Dark Matter World Tour 2024

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    PHEW! I was so worried my Floor row 21 single for Vancouver N2 wouldn't sell on TM, given how many minimal priced tix are now available. I am so relieved that someone for some reason thought my ticket was worth buying even though there are plenty of better tickets for the same price, lol. Only 2 more weeks until these shows... could be weird to be at N2... I think they will HAVE to play 1/2 Full, which would be awesome, haha.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Haijay
    Haijay Posts: 439
    PJ_Soul said:
    PHEW! I was so worried my Floor row 21 single for Vancouver N2 wouldn't sell on TM, given how many minimal priced tix are now available. I am so relieved that someone for some reason thought my ticket was worth buying even though there are plenty of better tickets for the same price, lol. Only 2 more weeks until these shows... could be weird to be at N2... I think they will HAVE to play 1/2 Full, which would be awesome, haha.
    Naaaaaa, even if they have to move 800 people from the top to the bottom, it’ll still be full or very close. This is NOT about demand, this is on TM for pulling their usual bs and screwing over not only the fans, but the band. The mgmt should be PISSED about this😡😡😡
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    Haijay said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PHEW! I was so worried my Floor row 21 single for Vancouver N2 wouldn't sell on TM, given how many minimal priced tix are now available. I am so relieved that someone for some reason thought my ticket was worth buying even though there are plenty of better tickets for the same price, lol. Only 2 more weeks until these shows... could be weird to be at N2... I think they will HAVE to play 1/2 Full, which would be awesome, haha.
    Naaaaaa, even if they have to move 800 people from the top to the bottom, it’ll still be full or very close. This is NOT about demand, this is on TM for pulling their usual bs and screwing over not only the fans, but the band. The mgmt should be PISSED about this😡😡😡

    I mean, an empty upper deck and still empty, lol. The problem is 100% ticket prices, no matter whose fault it is. PJ decided to allow those outrageous dynamically priced premium tickets that drove away all the casual fans back during the initial sale, so it's not all TM's fault. PJ absolutely could have prevented that from happening... their excuse is that they did it to leverage more 10C seats... but most 10C seats suck!! Now the band is suffering the consequences of their own decisions when they agreed to certain terms with TM for this tour. Yeah, TM sucks, but this is not simply TM screwing over the band.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Haijay
    Haijay Posts: 439
    TM made everyone register for the sale, and told us that more people signed up than there were tickets available. I know people that didnt get the code to join the sale for either night. Day of sale, both shows “sell out” and tons of premium were sold because of fomo. Then, three weeks ago they released over 1000 lower bowl for night 2 and 300 for night 1. Absolutely criminal what they did, and will continue to😡😡  They are dwindling away, two weeks to go. It’s not PJ’S fault they have to agree to the dynamic shit, necessary evil for all artists, unfortunately 
  • Human Tide
    Human Tide Posts: 329
    edited April 2024
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  • PJ_Soul said:
    Haijay said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PHEW! I was so worried my Floor row 21 single for Vancouver N2 wouldn't sell on TM, given how many minimal priced tix are now available. I am so relieved that someone for some reason thought my ticket was worth buying even though there are plenty of better tickets for the same price, lol. Only 2 more weeks until these shows... could be weird to be at N2... I think they will HAVE to play 1/2 Full, which would be awesome, haha.
    Naaaaaa, even if they have to move 800 people from the top to the bottom, it’ll still be full or very close. This is NOT about demand, this is on TM for pulling their usual bs and screwing over not only the fans, but the band. The mgmt should be PISSED about this😡😡😡

    I mean, an empty upper deck and still empty, lol. The problem is 100% ticket prices, no matter whose fault it is. PJ decided to allow those outrageous dynamically priced premium tickets that drove away all the casual fans back during the initial sale, so it's not all TM's fault. PJ absolutely could have prevented that from happening... their excuse is that they did it to leverage more 10C seats... but most 10C seats suck!! Now the band is suffering the consequences of their own decisions when they agreed to certain terms with TM for this tour. Yeah, TM sucks, but this is not simply TM screwing over the band.
    I couldn't agree more. This is exactly what's happened.
    The ridiculous pricing as well as holding back pretty much all of the lower bowl at the very beginning of the initial sale drove away all the casual fans who probably would've bought tickets. Now they've moved on and I don't believe they're just sitting around waiting for the tickets prices to come down. I have a decent 10c number and I've sold both nights of my 10c tickets on the floor because I can so easily buy better tickets in the wings now.
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  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,655
    edited April 2024
    If they just did tier prices. if you take standard arena capacity with no rear seating. 15000 seats. x 150 ( Before Fees) $2.25 mil, Gross Gate,.. Now take GA 1000 x 250 EA .. $250K, Lower Wings, close floor 1000 Seats x $250 EA , 250K, Rest of the lower Bowl 6000 Seats x 200 ea -$1.2Mil, upper bowl 7000, 100 ea - $700K,...  that would be $ 2.4 Mil Gross gate.... I would pay a little more for GA or Close wings,  with out dealing with all the BS... 
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  • mjf14o
    mjf14o Posts: 4
    edited April 2024
    How are tickets posted on Gametime and Stubhub if tickets are non transferable?  I’m so pissed, had a fan exchange floor seat in my que and someone snatched it.  Now showing on 3rd party sites for 3x the price.
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  • KJ228171
    KJ228171 Posts: 465
    edited April 2024
    mjf14o said:
    How are tickets posted on Gametime and Stubhub if tickets are non transferable?  I’m so pissed, had a fan exchange floor seat in my que and someone snatched it.  Now showing on 3rd party sites for 3x the price. 

