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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    mickeyrat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    The problem is that he came out immediately thanking god and saying the nuclear facilities were "totally obliterated."

    Any deviation from that is considered a contradiction that cannot be tolerated. He is always right.

    I do think it's funny that the presser this morning focused on how "first reports are never completely correct" yet the first report came from fatmouth trump who said it was totally obliterated. 

    So...was trump's initial report incorrect by that standard? If initial reports are never correct then how is he so certain?



    but its with everything....
    The President only has so much vocabulary to use. Hes incapable of using other adjectives.  Cut him some uuuuge slack.
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,739
    its so painful listening to him. such a dummy.
  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    NO MORE WARS!!!!! Stop bombing people!!!!! 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,427
    Fuck Israel. Go ahead, explain how and why you support this.

    Israeli strikes kill more than 60 people in Gaza, health officials say

    Latest deaths come amid worsening humanitarian situation despite renewed hope for ceasefire

    At least 62 people have been killed in Gaza by overnight Israeli strikes, according to health officials, as the humanitarian situation worsens in the besieged strip despite renewed hope for a ceasefire.

    Airstrikes began overnight on Friday and continued into Saturday morning, killing a dozen people near a displacement shelter near Palestine Stadium in Gaza City. A strike at midday on Saturday killed at least 11 people.

    A displaced family in a tent was killed in an Israeli strike in al-Mawasi, southern Gaza, while they were sleeping.

    Israel’s war in Gaza has killed more than 56,000 people, half of whom are women and children, local health authorities say.

    Famine-like conditions reign in Gaza after a two-and-a-half month blockade imposed by Israel on all food until late May, since when Israel has allowed only a dribble of humanitarian aid into the strip.

    Israel launched the war in Gaza after Hamas terrorists attacked Israel on 7 October 2023, killing about 1,200 people and taking about 250 people hostage.

    The latest killings come as a ceasefire in Gaza seems within reach, with Donald Trump saying on Friday that an agreement could come within a week. “I think it’s close,” the US president said. “I just spoke to some of the people involved. We think within the next week we’re going to get a ceasefire.”

    Reports say Israel’s minister for strategic affairs, Ron Dermer, will visit Washington next week to discuss the ceasefire, among other topics.

    The recent ceasefire with Iran, which ended a 12-day conflict that Israel perceived to be a great success, might provide breathing room for long-stalled peace talks. Benjamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, said on Thursday: “Along with releasing our hostages and defeating Hamas, there is an opportunity, a window of opportunity has opened and it can’t be missed. Not even a single day can be wasted.”

    Fighting started anew in Gaza in March, when Israel restarted its war after refusing to move to a second phase of a January ceasefire that could have led to a more permanent truce. Negotiations since then have so far been fruitless, with Hamas insisting on a total end to the war in Gaza – a demand Israel has rejected.

    Since the breakdown of the March ceasefire, more than 6,000 people have been killed in Gaza. Israel, for its part, says its aim for continuing the war is to return about 50 hostages who remain in Gaza, 30 of whom are presumed to be dead. Hamas has said it is willing to free all the hostages if there is a permanent truce, but Netanyahu wants the militant group to be completely dismantled in Gaza.

    The most recent US proposal for a ceasefire involved a 60-day pause in fighting and renewed talks to achieve long-term peace, in addition to the release of half of all living hostages and half of the deceased. Hamas previously requested amendments to the proposal to release fewer hostages and for a permanent truce, which was rejected by US Middle East envoy, Steve Witkoff, at the end of May.

    As ceasefire talks have languished, humanitarian conditions in Gaza have sharply deteriorated. Unicef said last week that 60% of water production facilities in Gaza were out of order and that there was a 50% increase in acute child malnutrition from April to May.

    Scenes of chaos unfold every day as crowds of hungry Palestinians have had to walk miles and contend with confusing sets of rules to access food, now distributed from set points run by the private American initiative the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF).

    More than 500 people have been shot dead by Israeli forces as they have attempted to get aid from GHF distribution points, with witnesses accusing Israeli soldiers shooting directly at crowds. The Israeli military said it was investigating such incidents.

    Fifteen international human rights organisations have called on the GHF to halt its operations in Gaza, saying it risks being complicit in war crimes. The organisations also accused the GHF of violating the principles of neutrality and independence, cornerstones of humanitarian work.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/28/israeli-strikes-kill-scores-of-people-in-gaza-health-officials-say

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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,975
    Fuck terrorism.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    edited June 29
    Fuck shit countries breaking international law to bomb other countries
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,427
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Fuck terrorism.
    Particularly Israeli terrorism due to the $4B+ of US funding.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Fuck terrorism.
    You forgot "fuck collateral damage".  Because that's what this is.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,427
    Bibi acting with impunity. Nice. And fuck the dozens of other people, eh? 

