Prioritization tool??

mookieb14
mookieb14 Posts: 148
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We no longer rank shows in order of priority anymore?   Due to confusion?  Like when members ranked shows 1 or 2 and members that had it 3 or 4 got tix while higher ranking didn’t?   Thoughts on this..
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  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    It's a terrible change 
  • mookieb14
    mookieb14 Posts: 148
    I would think the odds of getting tix to your top shows took a hit with this switch up
  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,020
    People still got shut out, while others had multiple requests fulfilled. I think the priorities were giving people false hope. It's a lottery, therefore a crapshoot.
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  • joemattinglyjr
    joemattinglyjr Texas Posts: 10
    What is the significance of your member number? I am new and have a very high member number.  Does that matter?
  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,187
    joemattinglyjr said:
    What is the significance of your member number? I am new and have a very high member number.  Does that matter?
    It doesn't matter in terms of your chances of getting picked for the lottery. However, if you get picked for reserved seats it will determine where you are seated. You will be seated behind everyone with a lower member number than you have.

  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,369
    joemattinglyjr said:
    What is the significance of your member number? I am new and have a very high member number.  Does that matter?
    It doesn’t matter for the initial lottery but if you’re selected for tickets then seniority comes into play to determine seat location 
  • mattcoz
    mattcoz Chicago Posts: 2,243
    Seems like Ticketmaster couldn't handle it so they just got rid of it. Sucks. It really shouldn't be that hard.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,944
    spankyMP said:
    People still got shut out, while others had multiple requests fulfilled. I think the priorities were giving people false hope. It's a lottery, therefore a crapshoot.
    I know there were some glitches. But don't underestimate human error and our inability to follow simple directions. I imagine the number of people who were shut out because they did something incorrectly was high.
  • rival9500
    rival9500 Posts: 594
    Truly awful there is no priority anymore.  How was this confusing?  
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  • mookieb14
    mookieb14 Posts: 148
    I agree I think TM couldn’t accommodate priority into their algorithm.  Hard to rationalize.  
  • steven87
    steven87 Posts: 1,735
    mookieb14 said:
    I would think the odds of getting tix to your top shows took a hit with this switch up
    I agree with you that the odds of getting tickets to your top shows probably took a big hit. Now you don’t even get to specify your top “show(s)”- it’s totally random. Since it appears that each show will now have a totally separate lottery with no priority taken into account, theoretically someone could put in for 20 shows and get all 20 (and even get GA for all 20), while someone else who only puts in for one show could get shut out entirely. I would hope that behinds the scenes 10c is doing something to try to ensure some equity in the process (e.g., limits on how many GAs or total shows one person can win), but if it is truly a totally randomized lottery for each show, it doesn’t sound like that’s the case. 
  • jwhjr17
    jwhjr17 Posts: 2,079
    mace1229 said:
    spankyMP said:
    People still got shut out, while others had multiple requests fulfilled. I think the priorities were giving people false hope. It's a lottery, therefore a crapshoot.
    I know there were some glitches. But don't underestimate human error and our inability to follow simple directions. I imagine the number of people who were shut out because they did something incorrectly was high.
    This 1000% based on all of the questions every time the lottery comes around.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,936
    mookieb14 said:
    I agree I think TM couldn’t accommodate priority into their algorithm.  Hard to rationalize.  
    TM had priority in the formula for U2.com presale tix for Sphere shows and it worked fine.

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  • wall232
    wall232 New York Posts: 1,346
    Super annoyed we can't prioritize our picks anymore. Like, how hard would that be to keep? It was there in 2020 and last year. 
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  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,900
    jwhjr17 said:
    mace1229 said:
    spankyMP said:
    People still got shut out, while others had multiple requests fulfilled. I think the priorities were giving people false hope. It's a lottery, therefore a crapshoot.
    I know there were some glitches. But don't underestimate human error and our inability to follow simple directions. I imagine the number of people who were shut out because they did something incorrectly was high.
    This 1000% based on all of the questions every time the lottery comes around.
    Definitely agree. Granted, when a tour is announced there are multiple emails, PJ news posts and at least two presale options for 10c members (10c & Verified Fan), yet the same questions pop up from the past 3-4 years of touring. Seems like it could be more consolidated to a single source of truth, but most of us typically freak out and miss details regardless.

