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Baltimore is the most egregious example of Ticketmaster manipulating the market with false scarcity of the tour so far. At least with the west coast and ball park shows most people figured this would happen. And while msg and Philly 1 ended up being available in the days before the show, you could still at least easily sell your tickets back. Even Philly 2 was easy to sell tickets back if you had pretty good seats. 

After this tour, I will never put in for fan club tickets again outside of msg or a weekend Philly show, and I will never waste my time playing the stupid f2f game for months leading up to the show. What a joke. We all look like suckers.

"We all look like suckers" is nonsense. A lot of us knew from past tours that playing the F2F game for months was a huge waste of time. Always the most bang for your buck during the last week. I dumped my mediocre Baltimore tickets weeks ago because it was obvious from the relatively low-priced premium drops, which weren't instant sellouts, that there could be a glut of tickets at the end. Fan club lottery is useful for a chance at GA and possibly if you have a super low number, but is otherwise a waste of time. I dumped my fan club tickets immediately the past two years 

Nonsense? Give me a break. You’ve been all over this thread and poaching tickets since the tour started. You know as well as I do that the f2f drops were much harder to get on this tour than in the past. I couldn’t even get you to drop me a pair of nosebleeds you scored for Philly 1 which was well over a month, maybe 2, before the show. You must just love wasting your time I guess. If you were so certain the markets were going to flood like this, why were you even buying uppers on f2f? Do you just like to let Ticketmaster temporarily hold onto your money, or is it credit card points you’re doing it for? Either way, get real. You may have had a hunch, but you certainly didn’t know Baltimore would end up in this situation. Regardless of what any of us know or don’t know, the system is shady af and should not be legal. Probably isn’t legal, but Ticketmaster has everyone by the balls, so what can you do?

It is nonsense. I wound up with GA for every show on this leg. And I'm far from the only one. How does that make us all look like suckers? True, I had to rely on several trades to get there instead of straight F2F scores like in the past. What I didn't do was waste my time refreshing a page for hours months before a show hoping a golden ticket would magically fall in my lap at the exact moment I hit refresh. That's never been a winning strategy. Day before the show you'll have better luck. And it was pretty obvious to me around the time of the Chicago shows that this is where Baltimore was headed. You say TM has you by the balls but no one is forcing you to buy. The same patterns hold up again and again. Don't buy into the market manipulation and be rewarded. It's simple 

Fair enough. I don’t really believe that you didn’t spend any time checking on tickets throughout the tour….but that’s not the point.

The point is that the business model that Ticketmaster is using to sell tickets is completely unethical. Blaming fans for getting stuck with tickets because they aren’t as enlightened as you are about how all of this works just misses the point. My comments were never about you or any other fans here.

SHZA

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Baltimore is the most egregious example of Ticketmaster manipulating the market with false scarcity of the tour so far. At least with the west coast and ball park shows most people figured this would happen. And while msg and Philly 1 ended up being available in the days before the show, you could still at least easily sell your tickets back. Even Philly 2 was easy to sell tickets back if you had pretty good seats. 

After this tour, I will never put in for fan club tickets again outside of msg or a weekend Philly show, and I will never waste my time playing the stupid f2f game for months leading up to the show. What a joke. We all look like suckers.

"We all look like suckers" is nonsense. A lot of us knew from past tours that playing the F2F game for months was a huge waste of time. Always the most bang for your buck during the last week. I dumped my mediocre Baltimore tickets weeks ago because it was obvious from the relatively low-priced premium drops, which weren't instant sellouts, that there could be a glut of tickets at the end. Fan club lottery is useful for a chance at GA and possibly if you have a super low number, but is otherwise a waste of time. I dumped my fan club tickets immediately the past two years 

Nonsense? Give me a break. You’ve been all over this thread and poaching tickets since the tour started. You know as well as I do that the f2f drops were much harder to get on this tour than in the past. I couldn’t even get you to drop me a pair of nosebleeds you scored for Philly 1 which was well over a month, maybe 2, before the show. You must just love wasting your time I guess. If you were so certain the markets were going to flood like this, why were you even buying uppers on f2f? Do you just like to let Ticketmaster temporarily hold onto your money, or is it credit card points you’re doing it for? Either way, get real. You may have had a hunch, but you certainly didn’t know Baltimore would end up in this situation. Regardless of what any of us know or don’t know, the system is shady af and should not be legal. Probably isn’t legal, but Ticketmaster has everyone by the balls, so what can you do?

It is nonsense. I wound up with GA for every show on this leg. And I'm far from the only one. How does that make us all look like suckers? True, I had to rely on several trades to get there instead of straight F2F scores like in the past. What I didn't do was waste my time refreshing a page for hours months before a show hoping a golden ticket would magically fall in my lap at the exact moment I hit refresh. That's never been a winning strategy. Day before the show you'll have better luck. And it was pretty obvious to me around the time of the Chicago shows that this is where Baltimore was headed. You say TM has you by the balls but no one is forcing you to buy. The same patterns hold up again and again. Don't buy into the market manipulation and be rewarded. It's simple 

Fair enough. I don’t really believe that you didn’t spend any time checking on tickets throughout the tour….but that’s not the point.

The point is that the business model that Ticketmaster is using to sell tickets is completely unethical. Blaming fans for getting stuck with tickets because they aren’t as enlightened as you are about how all of this works just misses the point. My comments were never about you or any other fans here.