    Non transferable is the biggest myth in the ticketing industry. It's a half-hearted attempt at best. There are workarounds.

    It's called "eTicket URL transferless transfer"

    Link sent to email for a website where the tickets are hosted. It will never hit your Ticketmaster account. The whole "non-transferable" thing only punishes people that follow the rules and the intent of the artist. It's performative. Biggest risk is that a seller double or triple sells a ticket. Then it's the first to use that gets in and the others are SOL. It's not a big problem but it does exist. There is just too much money for brokers not to find a way. I kind of wish we could go back to paper non home printed tickets. Scalping was still a thing but not nearly on this scale. Now you have people thousands of miles away getting in on it.

    GA Tickets for U2 at the Sphere where called "non transferable" but they where.

    Most recently Hozier has the same setup as Pearl Jam with "non transferable" Fan2Fan resales. Tour kicked off last time and guess what? All the StubHub, Vivid, Gametime, Seat Geek tickets all worked by URL to website.

    Brokers even rent access to TM accounts with the purchased tickets to get around it.


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  • kramerica4
    kramerica4 Posts: 284
    Wow - there is a massive amount of tickets still unsold for the Vancouver shows (night 2 looks horrible).
    TM fucked this one up big time.
  • JG257896
    JG257896 Posts: 23
    Putting two tickets for Seattle night two up on Fan to Fan. Sec 126 Row D. Good luck
  • JG257896
    JG257896 Posts: 23
    Putting two tickets for Philly night two up on Fan to Fan Sec 211 Row 1 Good luck
  • I can't believe they still haven't let us know about selling our tickets, I have 2 tix for N2 in Vancouver, I need to get rid of them! ugh
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,802
    I can't believe they still haven't let us know about selling our tickets, I have 2 tix for N2 in Vancouver, I need to get rid of them! ugh
    you can sell on TM, for a long time now
  • Does anyone know if there will be a pop-up shop in Seattle like there was last time?
  • Oh, another very important question I saw someone else post (but I don't think it was answered): once you're in, you won't have to show the barcode on your phone again, right? In other words, if you got a ticket for another person but in a different section, and they have to leave their seat to go to the bathroom, etc., as long as they don't leave the stadium and go outside, the person who has the tickets on their phone doesn't have to go with them, right? I know it sounds absurd, but they are being so strict I just want to make sure. 
  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    Oh, another very important question I saw someone else post (but I don't think it was answered): once you're in, you won't have to show the barcode on your phone again, right? In other words, if you got a ticket for another person but in a different section, and they have to leave their seat to go to the bathroom, etc., as long as they don't leave the stadium and go outside, the person who has the tickets on their phone doesn't have to go with them, right? I know it sounds absurd, but they are being so strict I just want to make sure. 
    Right. The barcode can only be scanned once, so there's no point in showing it again. For the most part, once you're in, you can come and go as you please without having to show your ticket again. However, there's always a chance that ushers may check tickets going into certain sections. So once you get the barcodes scanned upon your initial entry into the venue, you can then just send screenshots to the people who will be sitting in those particular seats.
  • PinoyPJ
    PinoyPJ Los Angeles, CA Posts: 383
    Oh, another very important question I saw someone else post (but I don't think it was answered): once you're in, you won't have to show the barcode on your phone again, right? In other words, if you got a ticket for another person but in a different section, and they have to leave their seat to go to the bathroom, etc., as long as they don't leave the stadium and go outside, the person who has the tickets on their phone doesn't have to go with them, right? I know it sounds absurd, but they are being so strict I just want to make sure. 
    true. you dont need it once on. GA or PIT gets wristbands or some sort of stamp.
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  • thirdbeach
    thirdbeach Posts: 228
    CROJAM95 said:
    I can't believe they still haven't let us know about selling our tickets, I have 2 tix for N2 in Vancouver, I need to get rid of them! ugh
    you can sell on TM, for a long time now
    Hello - I am in the same boat.  You can sell them on Ticketmaster but you need a Canadian bank account.  It's odd because I bought the tickets with a credit card.  I started setting up a Wise account but stopped after finding out they want all of my information including social security number, address, phone, photo ID and an uploaded picture of myself.  Cloud based international bank - no thanks.  I have talked to Ticketmaster, Tickets today and have an e-mail in to the ten club.  This has been a fiasco to say the least.  Honestly the worst ticket experience I have ever had.  If they were physical tickets there would be zero issues.  I will most likely be giving these away to someone at the door.  SUPER LAME DEAL.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    I can't believe they still haven't let us know about selling our tickets, I have 2 tix for N2 in Vancouver, I need to get rid of them! ugh

    We've been able to sell them for weeks now. Yeah, there was no notification about it. We just needed to keep checking.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata