NY & LA reserved seats

PJINFLA
PJINFLA Posts: 844
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Wow those seating charts of available reserved seats in MSG & LA for the fan club lottery are a real embarrassment for the 10 club. I'm guessing they have removed the "best seats in the house" wording from the 10 club membership benefit description.
4/22/92 St. Petersburg, 8/23/92 Orlando, 3/29/94 St. Petersburg, 10/7/96 Ft. Lauderdale, 9/8/98 East Rutherford, 9/22/98 West Palm Beach, 9/23/98 West Palm Beach, 8/9/00 West Palm Beach, 8/10/00 West Palm Beach, 8/12/00 Tampa, 4/11/03 West Palm Beach, 4/13/03 Tampa, 6/2/03 Irvine, 6/3/03 Irvine, 9/28/04 Boston, 9/29/04 Boston, 9/1/05 George WA, 9/11/05 Kitchener, 9/12/05 London, 9/13/05 Hamilton, 10/03/05 Philadelphia, 5/16/06 Chicago, 5/17/06 Chicago, 6/23/06 Pittsburgh, 6/24/06 Cincinnati, 6/11/08, West Palm Beach, 6/12/08 Tampa, 6/19/08 Camden, 6/20/08 Camden, 8/23/09 Chicago, 8/24/09 Chicago, 10/27/09 Philadelphia, 10/28/09 Philadelphia, 10/30/09 Philadelphia, 10/31/09 Philadelphia, 5/18/10 New Jersey, 5/20/10 New York, 5/21/10 New York, 9/3/11 East Troy, 9/4/11 East Troy, 9/11/11 Toronto, 9/12/11 Toronto, 9/02/12 Philadelphia, 9/21/12 Pensacola, 7/19/13 Chicago, 10/18/13 Brooklyn, 10/19/13 Brooklyn, 11/23/13 LA, 10/24/13 LA, 11/16/13 Oklahoma City, 10/1/14 Cincinnati, 10/20/14 Milwaukee, 10/22/14 Denver, 4/8/16 Ft. Lauderdale, 4/9/16 Miami, 4/11/16 Tampa, 5/1/16 New York, 5/2/16 New York, 8/5/16 Boston, 8/7/16 Boston, 8/20/16 Chicago, 8/22/16 Chicago, 4/07/17 New York, 8/08/18 Seattle, 8/10/18 Seattle, 8/20/18 Chicago
9/02/18 Boston, 9/04/18 Boston, 9/11/22 New York, 9/16/22 Nashville, 9/22/22 Denver, 8/31/23, St. Paul, 9/2/23 St. Paul, 9/18/23 Austin, 9/19/23 Austin

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  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,961
    The entire sides of the lower bowl unavailable. A new low. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,814
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    The entire sides of the lower bowl unavailable. A new low. 
    The lowest they’ve sunk too! This is a band I don’t recognize anymore 
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  • jefft
    jefft Posts: 678
    WTF 10c
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,687
    edited February 2024
    Don't you think maybe that's what they were given by the venue? They can only do so much. I mean they have about 30-50% of the venue. MSG has less unfortunately. Maybe they had to give something to get something. How many other artists have that many seats for their fanclubs? 
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  • Spurs14
    Spurs14 Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 330
    igotid88 said:
    Don't you think maybe that's what they were given by the venue? They can only do so much. I mean they have about 30-50% of the venue. MSG has less unfortunately. Maybe they had to give something to get something. How many other artists have that many seats for their fanclubs? 

    Then why not play a different venue that is more accommodating to 10c.
    In the NYC area there is Prudential Center, Barclays Center, USB Arena.
    In the LA area there is Honda Center, Crypto.com Arena, Hollywood Bowl.
  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,687
    Spurs14 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Don't you think maybe that's what they were given by the venue? They can only do so much. I mean they have about 30-50% of the venue. MSG has less unfortunately. Maybe they had to give something to get something. How many other artists have that many seats for their fanclubs? 

    Then why not play a different venue that is more accommodating to 10c.
    In the NYC area there is Prudential Center, Barclays Center, USB Arena.
    In the LA area there is Honda Center, Crypto.com Arena, Hollywood Bowl.
    Why would you think those places will be more accommodating? 
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  • Spurs14
    Spurs14 Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 330
    Maybe they wouldn't.  Just saying management could have shopped around for the best deal for the 10c fans.
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,810
    Spurs14 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Don't you think maybe that's what they were given by the venue? They can only do so much. I mean they have about 30-50% of the venue. MSG has less unfortunately. Maybe they had to give something to get something. How many other artists have that many seats for their fanclubs? 

