Wrigley GA line questions

NewfieintheUSA

SHZA said:

Kwieneke said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Kwieneke said:

i got GA for wrigley 1 but I am afraid I wont get there in time for a good spot, plus my girlfriend is really short so we need to be pretty close to the front 

In 2016 we had GA and got there around 10am. We ended up 5 people deep on Mikes side. My wife is short (5'2") but she enjoyed it.

You can always show up close to show time and just hang in the back of the pit as well

thanks for the advice. definitely may weigh my options regarding keeping GA or trading for good seats. I'd be pretty selective. On the other hand, Ive never had GA and would be mad I gave it up 

For my money, GA in an arena is a far better experience than at Wrigley. The pit is just so huge that even lining up well before doors I felt pretty far away from the stage 

I agree with this as well. But seats at Wrigley are all far away

Kwieneke

Kwieneke said:

i got GA for wrigley 1 but I am afraid I wont get there in time for a good spot, plus my girlfriend is really short so we need to be pretty close to the front 

all feedback is appreciated from those who have done it!

mace1229

Chrrie said:

mace1229 said:

Chrrie said:

I think at this point anyone trying for a spot on the rail should just assume that a line will be formed somewhere, usually 24+ hours before the show, despite the venue or anyone else saying you can’t line up. There’s only been a few exceptions that I can recall over the past 2 years, Camden and Oakland being two. 

I always thought that was dumb. An official unofficial start to a line that doesn't start until the next day. I've never lined up for GA so maybe my presumptions are off, but it always came across to me as the cool kids saying they're the line while getting to hang out somewhere else then bully people into not following the actual written rules. I say that because of the stories I've read of people who actually did follow the rules and lined up at the correct time, then being yelled at by people in the made up pre-line and forced to move back. 

The problem is there will always need to be a line because of the amount of people who show up and want to be on the rail. If a venue says they don’t allow queuing until say, 8am the day of the show, what are those 50-75 people doing at 7:59? Does everyone stay in their cars or on the sidewalk across the street until exactly 8am and then run as fast as they can to the “official” line? Of course not, one would think you would line up in the order that you arrived and wait until the venue tells you to come over. But more people than you’d think are willing to arrive a day early to make sure they are in the front of the line. 

I understand the need for it. But the problem is those who aren't active in social media or whatever venue used to spread the word dont know, will hang out in some other dive bar. The when the official time starts they get told they were hanging out and drinking in the wrong place by some other unofficial dude who was just hanging out and drinking all night with his friends. Say the second group had 10 people with them, whose to say which is the official preline then?  I'd be pissed if I hung out all night at some other bar, just to be told by some dude that I hung out in the wrong bar and I need to move to the end of the line just because he's in more facebook groups than me. 

mace1229

SHZA said:

jimjam1982 said:

The beauty of unofficial lines is if you can beat them to the gate you win.  

Except the official venue security will honor the unofficial line based on unofficial instructions from the band, or the line will browbeat those who follow the rules about how unfair it would be for the line members not to be first after camping out for two days 

I've never heard about security honoring an unofficial line. But I have seen the band post in the past that there is no such thing as a pre-line and no pre-line ups will be honored at GA.

Chrrie

Kwieneke said:

Kwieneke said:

i got GA for wrigley 1 but I am afraid I wont get there in time for a good spot, plus my girlfriend is really short so we need to be pretty close to the front 

all feedback is appreciated from those who have done it!

I don’t know what Wrigley will be like but there were 100 people already in line by 8am the day of the last four Texas shows. Wrigley’s pit is much bigger than those arenas so I would think it’s at least going to be similar if not more people showing up. 

Chrrie

mace1229 said:

Chrrie said:

mace1229 said:

Chrrie said:

I think at this point anyone trying for a spot on the rail should just assume that a line will be formed somewhere, usually 24+ hours before the show, despite the venue or anyone else saying you can’t line up. There’s only been a few exceptions that I can recall over the past 2 years, Camden and Oakland being two. 

I always thought that was dumb. An official unofficial start to a line that doesn't start until the next day. I've never lined up for GA so maybe my presumptions are off, but it always came across to me as the cool kids saying they're the line while getting to hang out somewhere else then bully people into not following the actual written rules. I say that because of the stories I've read of people who actually did follow the rules and lined up at the correct time, then being yelled at by people in the made up pre-line and forced to move back. 

