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Do you take into account Pearl Jam later cancellations this tour?

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,322
edited February 16 in The Porch
I had/have not. But this morning, my mind went back to sitting in Prague 2022 and getting the cancellation news due to Eddies voice and the Paris show. The second European tour in a row, where they have had to cancel shows because of Eddies voice giving in/needing care. 

But for me, I had not thought about it till today. And it isn't really a factor for me. The fragility of paying a lot to go to another country for PJ.
Is it in the back of your heads, when making plans or is it an easy thing to just forget about?
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    know1know1 Posts: 6,761
    They've postponed the last two shows I've had tickets for. One of them was early enough that it didn't matter so much. The other cost me quite a bit of money since I'd already traveled to the venue and checked into the hotel.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,984
    They postponed the fifth show in 2023. It can happen at any time. 
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    Force Of NatureForce Of Nature Hertfordshire, England Posts: 954
    Same as you, it only popped into my head earlier this morning.
    As I went for Manchester and London its early in the leg that I'm not too worried.

    It wouldn't stop me going for tickets but it would be in my mind if I were going to one of the shows at the end of the leg.
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    tino_11tino_11 Posts: 1,990
    Yes, I do to be honest. Not so much for the UK shows (where I'm from) but for Barcelona, I'm booking as much as possible that I can refund or reschedule, although it is costing more. Also, I've considered, if I get there and it is cancelled, would I be happy to have a couple of days in Barcelona on my own. I've been there before but decided there's still plenty for me to explore if worst comes to worst. 
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,845
    Yes, it crossed my mind. Two of the three shows I selected are the leg openers.
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    just_onejust_one Lisbon Posts: 1,991
    i was in vienna. i just hope it doesnt happen again. The tour is not that big so it might help not having cancelled shows.
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,608
    Yep.  But not much that can be done when going to Europe or Australia other than trying to get to multiple cities.
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,041
    Definitely a factor for me. 2 of the last 4 shows I had tickets to got canceled. Sacramento and Indy. Both were weekend travel. One of the reasons I've decided not to travel for PJ right now. With 2 small kids, finding weekend care for them and the cost to travel isnt worth the risk. Unless its a city we would travel to with or without PJ. 
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,717
    edited February 16
    If I travel for a show, I arrange it assuming the show will be cancelled. i.e. flight cancellation insurance and no pre-paid/no cancellation hotel bookings. Also, I would never plan to see a show in a city I wouldn't want to visit anyway, in case it gets cancelled after I'm there. Either way, awesome vacation.
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    SpagsSpags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 2,970
    The travel is the juice, Pearl Jam is a nice bonus.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,580
    It crossed my mind, but we had 2024 vacation plans for the destination shows I put in for regardless, so in the unfortunate (and hopefully unlikely) even that they have to cancel either of those shows, my trip won't be a waste as a result. 
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    just_onejust_one Lisbon Posts: 1,991
    Spags said:
    The travel is the juice, Pearl Jam is a nice bonus.
    not to many of us , myself included
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,322
    Is anyone bringing their trail running shoes just in case?
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    LizJLizJ Posts: 338
    Yes, as I had planned to see them at all the 3 cancelled gigs in Europe in 2022. And read about other cancellations. 
    Now I only try to book hotels with free cancellation until the day of arrival (which were nearly nonexistent on Booking for this year!). Aside that, another part of the planing process is now, trying to decide beforehand, if I would want to see a certain city anyways, even if the gig was canceled. 



     

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    JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,562
    LizJ said:
    Yes, as I had planned to see them at all the 3 cancelled gigs in Europe in 2022. And read about other cancellations. 
    Now I only try to book hotels with free cancellation until the day of arrival (which were nearly nonexistent on Booking for this year!). Aside that, another part of the planing process is now, trying to decide beforehand, if I would want to see a certain city anyways, even if the gig was canceled. 



