Is there a way to get paid for sale of tickets on F2F if you don’t have a domestic bank account?

steven87steven87 Posts: 1,450
Hi all,

I was planning on attending the Vancouver shows but the instructions state you must have a valid bank account or debit card within the country of the event in order to sell through F2F. I live in the US and don’t have a Canadian bank account/debit card. Last time around when I went to Ottawa, TM ended up paying me for my F2F shows by physical check several months after the show. Now it sounds like that is no longer the case. Anyone have any thoughts/advice on this? Is there any web-based platform I can use to get paid for tickets I sell in Canada without having a Canadian bank account (PayPal, etc.)? Thanks all!
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  • GibsonGibson Posts: 2,646
    edited February 13
    I recommend seeing if your bank has Canadian branches. You can look into opening an online account. if it doesn't, look into opening a second account with a different bank just for this.
    *There was a thread from 2022 tour that addressed this; I just forget what the exact answers were.
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  • gibbitsgibbits Posts: 508
    would wise.com help with this?  It's not bad for dealing with multiple currencies.
  • steven87steven87 Posts: 1,450
    Thanks, these are good ideas! I’m thinking/hoping maybe a wise account would work. 
  • ryanjp2323ryanjp2323 Posts: 562
    i sent 10C an email. Getting a definitive answer from TM will be unlikely.  Im in Canada and sold US tickets last year. Took a lot of time and patience getting paid by TM with a USD cheque but it happened. I can't see them (TM) allowing you to sell F2F and not figure out a way to pay you. can't see selling on F2F with a required pre-approved bank account either. worse case you'll need to jump through some banking hoops or have a trustworthy friend in Canada (or USA) help you out! See what happens!
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  • SHZASHZA Posts: 3,933
    Gibson said:
    I recommend seeing if your bank has Canadian branches. You can look into opening an online account. if it doesn't, look into opening a second account with a different bank just for this.
    *There was a thread from 2022 tour that addressed this; I just forget what the exact answers were.
    I recently opened a BMO account, not realizing that it stands for Bank of Montreal. Hopefully they can help with this 
  • Hurls15Hurls15 Posts: 161
    Have Canadian fans really been shut out from selling tix for US shows on F2F unless they have a US bank account? That would be REALLY not cool. Upgrading tix on F2F has been a great way for passionate fans who are willing to put in the time and effort to get good seats. What is the rationale for this? Game changer for Canadian travellers. 

    Here is the reference:
    For fans who can’t use their tickets, Pearl Jam and Ticketmaster will offer a Fan-to-Fan Face Value Ticket Exchange for every city beginning at a later date. You must have a valid bank account or debit card within the country of the event(s) in order to sell through the Fan-to-Fan Face Value Ticket Exchange. Tickets identified for sale above face value on secondary marketplaces are subject to cancellation. For more info on Ticketmaster’s Fan-to-Fan Face Value Ticket Exchange click here.
  • ST66483ST66483 Posts: 769
    As a Canadian I could sell fan to fan US tickets on the last tour and TM would mail a cheque (after some prodding). Sold tickets in August and the cheque came in January. Not sure about other countries, but that’s how it worked for me. 
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,589
    It's not just Fan2Fan.  It applies to TM's reselling platform.   All Fan2Fan is, is TM's reselling platform with a locked price. I ran into this when I upgraded GNR tickets in 2016, I needed to get rid of my original pair.  I ended up opening a TD Bank US account to use when I need a US bank account for something. Makes it easier for dealing with US Ticketmaster and a few other things.
  • D-RodD-Rod Posts: 1,845
    ST66483 said:
    As a Canadian I could sell fan to fan US tickets on the last tour and TM would mail a cheque (after some prodding). Sold tickets in August and the cheque came in January. Not sure about other countries, but that’s how it worked for me. 
    Same with me .  Cheque took several months to arrive but eventually did 
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  • Hurls15Hurls15 Posts: 161
    D-Rod said:
    ST66483 said:
    As a Canadian I could sell fan to fan US tickets on the last tour and TM would mail a cheque (after some prodding). Sold tickets in August and the cheque came in January. Not sure about other countries, but that’s how it worked for me. 
    Same with me .  Cheque took several months to arrive but eventually did 
    My experience as well for past two tours. I was fine with that delay in refund    Not being able to sell F2F tix at all without a US account is a problem. 
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,024
    Both RBC and TD offer US domiciled bank accounts to Canadians.  I got one of these a couple of years ago and it is as easy as can be to get paid from ticket sales.  
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  • Wise travel card is the answer for those outside US, sets up US account and worked perfectly for me on Midwest tour
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,589
    Both RBC and TD offer US domiciled bank accounts to Canadians.  I got one of these a couple of years ago and it is as easy as can be to get paid from ticket sales.  