The problem is there will always need to be a line because of the amount of people who show up and want to be on the rail. If a venue says they don’t allow queuing until say, 8am the day of the show, what are those 50-75 people doing at 7:59? Does everyone stay in their cars or on the sidewalk across the street until exactly 8am and then run as fast as they can to the “official” line? Of course not, one would think you would line up in the order that you arrived and wait until the venue tells you to come over. But more people than you’d think are willing to arrive a day early to make sure they are in the front of the line. 

I understand the need for it. But the problem is those who aren't active in social media or whatever venue used to spread the word dont know, will hang out in some other dive bar. The when the official time starts they get told they were hanging out and drinking in the wrong place by some other unofficial dude who was just hanging out and drinking all night with his friends. Say the second group had 10 people with them, who’s to say which is the official preline then?  I'd be pissed if I hung out all night at some other bar, just to be told by some dude that I hung out in the wrong bar and I need to move to the end of the line just because he's in more facebook groups than me. 

The unofficial line isn’t in a bar, it’s outside of the venue. That’s why my advice earlier is assume there is going to be a line of people somewhere that is findable if you walk around the venue grounds. I think someone mentioned a few comments up where the line was for the last Wrigley shows. 

mace1229

Chrrie said:

mace1229 said:

Chrrie said:

mace1229 said:

Chrrie said:

I think at this point anyone trying for a spot on the rail should just assume that a line will be formed somewhere, usually 24+ hours before the show, despite the venue or anyone else saying you can’t line up. There’s only been a few exceptions that I can recall over the past 2 years, Camden and Oakland being two. 

I always thought that was dumb. An official unofficial start to a line that doesn't start until the next day. I've never lined up for GA so maybe my presumptions are off, but it always came across to me as the cool kids saying they're the line while getting to hang out somewhere else then bully people into not following the actual written rules. I say that because of the stories I've read of people who actually did follow the rules and lined up at the correct time, then being yelled at by people in the made up pre-line and forced to move back. 

The problem is there will always need to be a line because of the amount of people who show up and want to be on the rail. If a venue says they don’t allow queuing until say, 8am the day of the show, what are those 50-75 people doing at 7:59? Does everyone stay in their cars or on the sidewalk across the street until exactly 8am and then run as fast as they can to the “official” line? Of course not, one would think you would line up in the order that you arrived and wait until the venue tells you to come over. But more people than you’d think are willing to arrive a day early to make sure they are in the front of the line. 

I understand the need for it. But the problem is those who aren't active in social media or whatever venue used to spread the word dont know, will hang out in some other dive bar. The when the official time starts they get told they were hanging out and drinking in the wrong place by some other unofficial dude who was just hanging out and drinking all night with his friends. Say the second group had 10 people with them, who’s to say which is the official preline then?  I'd be pissed if I hung out all night at some other bar, just to be told by some dude that I hung out in the wrong bar and I need to move to the end of the line just because he's in more facebook groups than me. 

The unofficial line isn’t in a bar, it’s outside of the venue. That’s why my advice earlier is assume there is going to be a line of people somewhere that is findable if you walk around the venue grounds. I think someone mentioned a few comments up where the line was for the last Wrigley shows. 

I thought they didn't let you line up anywhere on the venue grounds? Isn't that the point of no line, they don't want you on the grounds at 4 AM?
And if you're the first or second one, it won't be findable. Who's to say your spot is the start and not some other dude with a 90s haircut who walked 100 yards in the opposite direction? 

The stories shared in the passed might not have been a bar, but it was somewhere across the street and organized by an inner circle of fans via social media. From the sounds of it, it didn't sound like they necessarily stood in line, but just took note of who arrived when and hung out.
Like I said, I've never done it so maybe my perception was off, but thats what I gathered from the several stories I've read.

And there is a better way. Remember buying tickets pre-internet sales? Tickets would go on sale at 10 AM, they'd announce no lines before 7:00. At 7:30 they pass out random random numbers to everyone there and line up accordingly to that. Everyone knew that so no one would arrive before 7. Everyone else who arrived after just gets in the end of the line. 
That seems like.a better option that having another fan in charge of which is the official pre-line.

SHZA

mace1229 said:

SHZA said:

jimjam1982 said:

The beauty of unofficial lines is if you can beat them to the gate you win.  

Except the official venue security will honor the unofficial line based on unofficial instructions from the band, or the line will browbeat those who follow the rules about how unfair it would be for the line members not to be first after camping out for two days 

I've never heard about security honoring an unofficial line. But I have seen the band post in the past that there is no such thing as a pre-line and no pre-line ups will be honored at GA.