Fair. However, in my view, complaining about the system and wishing it was illegal is pointless. Maybe it feels good to vent? It's the system that we have and most likely are stuck with. Figure out how to get the most out of it 

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HailHailVitalogy said:

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SHZA said:

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Baltimore is the most egregious example of Ticketmaster manipulating the market with false scarcity of the tour so far. At least with the west coast and ball park shows most people figured this would happen. And while msg and Philly 1 ended up being available in the days before the show, you could still at least easily sell your tickets back. Even Philly 2 was easy to sell tickets back if you had pretty good seats. 

After this tour, I will never put in for fan club tickets again outside of msg or a weekend Philly show, and I will never waste my time playing the stupid f2f game for months leading up to the show. What a joke. We all look like suckers.

"We all look like suckers" is nonsense. A lot of us knew from past tours that playing the F2F game for months was a huge waste of time. Always the most bang for your buck during the last week. I dumped my mediocre Baltimore tickets weeks ago because it was obvious from the relatively low-priced premium drops, which weren't instant sellouts, that there could be a glut of tickets at the end. Fan club lottery is useful for a chance at GA and possibly if you have a super low number, but is otherwise a waste of time. I dumped my fan club tickets immediately the past two years 

Nonsense? Give me a break. You’ve been all over this thread and poaching tickets since the tour started. You know as well as I do that the f2f drops were much harder to get on this tour than in the past. I couldn’t even get you to drop me a pair of nosebleeds you scored for Philly 1 which was well over a month, maybe 2, before the show. You must just love wasting your time I guess. If you were so certain the markets were going to flood like this, why were you even buying uppers on f2f? Do you just like to let Ticketmaster temporarily hold onto your money, or is it credit card points you’re doing it for? Either way, get real. You may have had a hunch, but you certainly didn’t know Baltimore would end up in this situation. Regardless of what any of us know or don’t know, the system is shady af and should not be legal. Probably isn’t legal, but Ticketmaster has everyone by the balls, so what can you do?

He said flood for Baltimore. Dude you’re so rude lol. Stop belittling everyone on here.
Lottery is still worth it for GA and the hard shows. It’ll be funny when they change the ticketing procedures next year and you didn’t enter the lottery. 

I didn’t enter the lottery this year. Doesn’t seem to make a difference. I made it to all of the shows I wanted to. But a lot of people have gotten screwed over by ticketmasters market manipulation, and blaming the victims because they know less than others is not really helpful.

HailHailVitalogy

HailHailVitalogy said:

Will Venmo you back $80 if you buy the single in Section 123, Row Y for tonight

Bump 😃 

danofun

Tons of F2F tickets available for tonight. Most good ones look to be old Premiums. Did TM sell out of all the standards or did they just take them down only to eventually bring them back and undercut F2F?

AlaG

danofun said:

Tons of F2F tickets available for tonight. Most good ones look to be old Premiums. Did TM sell out of all the standards or did they just take them down only to eventually bring them back and undercut F2F?

If the premium tickets don't sell at premium prices they eventually become "standard tickets". Of all of the ways Ticketmaster is malicious, I don't think this is one. Just selling inventory. Worth noting too that you can filter out these tickets by selecting that you only want to see face value exchange ones, and vice versa.

danofun

AlaG said:

danofun said:

Tons of F2F tickets available for tonight. Most good ones look to be old Premiums. Did TM sell out of all the standards or did they just take them down only to eventually bring them back and undercut F2F?

If the premium tickets don't sell at premium prices they eventually become "standard tickets". Of all of the ways Ticketmaster is malicious, I don't think this is one. Just selling inventory. Worth noting too that you can filter out these tickets by selecting that you only want to see face value exchange ones, and vice versa.

looks like they've dropped them to standard. I must have looked at the perfect time as all that was showing were F2F tickets.

mojo10

Some friends cannot make it to both shows at Fenway, so selling a Turf pair to each show.

Want to sell to someone here. Could meet up, but would be easier to sell F2F. DM me please.

AlaG

mojo10 said:

Some friends cannot make it to both shows at Fenway, so selling a Turf pair to each show.

Want to sell to someone here. Could meet up, but would be easier to sell F2F. DM me please.

F2F is closed for Fenway :(

mojo10

D'oh!

SHZA

ekim997 said:

Nearly $700 floor seats just added. Yeah they’ll sell…

Looks like they sold 

JE224127

No more queue for tonight’s tickets

F Me In The Brain

What a fucking scam.  
Lol
I'll walk someone in for 100 per seat.  

SP218311

mojo10 said:

Some friends cannot make it to both shows at Fenway, so selling a Turf pair to each show.

Want to sell to someone here. Could meet up, but would be easier to sell F2F. DM me please.

Sent you a DM. Thanks!

SHZA

And that's a wrap on Fan to Fan 2024! See y'all next year 🙌🏻

OceansJenny

Good riddance 

F Me In The Brain

This system is the worst
  Every angle is worse.  
I don't care, I'm here, but to think they find this better is funny

Hope everyone got to see some great shows!

danlee1095

SHZA said:

And that's a wrap on Fan to Fan 2024! See y'all next year 🙌🏻

And what a journey it was!  We learned a lot, made some new friends and at the end of the day, saw some amazing shows!  See some of you in Boston!

HailHailVitalogy

Last night was the conclusion of my tour, and I still found myself opening up the TM app first thing this morning 😂 So happy I’m done
Great job this year everybody!

Sugarloafer04

Good riddance to the 2024 F2F exchange! PJ needs to introduce tiered pricing and bring back GA only preference in the lottery options.