Pearl Jam Dark Matter (preview)

mace1229

F Me In The Brain said:

dwjmu84 said:

BF25394 said:

Edved82 said:

Cannot wait to hear more of this. Not to be a downer but I found the Stones album to sound a bit glossy and overproduced and I got the same feeling from this track snippet, so it seems this might be Watt's trademark. Saying that, I can't wait to hear the album and hear what they've come up with this time.

Well, Pearl Jam's glossiest, most overproduced album is their biggest-selling one as well as the one that many of their mainstream fans seem to cherish the most.

fixed it for you.

Is that a dig at fans who rank Ten #1 or fans who rank Riot Act above Ten?
Can't tell.

I didn’t think it was a dig. I had the same thought. It seems like for more of the Pearl Jam fanbase, 10 is not their favorite album. For the casual fan, or just fans of 90s music but not PJ fans per se, 10 is their favorite. I hear PJ called a one album band by non PJ fans frequently. 10 is about the only songs that get radio play anymore, with a rare letterman thrown in every once in a while.
So I didn’t take his comment at a dig at anyone. Just an observation.

F Me In The Brain

Ten ranks #1.  I love the first 5 almost on the same level but nothing can top the significance of Ten for me.

Signed, 

Casual/Mainstream 10C member 


I hope this one is like Ten.  Very much so!   Please be the opposite of Gigaton,far and away my least favorite 

dwjmu84

Don’t get panties in a bunch folks. It was not a dig at anyone. I was making the point that ten is the clear favorite album among many mainstream/more casual fans. This is not debatable. Then, you have 10c’ers, 100 show fans, insiders, there from the star fans, etc. and for that group, you tend to see WAY more variation in album rankings, often with yield, binaural, and no code topping lists. 

Let’s take a breath. Nothing personal here, ever. All good intentions !

F Me In The Brain

I winked with my note, was just curious.  It doesn't matter to me what record others like most.  
I could put No Code, Vs, or Yield at the top....but never Binaural.   

BF25394

dwjmu84 said:

Don’t get panties in a bunch folks. It was not a dig at anyone. I was making the point that ten is the clear favorite album among many mainstream/more casual fans. This is not debatable. Then, you have 10c’ers, 100 show fans, insiders, there from the star fans, etc. and for that group, you tend to see WAY more variation in album rankings, often with yield, binaural, and no code topping lists. 

Let’s take a breath. Nothing personal here, ever. All good intentions !

So what you're saying is that, among the cohort of fans who only own one or two Pearl Jam album, one of which is Ten, Ten is their favorite album, but among Pearl Jam fans who own several albums, some fans prefer Ten and some prefer other Pearl Jam albums. Did we need this clarification?

Meanwhile, what I said was that many Pearl Jam fans seem to cherish Ten the most. Again, I'm not sure how this statement is inaccurate.

I also think that you'll find that, even among the diehards here, Ten remains quite beloved. I am regularly involved in conversations on this site where I'm one of the few people saying I don't ever need to hear the songs from Ten again, while six times as many other people are saying they don't have much interest in anything the band has done since 1998.

And getting back to the original point, which had to do with production, even the band believes that Ten is overproduced, to the point that they asked Brendan O'Brien to remix it for the deluxe reissue. That remix is noticeably less slick and glossy than the Rick Parashar version.

So, to the person who observed that the brief clip of "Dark Matter" sounded glossy and overproduced-- a characteristic I did not hear-- I simply noted that Pearl Jam has had a lot of success with one particular glossy, overproduced record.

Zod

mace1229 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

dwjmu84 said:

BF25394 said:

Edved82 said:

Cannot wait to hear more of this. Not to be a downer but I found the Stones album to sound a bit glossy and overproduced and I got the same feeling from this track snippet, so it seems this might be Watt's trademark. Saying that, I can't wait to hear the album and hear what they've come up with this time.