You've never heard about it because it's unofficial. You'd have to have been there and seen it, which you say you've never done. The official rule and policy is that no camping is allowed before a certain time and no pre-lines will be honored. That's not how it works in practice 

Chrrie

mace1229 said:

Chrrie said:

mace1229 said:

Chrrie said:

mace1229 said:

Chrrie said:

I think at this point anyone trying for a spot on the rail should just assume that a line will be formed somewhere, usually 24+ hours before the show, despite the venue or anyone else saying you can’t line up. There’s only been a few exceptions that I can recall over the past 2 years, Camden and Oakland being two. 

I always thought that was dumb. An official unofficial start to a line that doesn't start until the next day. I've never lined up for GA so maybe my presumptions are off, but it always came across to me as the cool kids saying they're the line while getting to hang out somewhere else then bully people into not following the actual written rules. I say that because of the stories I've read of people who actually did follow the rules and lined up at the correct time, then being yelled at by people in the made up pre-line and forced to move back. 

The problem is there will always need to be a line because of the amount of people who show up and want to be on the rail. If a venue says they don’t allow queuing until say, 8am the day of the show, what are those 50-75 people doing at 7:59? Does everyone stay in their cars or on the sidewalk across the street until exactly 8am and then run as fast as they can to the “official” line? Of course not, one would think you would line up in the order that you arrived and wait until the venue tells you to come over. But more people than you’d think are willing to arrive a day early to make sure they are in the front of the line. 

I understand the need for it. But the problem is those who aren't active in social media or whatever venue used to spread the word dont know, will hang out in some other dive bar. The when the official time starts they get told they were hanging out and drinking in the wrong place by some other unofficial dude who was just hanging out and drinking all night with his friends. Say the second group had 10 people with them, who’s to say which is the official preline then?  I'd be pissed if I hung out all night at some other bar, just to be told by some dude that I hung out in the wrong bar and I need to move to the end of the line just because he's in more facebook groups than me. 

The unofficial line isn’t in a bar, it’s outside of the venue. That’s why my advice earlier is assume there is going to be a line of people somewhere that is findable if you walk around the venue grounds. I think someone mentioned a few comments up where the line was for the last Wrigley shows. 

I thought they didn't let you line up anywhere on the venue grounds? Isn't that the point of no line, they don't want you on the grounds at 4 AM?
And if you're the first or second one, it won't be findable. Who's to say your spot is the start and not some other dude with a 90s haircut who walked 100 yards in the opposite direction? 

The stories shared in the passed might not have been a bar, but it was somewhere across the street and organized by an inner circle of fans via social media. From the sounds of it, it didn't sound like they necessarily stood in line, but just took note of who arrived when and hung out.
Like I said, I've never done it so maybe my perception was off, but thats what I gathered from the several stories I've read.

And there is a better way. Remember buying tickets pre-internet sales? Tickets would go on sale at 10 AM, they'd announce no lines before 7:00. At 7:30 they pass out random random numbers to everyone there and line up accordingly to that. Everyone knew that so no one would arrive before 7. Everyone else who arrived after just gets in the end of the line. 
That seems like.a better option that having another fan in charge of which is the official pre-line.

Exactly my point, the venue can say it doesn’t allow queuing but when people show up they normally work with you on a place they’d like you to be. At Ft. Worth it was in one of their parking lots. One of the venue staff even came out and said if there are storms they would have us go into their parking garage. Also camping out isn’t a Pearl Jam only thing. I guess it’s pretty common with Harry Styles and Paramore so you can go find out where those people stayed and do the same thing. People for Harry Styles camped
for like 9 days I guess in Austin last year. 

I also follow DMB which does a random lottery for the first 100 people who get to enter. If PJ did something like that it would definitely stop the camping, but watch Ed interact with some of the people he recognizes because they are often in front of him, he clearly appreciates them. 

GlowGirl

Chrrie said:

mace1229 said:

Chrrie said:

mace1229 said:

Chrrie said:

mace1229 said:

Chrrie said:

I think at this point anyone trying for a spot on the rail should just assume that a line will be formed somewhere, usually 24+ hours before the show, despite the venue or anyone else saying you can’t line up. There’s only been a few exceptions that I can recall over the past 2 years, Camden and Oakland being two. 