    Then why not play a different venue that is more accommodating to 10c.
    In the NYC area there is Prudential Center, Barclays Center, USB Arena.
    In the LA area there is Honda Center, Crypto.com Arena, Hollywood Bowl.
    Just about all the venues are owned by the same company that owns Ticketmaster.  Unless PJ wants to revert to their 1995 strategy (and that would have its own issues) they’re pretty much stuck making the best deal they can.  All we can do as individuals is vote with our feet by not entering draws where the most likely outcome is getting stuck with an overpriced nosebleed seat.  
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    edited February 2024
    Spurs14 said:
    igotid88 said:
    Don't you think maybe that's what they were given by the venue? They can only do so much. I mean they have about 30-50% of the venue. MSG has less unfortunately. Maybe they had to give something to get something. How many other artists have that many seats for their fanclubs? 

    Then why not play a different venue that is more accommodating to 10c.
    In the NYC area there is Prudential Center, Barclays Center, USB Arena.
    In the LA area there is Honda Center, Crypto.com Arena, Hollywood Bowl.
    Honda Center is an inferior venue that is in Orange County, 40 miles and two hours from downtown L.A. on a weeknight. Staples Center (as it will always be called) is a terrible venue for acoustics, with three levels of corporate boxes and a middle tier of Premier seating that belongs entirely to corporate clients. It's no coincidence that Pearl Jam has never played there in almost 25 years it has been in existence. And the Hollywood Bowl is an outdoor amphitheater that has its own ticketing peculiarities that would mean they would never be able to get the best tickets set aside for Ten Club members.

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,110
    igotid88 said:
    Don't you think maybe that's what they were given by the venue? They can only do so much. I mean they have about 30-50% of the venue. MSG has less unfortunately. Maybe they had to give something to get something. How many other artists have that many seats for their fanclubs? 


    These days, a lot of those lower garden seats are club seats, not this club, but Knick and Ranger club seats. 

    Those seats would never be available to a bands fan club or TM general onsale. The teams keep expanding with new categories of club seats with excellent perks

     These seating charts have been and will be blamed on the band unfortunately. And I’ll probably keep replying. If the band wants to play 32nd and 8th, this is how that world works. Much different than most any other place.
  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,020
    Even the layout of 10c seats for Seattle would be more acceptable than what they’re doing at MSG and LA. But who knows, maybe a big chunk of those grayed sections will be public sale face value…but I highly doubt it. Will be interesting to see if behind the stage is open or not with their new set up; can’t imagine it wouldn’t be.
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,687
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    Even the layout of 10c seats for Seattle would be more acceptable than what they’re doing at MSG and LA. But who knows, maybe a big chunk of those grayed sections will be public sale face value…but I highly doubt it. Will be interesting to see if behind the stage is open or not with their new set up; can’t imagine it wouldn’t be.
    Yes the grayed areas will be available in the public sale or whatever is left after the ticketmaster registration. 
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  • Luckytwn1
    Luckytwn1 Posts: 517
    edited February 2024
    igotid88 said:
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    Even the layout of 10c seats for Seattle would be more acceptable than what they’re doing at MSG and LA. But who knows, maybe a big chunk of those grayed sections will be public sale face value…but I highly doubt it. Will be interesting to see if behind the stage is open or not with their new set up; can’t imagine it wouldn’t be.
    Yes the grayed areas will be available in the public sale or whatever is left after the ticketmaster registration. 
    Highly unlikely, at least at the base price of $185. What limited tickets that are available in those areas will almost certainly be PJ Platinum.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,110
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    Even the layout of 10c seats for Seattle would be more acceptable than what they’re doing at MSG and LA. But who knows, maybe a big chunk of those grayed sections will be public sale face value…but I highly doubt it. Will be interesting to see if behind the stage is open or not with their new set up; can’t imagine it wouldn’t be.

    MSG is almost exactly the same as Seattle, considering MSG has double the major league tenants as Seattle, which has two larger sections blocked out. It’s frustrating but MSG now has more than four full sections on each side that are some level of club seats now, almost all the way back to row 20. Pearl Jam may be the most desirable rock concert for club seat members to exercise their limited right to buy tickets to other events.



  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,687
    Luckytwn1 said:
    igotid88 said:
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    Even the layout of 10c seats for Seattle would be more acceptable than what they’re doing at MSG and LA. But who knows, maybe a big chunk of those grayed sections will be public sale face value…but I highly doubt it. Will be interesting to see if behind the stage is open or not with their new set up; can’t imagine it wouldn’t be.
    Yes the grayed areas will be available in the public sale or whatever is left after the ticketmaster registration. 
    Highly unlikely, at least at the base price of $185. What limited tickets that are available in those areas will almost certainly be PJ Platinum.
    I'm guessing after the 10c and the ticketmaster presale they should have about 10-12k tickets left? If that's the number for example. I don't believe all 10k tickets will be premium. Maybe 1k of the 10k. People forget to filter the selections. So they see the premiums first
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