    Best bets on any sale is to allow the announcement to happen, give yourself a few hours to let the links and sites fix any errors or loading issues, and consider options before jumping on and submitting something before you know what your plan is. I'm guessing more than a few people lost entries for shows after updating their request with a new one.
  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,020
    mace1229 said:
    spankyMP said:
    People still got shut out, while others had multiple requests fulfilled. I think the priorities were giving people false hope. It's a lottery, therefore a crapshoot.
    I know there were some glitches. But don't underestimate human error and our inability to follow simple directions. I imagine the number of people who were shut out because they did something incorrectly was high.
    Oh, I certainly do not underestimate it LOL, but I was shut out of a couple of legs with shows prioritized, all ducks in a row etc, and 30 years experience F5ing and reading all instructions inside and out.
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  • mr bungle
    mr bungle Posts: 1,425
    wall232 said:
    Super annoyed we can't prioritize our picks anymore. Like, how hard would that be to keep? It was there in 2020 and last year. 
    Since most of these U.S. shows are in big PJ markets, they should at least prioritize fans hometown shows. 

  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,916
    edited February 2024
    mattcoz said:
    Seems like Ticketmaster couldn't handle it so they just got rid of it. Sucks. It really shouldn't be that hard.
    I find this odd, because my fan club tickets for U2 at the Sphere used the same TM system.   It means TM can handle it.  It was so much better.

    You could choose your priority dates, then you could specifically choose the sections you were interested in getting tickets in.  Then they ran the lotto.  It was kind of basic, but worked amazingly well.  We chose GA, level 200 and level 300 (skipped asking for level 100 because of the overhang problem).  Got GA for the first priority.   

    Actually now that I type that out, I must not of been able to buy more than one pair to one show or I would of ended up with two pairs.  Maybe that's why it works better :)  That being said it did have priority, so it's still a thing for other bands.




  • spankyMP
    spankyMP NY to NC to NH Posts: 2,020
    steven87 said:
    mookieb14 said:
    I would think the odds of getting tix to your top shows took a hit with this switch up
    I agree with you that the odds of getting tickets to your top shows probably took a big hit. Now you don’t even get to specify your top “show(s)”- it’s totally random. Since it appears that each show will now have a totally separate lottery with no priority taken into account, theoretically someone could put in for 20 shows and get all 20 (and even get GA for all 20), while someone else who only puts in for one show could get shut out entirely. I would hope that behinds the scenes 10c is doing something to try to ensure some equity in the process (e.g., limits on how many GAs or total shows one person can win), but if it is truly a totally randomized lottery for each show, it doesn’t sound like that’s the case. 
    That has always happened, maybe not to that extreme, but it always has and will continue to happen. I had always been pretty fortunate in the lottery, not always winning, but pretty successful. Then a couple legs or so in a row (maybe 2018 and 2022) I got nothing, so last leg I put in for 5 shows because I hadn't seen them since 2015 and was determined to see them somewhere, anywhere. I ended up getting all 5 shows and decided to go to Austin.
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  • jdopj
    jdopj Posts: 772
    steven87 said:
    mookieb14 said:
    I would think the odds of getting tix to your top shows took a hit with this switch up
    I agree with you that the odds of getting tickets to your top shows probably took a big hit. Now you don’t even get to specify your top “show(s)”- it’s totally random. Since it appears that each show will now have a totally separate lottery with no priority taken into account, theoretically someone could put in for 20 shows and get all 20 (and even get GA for all 20), while someone else who only puts in for one show could get shut out entirely. I would hope that behinds the scenes 10c is doing something to try to ensure some equity in the process (e.g., limits on how many GAs or total shows one person can win), but if it is truly a totally randomized lottery for each show, it doesn’t sound like that’s the case. 
    They’re not and they can’t. It’s gotten to big.

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