I always thought that was dumb. An official unofficial start to a line that doesn't start until the next day. I've never lined up for GA so maybe my presumptions are off, but it always came across to me as the cool kids saying they're the line while getting to hang out somewhere else then bully people into not following the actual written rules. I say that because of the stories I've read of people who actually did follow the rules and lined up at the correct time, then being yelled at by people in the made up pre-line and forced to move back. 

The problem is there will always need to be a line because of the amount of people who show up and want to be on the rail. If a venue says they don’t allow queuing until say, 8am the day of the show, what are those 50-75 people doing at 7:59? Does everyone stay in their cars or on the sidewalk across the street until exactly 8am and then run as fast as they can to the “official” line? Of course not, one would think you would line up in the order that you arrived and wait until the venue tells you to come over. But more people than you’d think are willing to arrive a day early to make sure they are in the front of the line. 

I understand the need for it. But the problem is those who aren't active in social media or whatever venue used to spread the word dont know, will hang out in some other dive bar. The when the official time starts they get told they were hanging out and drinking in the wrong place by some other unofficial dude who was just hanging out and drinking all night with his friends. Say the second group had 10 people with them, who’s to say which is the official preline then?  I'd be pissed if I hung out all night at some other bar, just to be told by some dude that I hung out in the wrong bar and I need to move to the end of the line just because he's in more facebook groups than me. 

The unofficial line isn’t in a bar, it’s outside of the venue. That’s why my advice earlier is assume there is going to be a line of people somewhere that is findable if you walk around the venue grounds. I think someone mentioned a few comments up where the line was for the last Wrigley shows. 

I thought they didn't let you line up anywhere on the venue grounds? Isn't that the point of no line, they don't want you on the grounds at 4 AM?
And if you're the first or second one, it won't be findable. Who's to say your spot is the start and not some other dude with a 90s haircut who walked 100 yards in the opposite direction? 

The stories shared in the passed might not have been a bar, but it was somewhere across the street and organized by an inner circle of fans via social media. From the sounds of it, it didn't sound like they necessarily stood in line, but just took note of who arrived when and hung out.
Like I said, I've never done it so maybe my perception was off, but thats what I gathered from the several stories I've read.

And there is a better way. Remember buying tickets pre-internet sales? Tickets would go on sale at 10 AM, they'd announce no lines before 7:00. At 7:30 they pass out random random numbers to everyone there and line up accordingly to that. Everyone knew that so no one would arrive before 7. Everyone else who arrived after just gets in the end of the line. 
That seems like.a better option that having another fan in charge of which is the official pre-line.

Exactly my point, the venue can say it doesn’t allow queuing but when people show up they normally work with you on a place they’d like you to be. At Ft. Worth it was in one of their parking lots. One of the venue staff even came out and said if there are storms they would have us go into their parking garage. Also camping out isn’t a Pearl Jam only thing. I guess it’s pretty common with Harry Styles and Paramore so you can go find out where those people stayed and do the same thing. People for Harry Styles camped
for like 9 days I guess in Austin last year. 

I also follow DMB which does a random lottery for the first 100 people who get to enter. If PJ did something like that it would definitely stop the camping, but watch Ed interact with some of the people he recognizes because they are often in front of him, he clearly appreciates them. 

in St. Paul, right after Pearl Jam people started camping out overnight for Greta Van Fleet - so it definitely happens all the time.

mace1229

SHZA said:

mace1229 said:

SHZA said:

jimjam1982 said:

The beauty of unofficial lines is if you can beat them to the gate you win.  

Except the official venue security will honor the unofficial line based on unofficial instructions from the band, or the line will browbeat those who follow the rules about how unfair it would be for the line members not to be first after camping out for two days 

I've never heard about security honoring an unofficial line. But I have seen the band post in the past that there is no such thing as a pre-line and no pre-line ups will be honored at GA.

You've never heard about it because it's unofficial. You'd have to have been there and seen it, which you say you've never done. The official rule and policy is that no camping is allowed before a certain time and no pre-lines will be honored. That's not how it works in practice 

I'm not willing to camp for that long, so wont impact me. But if I was, I'd be pissed. If I followed the written rules, hung out somwhere near by so I could be near the front when it was allowed, only to be told there was a pre-line that was enforced somewhere else, I'd be pissed.
Kind of a lose-lose. If I stand my ground and say forget you, I followed the rules, then I'm pissing everyone off who I'm going ot be standing next to for the next 16 hours  and rely on when I need a pee break. Or just say okay I'll go to the back, then I stayed up all night for nothing. 
I think random numbers is the better way to go. Especially since I've seen the band post there is no such thing as a preline and pre-lines wil not be enforced, and if there really is, then that kinds sucks. And I totally understand the people who do that and feel bad when they unknowingly "cut" in line.