    Yup, plus I leave the $$ in the account for when I'm in the US.  Sometimes there's those times where Canadian cards just don't want to work, and the US domiciled card has no problems :)
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,934
    Both RBC and TD offer US domiciled bank accounts to Canadians.  I got one of these a couple of years ago and it is as easy as can be to get paid from ticket sales.  
    I’ll contact TD and begin the process but wanted to ask if you recall what the turnaround time is?
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,024
    100 Pacer said:
    Both RBC and TD offer US domiciled bank accounts to Canadians.  I got one of these a couple of years ago and it is as easy as can be to get paid from ticket sales.  
    I’ll contact TD and begin the process but wanted to ask if you recall what the turnaround time is?
    I think it was a few weeks by the time the debit card came and everything.  But it wasn’t difficult.  
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  • Moffat12Moffat12 Posts: 29
    I just received my $ for 2 sets of Austin tickets. The check comes, it just takes forever.  I kept calling TM as well, they ended up reissuing me a new check.
  • blairs1blairs1 Posts: 258
    100 Pacer said:
    Both RBC and TD offer US domiciled bank accounts to Canadians.  I got one of these a couple of years ago and it is as easy as can be to get paid from ticket sales.  
    I’ll contact TD and begin the process but wanted to ask if you recall what the turnaround time is?
    I think it was a few weeks by the time the debit card came and everything.  But it wasn’t difficult.  
    Is there a fee for this account?
  • julieferjuliefer Posts: 397
    Wise travel card is the answer for those outside US, sets up US account and worked perfectly for me on Midwest tour
    OH I'm glad you said this! I was wondering if Wise would work. I already have an account but hadn't set up a USD one yet, so I just did it and it took 5 minutes.
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,934
    juliefer said:
    Wise travel card is the answer for those outside US, sets up US account and worked perfectly for me on Midwest tour
    OH I'm glad you said this! I was wondering if Wise would work. I already have an account but hadn't set up a USD one yet, so I just did it and it took 5 minutes.
    I’m unfamiliar - can you elaborate on this option?
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,559
    Zod said:
    Both RBC and TD offer US domiciled bank accounts to Canadians.  I got one of these a couple of years ago and it is as easy as can be to get paid from ticket sales.  

    Yup, plus I leave the $$ in the account for when I'm in the US.  Sometimes there's those times where Canadian cards just don't want to work, and the US domiciled card has no problems :)

    Might have to get a US domiciled card. 
  • camhendycamhendy Posts: 164
    Stupid questions guys but bear with me lol. As a Canadian with a US domiciled card I can enter all of the details on TM that would get me paid as if I have a US bank account? Trying to get all of those cheques dispatched last year almost gave me a fucking aneurysm 
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  • GlowGirlGlowGirl Posts: 10,924
    camhendy said:
    Stupid questions guys but bear with me lol. As a Canadian with a US domiciled card I can enter all of the details on TM that would get me paid as if I have a US bank account? Trying to get all of those cheques dispatched last year almost gave me a fucking aneurysm 
    I had that same issue in 2022 as a U.S. citizen trying to get paid for selling my Canadian shows. It was the most stressful process trying to get paid. It took forever.