Well, Pearl Jam's glossiest, most overproduced album is their biggest-selling one as well as the one that many of their mainstream fans seem to cherish the most.

fixed it for you.

Is that a dig at fans who rank Ten #1 or fans who rank Riot Act above Ten?
Can't tell.

I didn’t think it was a dig. I had the same thought. It seems like for more of the Pearl Jam fanbase, 10 is not their favorite album. For the casual fan, or just fans of 90s music but not PJ fans per se, 10 is their favorite. I hear PJ called a one album band by non PJ fans frequently. 10 is about the only songs that get radio play anymore, with a rare letterman thrown in every once in a while.
So I didn’t take his comment at a dig at anyone. Just an observation.

That last bit makes me sad.   When we lived through that era, the stuff from 10/Vs./Vitalogy got massive radio play and had massive hits.  Even stuff like Betterman that wasn't a single, blew up and got massive radioplay.   It's a shame that greatest hits radio doesn't spend more time at least adventuring through the 3 really big albums.   You're unfortunately correct, it's mostly ten that gets radio airplay now

SM187650

I hear daughter and betterman just as often if not more than Jeremy, evenflow, and alive. Although I do agree it’s a shame we don’t hear much from the other albums. 

F Me In The Brain

I've not once heard a gigaton song on radio

mcgruff10

F Me In The Brain said:

I've not once heard a gigaton song on radio

Same here.  Nothing off gigaton, backspacer, lightening bolt or even self titled.  Last one I can remember is "I am mine."

igotid88

F Me In The Brain said:

I've not once heard a gigaton song on radio

I have.

F Me In The Brain

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I've not once heard a gigaton song on radio

Same here.  Nothing off gigaton, backspacer, lightening bolt or even self titled.  Last one I can remember is "I am mine."

They played Sirens a shitton for a few years
  Not since then

mr bungle

F Me In The Brain said:

I've not once heard a gigaton song on radio

Up here in Seattle, they played the hell out of DOTC when it first came out.  But no other tracks from the album.

deb1211

I heard DOTC a few times on radio when it first came out..that was it 

kmcmanus

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I've not once heard a gigaton song on radio

Same here.  Nothing off gigaton, backspacer, lightening bolt or even self titled.  Last one I can remember is "I am mine."

Just Breathe was a legitimate hit

mcgruff10

kmcmanus said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I've not once heard a gigaton song on radio

Same here.  Nothing off gigaton, backspacer, lightening bolt or even self titled.  Last one I can remember is "I am mine."

Just Breathe was a legitimate hit

You are absolutely correct.  But I don’t remember it on the radio.  Maybe Covid is killing my memory.  Lol

MJ178168

Lukeat911 said:

I can’t escape

I guess you have to drink it.  

Kwieneke

kmcmanus said:

mcgruff10 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

I've not once heard a gigaton song on radio

Same here.  Nothing off gigaton, backspacer, lightening bolt or even self titled.  Last one I can remember is "I am mine."

Just Breathe was a legitimate hit

Came to say this too. It did slip my mind at first though 

JKestle

BF25394 said:

igotid88 said:

Both snippets sound like they could be the start of the song

They do, but it could also be that the 30-second clip follows the 25-second clip, or the 30-second clip follows the first verse. We'll find out soon enough. We have 55 seconds of this song; can't we just have the rest now? Please, Mom!

I think the drum intro is identical in the two clips. It would be a bit strange if this were two different parts of the song.

When Queens were teasing ITNR last year they released snipets of stems that didn't have all the tracked instruments playing, I wonder if that's what's happening here... the wiki clip being the full clip with guitars engaged.

Just a theory

igotid88

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3MROLexpZm/?igsh=NG50YmQydDZtbXN1

Vedd Hedd

93.1 WXRT in Chicago plays a lot of the deeper cuts, and stuff from Yield, Binaural, etc. Still hear lots of Gigaton and Earthlings too