Chrrie

mace1229 said:

SHZA said:

mace1229 said:

SHZA said:

jimjam1982 said:

The beauty of unofficial lines is if you can beat them to the gate you win.  

Except the official venue security will honor the unofficial line based on unofficial instructions from the band, or the line will browbeat those who follow the rules about how unfair it would be for the line members not to be first after camping out for two days 

I've never heard about security honoring an unofficial line. But I have seen the band post in the past that there is no such thing as a pre-line and no pre-line ups will be honored at GA.

You've never heard about it because it's unofficial. You'd have to have been there and seen it, which you say you've never done. The official rule and policy is that no camping is allowed before a certain time and no pre-lines will be honored. That's not how it works in practice 

I'm not willing to camp for that long, so wont impact me. But if I was, I'd be pissed. If I followed the written rules, hung out somwhere near by so I could be near the front when it was allowed, only to be told there was a pre-line that was enforced somewhere else, I'd be pissed.
Kind of a lose-lose. If I stand my ground and say forget you, I followed the rules, then I'm pissing everyone off who I'm going ot be standing next to for the next 16 hours  and rely on when I need a pee break. Or just say okay I'll go to the back, then I stayed up all night for nothing. 
I think random numbers is the better way to go. Especially since I've seen the band post there is no such thing as a preline and pre-lines wil not be enforced, and if there really is, then that kinds sucks. And I totally understand the people who do that and feel bad when they unknowingly "cut" in line.

It’s way less obscure than you think it is, there are enough people to where the line is pretty obvious. There are also people who make rounds around the venue to find anyone who might be in the wrong spot. And finally if you are in the wrong spot venue security usually shoos you away. 

I thought the main issue before was with lists and people writing numbers on your hand. It’s not like that anymore, there’s no list you just sit there in line with everyone else. Idk I think it’s been awesome and the people I’ve met makes it even better. For my boyfriend’s 70th show he had never done GA so we figured we’d try it and it turned out to be the best experience we’ve ever had and now it’s just part of the fun of it all. 

SHZA

mace1229 said:

SHZA said:

mace1229 said:

SHZA said:

jimjam1982 said:

The beauty of unofficial lines is if you can beat them to the gate you win.  

Except the official venue security will honor the unofficial line based on unofficial instructions from the band, or the line will browbeat those who follow the rules about how unfair it would be for the line members not to be first after camping out for two days 

I've never heard about security honoring an unofficial line. But I have seen the band post in the past that there is no such thing as a pre-line and no pre-line ups will be honored at GA.

You've never heard about it because it's unofficial. You'd have to have been there and seen it, which you say you've never done. The official rule and policy is that no camping is allowed before a certain time and no pre-lines will be honored. That's not how it works in practice 

I'm not willing to camp for that long, so wont impact me. But if I was, I'd be pissed. If I followed the written rules, hung out somwhere near by so I could be near the front when it was allowed, only to be told there was a pre-line that was enforced somewhere else, I'd be pissed.
Kind of a lose-lose. If I stand my ground and say forget you, I followed the rules, then I'm pissing everyone off who I'm going ot be standing next to for the next 16 hours  and rely on when I need a pee break. Or just say okay I'll go to the back, then I stayed up all night for nothing. 
I think random numbers is the better way to go. Especially since I've seen the band post there is no such thing as a preline and pre-lines wil not be enforced, and if there really is, then that kinds sucks. And I totally understand the people who do that and feel bad when they unknowingly "cut" in line.

💯  The official instructions should mean something or why send them out in the first place? But if you're one or a couple of people facing off with a group of 50 or whatever, it would take some intestinal fortitude to stand your ground. And ultimately the venue personnel who has to make the call about who's first would face the same dynamic. 

I think the random number system would be fine. Bruce did that in the past. But I've heard mostly negative reactions from the PJ crowd 

dunewall

So you can either try for a rail spot and give up on buying merch
or
decide that the rail isn't that important and line up early for the merch line instead

NewfieintheUSA

SHZA said:

mace1229 said:

SHZA said:

mace1229 said:

SHZA said:

jimjam1982 said:

The beauty of unofficial lines is if you can beat them to the gate you win.  