  • camhendycamhendy Posts: 164
    GlowGirl said:
    camhendy said:
    Stupid questions guys but bear with me lol. As a Canadian with a US domiciled card I can enter all of the details on TM that would get me paid as if I have a US bank account? Trying to get all of those cheques dispatched last year almost gave me a fucking aneurysm 
    I had that same issue in 2022 as a U.S. citizen trying to get paid for selling my Canadian shows. It was the most stressful process trying to get paid. It took forever.

    Seriously. It felt like pulling teeth even getting them to send the cheques let alone the wait time for them to arrive
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  • Vedd HeddVedd Hedd Posts: 4,598
    Does a Wise card work for cash conversion like an ATM?
    Scenario, I live in the US and travel to Canada.  
    I put come cash in my wise card account staring with USD. 
    I can convert that to CAD. 
    I go to canada, and use an ATM there to takeout CAD?  

    Is that how that works?
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  • BeerBaronBeerBaron Posts: 4,097
    Both RBC and TD offer US domiciled bank accounts to Canadians.  I got one of these a couple of years ago and it is as easy as can be to get paid from ticket sales.  
    Is this a USD bank account with TD/RBC in Canada or is this an account that is registered to the address of one of their US branches? 
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  • Hawk123Hawk123 Posts: 2,141
    My payout for US shows to Canada was really quick last tour. They used something called Hyperwallet and it was back in my PayPal in no time. 
  • RatherStarvedRatherStarved Posts: 5,024
    To answer some questions, RBC charges an annual fee for the account (waived if a promotion is on).  It’s a bit annoying to pay but it’s like $3/month or so on average and the value is there for me.  I don’t think TD charges but when I was trying to set mine up I kept hitting dead ends with them.  The account is US domiciled.  Distinct from US denominated Canadian domiciled.  
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,934
    Logged into TD Easyweb and followed the steps to open a TD Convenience Checking account with account & routing numbers I believe will be accepted for F2F payment transfers. It’s a US based product so I don’t foresee any issues.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

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  • julieferjuliefer Posts: 397
    edited February 14
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Does a Wise card work for cash conversion like an ATM?
    Scenario, I live in the US and travel to Canada.  
    I put come cash in my wise card account staring with USD. 
    I can convert that to CAD. 
    I go to canada, and use an ATM there to takeout CAD?  

    Is that how that works?
    I think so, yes - except you don't have to convert it to CAD you just use it as is.

    As a Canadian, I opened a Wise account because it has a better exchange rate and can be used like a credit card or debit card in the US. I put money in my account in CAD and use it in the US and I don't have to do any currency converting myself. The downside is that it is like a prepaid credit card, so you have to put in enough money to use on your trip, you can't just charge things and then pay them off when you get home. (Of course, you can log in and add funds any time from your connected account, so as long as you have the money available somewhere I guess it's not a big deal.)

    @100 Pacer Does that answer your question too? For F2F purposes, once you have a Wise account in CAD, you can easily open a USD one too so that TM can put funds in there if you sell tickets.

    Also I have a referral code I can share that waives the fee on your first transfer and gives me a bonus if you transfer a certain amount. PM if you like.
    Post edited by juliefer on
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,589
    With my TD one.  The monthly fee is waived if the balance stays over $100 USD.

    There's no TD branches in the West Coast of the US, so when I did the online app to open it, I chose my nearest branch as being in Pennsylvania (as I think that was geographically closest to me). I don't think it matters.  I've never needed to step foot in a branch. I do everything online, by the phone, or via ATM.

    I also don't mind this now that it's setup. I tend to go to the US once or twice a year.   Whatever ends up going on the card, I just spend while I'm down there.  Its kind of handy if something gets refunded to it, because it doesn't convert back to Canadian and I save on FX fees.


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