     

    I haven't seen hotels that allow cancellation until the date of arrival. The best I have seen is the day before, however that wasn't any help last year in Indy.
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    marra2312marra2312 Posts: 49
    Yup, never travel without a back up plan. As much as the show lover in me would like to do everything, what works in a worst case scenario always trumps it.
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,845
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Is anyone bringing their trail running shoes just in case?
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    washed in blackwashed in black Posts: 835
    They canceled the Indy show about 5 hours before doors. Fortunately, we had flown out the day before and went to see Interpol / Smashing Pumpkins at Ruoff that night, so it wasn't a total loss. It was a huge disappointment, but these days, with illnesses always a possibility, it's a risk that you take when traveling. Held on to our tickets and will fly out the day before and hope for the best this August.

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    deb1211deb1211 Posts: 1,190
    I think about it but not much I can do about it.
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    njhaley1njhaley1 Valley of the Sun Posts: 278
    My hope is that they learn to adapt without one of the members - someone multi-talented like Josh who can fill in for just about anyone except for Eddie if he had to. 
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,041
    PJ_Soul said:
    If I travel for a show, I arrange it assuming the show will be cancelled. i.e. flight cancellation insurance and no pre-paid/no cancellation hotel bookings. Also, I would never plan to see a show in a city I wouldn't want to visit anyway, in case it gets cancelled after I'm there. Either way, awesome vacation.
    There aren't many cities I wouldn't enjoy visiting at least once.
    The problem is planning a short trip over a short weekend. Its going to cost us $1000 easily to go to chicago for a weekend with travel and hotels.  While I do enjoy Chicago, I wouldn't plan a $1000 weekend vacation there. 
    If I'm going to spend $1000 just on traveling without a show, I'll pick somewhere less expensive and extend our stay somewhere, get a 5 day trip instead of just a 2 day trip out of it, or somewhere I haven't been before.
    But those usually aren't option if I plan it around a PJ show. Many of the shows are repeat cities, and I'm restricted by the dates on which I can chose as well. 
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    JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,562
    njhaley1 said:
    My hope is that they learn to adapt without one of the members - someone multi-talented like Josh who can fill in for just about anyone except for Eddie if he had to. 
    Have Black Circle from Brazil open for them. Have a member of PJ get sick? Plug one of those guys in, they seem to have their songs down pretty well. I am kidding, sort of.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,984
    It goes both ways, too. My original plan last year had been St. Paul 2 and then both Chicago shows. Chicago fell through and that turned out lucky because I came home from Minnesota with COVID. Never would have made it through the doors of the United Center, either night.
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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 10,099
    If I am traveling far to see them I try to plan a trip around it. When I went to Prague in 2022 I planned to travel around the Czech Republic for 10 days - so Pearl Jam was just going to be one day of that vacation. I was bummed about the cancellation but had a great time touring around Prague and some other cities in the area.
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    SpunkieSpunkie I come from downtown. Posts: 5,845
    ^ Yeah, I was sad for you for that lost joyous event, GG. 
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    YourDirtisMyfoodYourDirtisMyfood Boston Posts: 4,532
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Is anyone bringing their trail running shoes just in case?
    I find it on the run in a race that can't be won
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,356
    edited February 16
    No, but I'm kind of happy Vancouver is the start of the tour :)  Hopefully if the rails go off the tour it's after those shows :)

    The part I am concerned about is the Canucks are having a decent year.  Historically, most of the time, they'd choke in the playoffs, but I think they only have to get the 2nd round to start conflicting with the Pearl Jam dates.   Given I have to book time off work, hotels etc.. I hope the dates don't get moved.

    Fingers cross the 'nucks bow out early :)
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    Horse2345Horse2345 Posts: 3,262
    Zod said:
    No, but I'm kind of happy Vancouver is the start of the tour :)  Hopefully if the rails go off the tour it's after those shows :)

    The part I am concerned about is the Canucks are having a decent year.  Historically, most of the time, they'd choke in the playoffs, but I think they only have to get the 2nd round to start conflicting with the Pearl Jam dates.   Given I have to book time off work, hotels etc.. I hope the dates don't get moved.

    Fingers cross the 'nucks bow out early :)
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    Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,147
    Definitely. After the money I spent on shows last tour and Indy being cancelled the day of it is a concern. Especially with the prices of everything. 
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,322
    Why was Indy cancelled?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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