Except the official venue security will honor the unofficial line based on unofficial instructions from the band, or the line will browbeat those who follow the rules about how unfair it would be for the line members not to be first after camping out for two days 

I've never heard about security honoring an unofficial line. But I have seen the band post in the past that there is no such thing as a pre-line and no pre-line ups will be honored at GA.

You've never heard about it because it's unofficial. You'd have to have been there and seen it, which you say you've never done. The official rule and policy is that no camping is allowed before a certain time and no pre-lines will be honored. That's not how it works in practice 

I'm not willing to camp for that long, so wont impact me. But if I was, I'd be pissed. If I followed the written rules, hung out somwhere near by so I could be near the front when it was allowed, only to be told there was a pre-line that was enforced somewhere else, I'd be pissed.
Kind of a lose-lose. If I stand my ground and say forget you, I followed the rules, then I'm pissing everyone off who I'm going ot be standing next to for the next 16 hours  and rely on when I need a pee break. Or just say okay I'll go to the back, then I stayed up all night for nothing. 
I think random numbers is the better way to go. Especially since I've seen the band post there is no such thing as a preline and pre-lines wil not be enforced, and if there really is, then that kinds sucks. And I totally understand the people who do that and feel bad when they unknowingly "cut" in line.

💯  The official instructions should mean something or why send them out in the first place? But if you're one or a couple of people facing off with a group of 50 or whatever, it would take some intestinal fortitude to stand your ground. And ultimately the venue personnel who has to make the call about who's first would face the same dynamic. 

I think the random number system would be fine. Bruce did that in the past. But I've heard mostly negative reactions from the PJ crowd 

Because the rail riders would lose out 

Chrrie

I mean no one is making anyone camp out. There are plenty of people who say they prefer walking in at doors and going to the back of the pit, or 10 rows out from Mike or whatever. If you want to be in the first row of people go pitch a tent with everyone else who wants it just as bad. 

mace1229

Chrrie said:

I mean no one is making anyone camp out. There are plenty of people who say they prefer walking in at doors and going to the back of the pit, or 10 rows out from Mike or whatever. If you want to be in the first row of people go pitch a tent with everyone else who wants it just as bad. 

No one is saying that. Just discussing if there are official rules posted, then those should be the same rules for everyone. Or make it clear that there are exceptions and talk to security.

The random number isnt for convenience on those who don't want to camp. Its to enforce the no camping rules and avoid confusion when the band says there are no pre lines and pre-lines will not be honored, but if you talk the Security Guard Steve he shows you the secret line and enforces it. 

Its just kind of funny reading some other threads. People harping on others for not reading the rules for the lottery and understanding them correctly or making proper selections. But when it comes to GA, the clearly written rules don't matter and you're supposed to know all the inside information and ignore the information given to us.

I'm sure everyone would be upset if they followed the written rules as it was given to them for the lottery, but then later found out if you enter up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start when making your selection, you're guaranteed a GA win.

SHZA

dunewall said:

So you can either try for a rail spot and give up on buying merch
or
decide that the rail isn't that important and line up early for the merch line instead

Nope. You can line up for GA and plant a chair in the merch line to hold your spot there too. No joke 

Chrrie

Last year, Pearl Jam did not address the formation of unofficial GA lines, camping, or when you could begin lining up in the email they sent to ticket holders. 

The specific venues will send something out with more information and sometimes the venue will say camping is not allowed and you can begin lining up on their property at whatever time. I understand that some people will read that and show up at the time stated in the email and be disappointed to see a lot of people already there. I am not trying to express my opinion on whether or not that’s “fair”, I’m just letting people know that’s how it plays out in reality. But like with anything that a lot of people want, you have to determine if it’s worth it to you now that you know it won’t be a show up in the morning for rail kind of situation for an arena let alone a stadium. The first time I did this was San Diego in 2022 and I didn’t know anyone or have an in with the social media groups. SDSU’s website also said no camping was allowed, but knowing that other fan bases also still camp we showed up the night before, immediately saw the line and joined the end of it. Oakland and Camden didn’t have camping because the venues are in some rougher areas but people slept in their cars nearby and got in line first thing in the morning. So you’ll have to take each venue as its own thing because it’s not going to be the same at each one. Since Wrigley happened not too long ago it should be pretty easy to figure out where you need to go and when. 

RS65573

In Chicago last year (United Center) they gave you a ticket with a number, sent you away until 2 and made you line up by number at 2pm.