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    SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 3,220
    rival9500 said:
    it really is gross how many PJ Premium tickets there are. Way more than last year it seems.
    Could mean that the fans have learned from last year not to buy 
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    rival9500rival9500 Posts: 543
    SHZA said:
    rival9500 said:
    it really is gross how many PJ Premium tickets there are. Way more than last year it seems.
    Could mean that the fans have learned from last year not to buy 
    I hope that’s it.
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    ekwiptekwipt Vancouver Posts: 362
    rival9500 said:
    it really is gross how many PJ Premium tickets there are. Way more than last year it seems.
    Feels especially gross that better seats are being sold this way than were awarded to relatively high seniority 10club lottery winners. 
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    goldenegggoldenegg Posts: 367
    SHZA said:
    rival9500 said:
    it really is gross how many PJ Premium tickets there are. Way more than last year it seems.
    Could mean that the fans have learned from last year not to buy 
    Vegas, Seattle and NYC are nearly sold out. So people are buying. It will ultimately vary by city. The more popular shows are going to have most (if not all) of their premium tickets sold. There are typically more people in those cities with significant amounts of disposable income, so the prices are fine for them.
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    BF25394BF25394 Posts: 3,350
    goldenegg said:
    SHZA said:
    rival9500 said:
    it really is gross how many PJ Premium tickets there are. Way more than last year it seems.
    Could mean that the fans have learned from last year not to buy 
    Vegas, Seattle and NYC are nearly sold out. So people are buying. It will ultimately vary by city. The more popular shows are going to have most (if not all) of their premium tickets sold. There are typically more people in those cities with significant amounts of disposable income, so the prices are fine for them.
    Don't assume that because tickets are not showing as available on the site right now that they are sold. Delisting unsold tickets is one of the methods Ticketmaster uses to create artificial scarcity that drives people to make purchases out of fear that they'll miss out if they don't act right now.
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    spankyMPspankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 1,189
    BF25394 said:
    goldenegg said:
    SHZA said:
    rival9500 said:
    it really is gross how many PJ Premium tickets there are. Way more than last year it seems.
    Could mean that the fans have learned from last year not to buy 
    Vegas, Seattle and NYC are nearly sold out. So people are buying. It will ultimately vary by city. The more popular shows are going to have most (if not all) of their premium tickets sold. There are typically more people in those cities with significant amounts of disposable income, so the prices are fine for them.
    Don't assume that because tickets are not showing as available on the site right now that they are sold. Delisting unsold tickets is one of the methods Ticketmaster uses to create artificial scarcity that drives people to make purchases out of fear that they'll miss out if they don't act right now.
    Absolutely!
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    SHZASHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 3,220
    edited February 24
    goldenegg said:
    SHZA said:
    rival9500 said:
    it really is gross how many PJ Premium tickets there are. Way more than last year it seems.
    Could mean that the fans have learned from last year not to buy 
    Vegas, Seattle and NYC are nearly sold out. So people are buying. It will ultimately vary by city. The more popular shows are going to have most (if not all) of their premium tickets sold. There are typically more people in those cities with significant amounts of disposable income, so the prices are fine for them.
    Then those shows are not consistent with the theory that there is a "gross" amount of premium tickets 
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,248
    SHZA said:
    BF25394 said:
    SHZA said:
    The band agreed to that arrangement. TM doesn't own the tickets, they just collect a fee for selling them 
    Isn't this understating the situation? Ticketmaster is a subsidiary of Live Nation Entertainment, which has something approaching a monopoly on the kind of venues that Pearl Jam is looking to play. Yes, Pearl Jam could choose to play only venues that are not owned or operated by Live Nation, but it would probably mean they wouldn't be able to play the biggest and best venues. When they attempted to play alternative venues in 1995 to avoid having to deal with Ticketmaster, it was rife with problems. They're kind of damned if they do and damned if they don't. Imagine if Pearl Jam didn't have the clout they have. There would be no tickets set aside for Ten Club members. They'd be set aside for Citi or AmEx cardholders and the like.
    Just stating facts in response to the OP's suggestion that it is TM that decides to charge $500. It takes two to tango. No doubt it is a challenge to push back against TM's preferences, but the Cure showed that bands don't absolutely have to opt in to premium pricing. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with PJ's decision to do so, just pointing out that the premise that TM alone is calling the shots is not quite accurate. 
    And Robert Smith in his statement announcing the tour and its logistics said basically he didn't need to make as much money from the tour as he possibly could. He was making a very reasonable wage and not looking to gouge his fans for every last nickel. Something any artist could do, but a very select few opt to do.
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