    Israeli strike on cafe near Gaza City port kills dozens, hospital official says

    CNN — 

    More than 40 people have been killed in an Israeli airstrike that hit a cafe near the port in Gaza City, according to the head of the territory’s largest hospital.

    Dr. Mohammad Abu Silmiya, the director of Al-Shifa hospital, said in an update on Monday night that at least 41 people had been killed and 75 injured in the strike.

    Videos geolocated by CNN show thick smoke rising from the scene as well as widespread damage to the cafe and the surrounding area. They also showed bodies being removed on stretchers.

    The Israel Defense Forces told CNN that the incident is “under review.” In response to questions about the strike, the IDF said, “Earlier today (Monday), the IDF struck several Hamas terrorists in the northern Gaza Strip. Prior to the strike, steps were taken to mitigate the risk of harming civilians using aerial surveillance.”

    The Al-Baqa cafe was a well-known spot for students, journalists and remote workers, as it offered internet and a place to work by the Mediterranean coast.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/30/middleeast/israeli-strike-gaza-city-cafe-latam-intl

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  • mickeyrat
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    https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-gaza-food-c08079f831c44442a19ffd21fcea8de4
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    https://apnews.com/article/trump-netanyahu-israel-hamas-iran-858db32968941012117dfb7d391e6f3c
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  • static111
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    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Fuck terrorism.
    You forgot "fuck collateral damage".  Because that's what this is.  
    When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?
    Scio me nihil scire

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  • mrussel1
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    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Fuck terrorism.
    You forgot "fuck collateral damage".  Because that's what this is.  
    When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?
    As soon as I read the teachings of Jesus. 
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,975
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Fuck terrorism.
    You forgot "fuck collateral damage".  Because that's what this is.  
    When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

    Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

    my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,887
    edited July 1
    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Fuck terrorism.
    You forgot "fuck collateral damage".  Because that's what this is.  
    When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

    Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

    my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
    Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people?  I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid.  All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment.  But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.  

    And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics.  This is most amoral of any position you could take.  
    Post edited by mrussel1 on
  • Merkin Baller
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Fuck terrorism.
    You forgot "fuck collateral damage".  Because that's what this is.  
    When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?
    my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. 
    We know. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,231
    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Fuck terrorism.
    You forgot "fuck collateral damage".  Because that's what this is.  
    When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

    Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

    my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
    um, the palestinian people are not their leaders.

    and i ask you again, how much palestinian blood will be enough to make 10/7 avenged?

    you are throwing your lot in with the oppressors. how dare you criticize anybody else?

    i think you need to do some reflection on your position here. you are on the moral low ground.
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  • static111
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Fuck terrorism.
    You forgot "fuck collateral damage".  Because that's what this is.  
    When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

    Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

    my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
    Way to go making things up again.  For being the smartest guy in the room you sure do fall back on fabricating the positions of others to justify your blathering.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Fuck terrorism.
    You forgot "fuck collateral damage".  Because that's what this is.  
    When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

    Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

    my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.

    nope just their goverment and sychophantic supporters 
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  • Lerxst1992
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    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Fuck terrorism.
    You forgot "fuck collateral damage".  Because that's what this is.  
    When did you become a card carrying anti USA Marxist?

    Of course Palestinians get a free pass to what their leadership always does, as it did to start this particular war, but every person in Israel gets cursed out regularly on lunatic forums, despite being the actual victims of genocide. Wonder why. But we are a well moderated community.

    my only care is how mid east impacts American politics. And where the dem party is headed on mid east politics is suicidal. Can the Dems become even more irrelevant? Probably.
    Where do you see me or anyone here criticizing the Israeli people?  I have never said a word about them, saving my criticism for Bibby and the Lukid.  All I know is that YOU don't appear to have any concern about the Palestinian people, considering your callous comment.  But then you justify it by criticizing us for something we never did.  

    And then you follow up by saying you don't care about any of those people, only how it affects US politics.  This is most amoral of any position you could take.  
    Bolded- I was referring to US supporting Israel. Not how you interpreted..

    There was a simple way not to have this war. That’s to not attack Israel and kill their women and children during a ceasefire. The second way to end it once it started is to operate how normal countries operate, by negotiating a peace treaty.

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