one member of the band is pretty much the definition of filler.

That’s an oddly specific definition of ‘filler’. 

F Me In The Brain

beano.79 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Why do some people get off on telling others to go away.  Very odd. 
Obviously they love Pearl Jam or they would not be here
You don't have to love recent music to love the band
  You also don't have to love the last album to be super excited to see your favorite band live, and to want good access to tickets, and to want to see your friends on tour.
Fuck.

 This is why on a forum dedicated to my favourite band, the place I like the most is a thread about running 😂

The rest is constant bickering... From all sides 

Amen, brother!
We all love this band!

TheBeardedFellow

I like Running more than I like Dark Matter, right now. I just wish Ed was higher up in the mix *shrugs*

devonfz

If you had a top twenty of Post yield songs thin air parting ways light years rival def in there for me 

CO278952

BF25394 said:

jonbond1779 said:

Listening back to Avocado & even Lightening Bolt, the vocals so far on the 2 tracks released for Dark Matter are quite muffled in the mix.  Running is ok, quite WWS-esque but not as good.

so far Dark Matter > Running

I honestly have not found the vocals muffled at all once I saw the lyrics to each song.

I suspect the mastering of the track is contributing to the varying reactions regarding the mix. In my experience listening to it, it sounds poorly mixed with vocals too low on some speakers and totally fine on others.  Regardless of that, the drive of the song is good and I like the distorted bass and drumming. Hands down the bridge is the best part of the song, similar to how the bridge of Pilate is better than the rest of the song. 

CO278952

lastexitlondon said:

nicknyr15 said:

lastexitlondon said:

Funny the more I listen the more I don't like it. I like the bit where is slows but apart from that. Not sure

Same. And even the bridge sounds unoriginal to me. Like I’ve heard it already somewhere on earthlings. Hoping it’s one of the worst songs on the album. I’d be cool with that. Probably wouldn’t even skip it because it’s so short 

Yeah earthlings is what I feel with that part too

I get the Earthling vibe also due to the “lift off” lyric and due to the similar sounding production. 

i am a target

CO278952 said:

BF25394 said:

jonbond1779 said:

Listening back to Avocado & even Lightening Bolt, the vocals so far on the 2 tracks released for Dark Matter are quite muffled in the mix.  Running is ok, quite WWS-esque but not as good.

so far Dark Matter > Running

I honestly have not found the vocals muffled at all once I saw the lyrics to each song.

I suspect the mastering of the track is contributing to the varying reactions regarding the mix. In my experience listening to it, it sounds poorly mixed with vocals too low on some speakers and totally fine on others.  Regardless of that, the drive of the song is good and I like the distorted bass and drumming. Hands down the bridge is the best part of the song, similar to how the bridge of Pilate is better than the rest of the song. 

I was shocked at the difference in the quality between Spotify and Apple Music. On Apple Music the song is much more crisp and Ed’s vocals are much more clear. 

BF25394

i am a target said:

BF25394 said:

i am a target said:

Tjm007 said:

jesselms said:

I don't post often but felt compelled after hearing running. Running feels more like a B side or at best just a filler album song. Seems an odd choice, by far the shortest song on the album 

Merkinball is the only PJ release without a filler track.

Binaural has no filler. I'll assume you argue that 'Soon Forget' is filler, but I completely disagree. I think it fits the theme of the album perfectly.

A song entirely on ukulele featuring only one member of the band is pretty much the definition of filler.

That’s an oddly specific definition of ‘filler’. 

Well, I guess I would support the definition by asking for an example of a song entirely on ukulele performed by only one member of a rock band that *isn't* filler...

BF25394

i am a target said:

CO278952 said:

BF25394 said:

jonbond1779 said:

Listening back to Avocado & even Lightening Bolt, the vocals so far on the 2 tracks released for Dark Matter are quite muffled in the mix.  Running is ok, quite WWS-esque but not as good.

so far Dark Matter > Running

I honestly have not found the vocals muffled at all once I saw the lyrics to each song.

I suspect the mastering of the track is contributing to the varying reactions regarding the mix. In my experience listening to it, it sounds poorly mixed with vocals too low on some speakers and totally fine on others.  Regardless of that, the drive of the song is good and I like the distorted bass and drumming. Hands down the bridge is the best part of the song, similar to how the bridge of Pilate is better than the rest of the song. 

I was shocked at the difference in the quality between Spotify and Apple Music. On Apple Music the song is much more crisp and Ed’s vocals are much more clear. 

I've been listening to "Dark Matter" pretty much exclusively on a CD that I burned from the download that came with the 7-inch, and it sounds very crisp. Most of my consumption of "Running" has been on that foreign YouTube-like site that someone linked to here when the song was only live in New Zealand, and it was also really sharp.

oftenreading

i am a target said:

CO278952 said:

BF25394 said:

jonbond1779 said:

Listening back to Avocado & even Lightening Bolt, the vocals so far on the 2 tracks released for Dark Matter are quite muffled in the mix.  Running is ok, quite WWS-esque but not as good.

so far Dark Matter > Running

I honestly have not found the vocals muffled at all once I saw the lyrics to each song.

I suspect the mastering of the track is contributing to the varying reactions regarding the mix. In my experience listening to it, it sounds poorly mixed with vocals too low on some speakers and totally fine on others.  Regardless of that, the drive of the song is good and I like the distorted bass and drumming. Hands down the bridge is the best part of the song, similar to how the bridge of Pilate is better than the rest of the song. 

I was shocked at the difference in the quality between Spotify and Apple Music. On Apple Music the song is much more crisp and Ed’s vocals are much more clear. 

Could you explain what accounts for the difference (in a way that will make sense for a very much non-audiophile)? I would have assumed that the digital file available on all of these different streaming services would be the same and that the differences would only come from the audio equipment used to play it.