Middle East ......

Halifax2TheMax

Get_Right said:

Not really contemporaneous, but that money was designed to keep the peace and build infrastructure. And make no mistake that money was designed to keep Israel in power while giving aid to Palestinians. Keep drinking the kool aid. The US supports Israel because they buy weapons and pay for lobbyists and political campaigns. It is all about money. Perhaps the Palestinians should try that approach instead

A lot different than saying, “oh, wait, ‘no one’ will give them any money. I wonder why that is”, eh?

Get_Right

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No its not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But lets protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Halifax2TheMax

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Get_Right

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Halifax2TheMax

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Tell us what the “defeat of Hamas” looks like and what comes after. 

Defenders of Israel act as if the nation of Israel has done nothing wrong to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza and that they’re truly innocent in every thing. Just minding their business, treating Palestinians as equals, not seizing land or homes, imprisoning thousands without charge, restricting movement and committing acts of not only war crimes but genocide. While Palestinians chant “river to the sea” , Israel quietly goes about making it happen. Let’s not pretend these are not truths and let’s not lie about them occurring.

To achieve peace, both sides must be considered part of humanity. I acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Can you say the same for Palestine?

Get_Right

Nothing good comes from war. And as I said there are no simple solutions to this conflict. Some see Israel as defending what they believe is theirs while others see it as taking something from others. It is not something you and I will resolve here. It is sad and ugly either way. Let's agree on that. 

Halifax2TheMax

Get_Right said:

Nothing good comes from war. And as I said there are no simple solutions to this conflict. Some see Israel as defending what they believe is theirs while others see it as taking something from others. It is not something you and I will resolve here. It is sad and ugly either way. Let's agree on that. 

You didn’t answer the question so I’ll take that as a no. Thanks, I now know where you stand and explains a lot.

”Sad and ugly, either way.” That we can agree on.

Lerxst1992

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Tell us what the “defeat of Hamas” looks like and what comes after. 

Defenders of Israel act as if the nation of Israel has done nothing wrong to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza and that they’re truly innocent in every thing. Just minding their business, treating Palestinians as equals, not seizing land or homes, imprisoning thousands without charge, restricting movement and committing acts of not only war crimes but genocide. While Palestinians chant “river to the sea” , Israel quietly goes about making it happen. Let’s not pretend these are not truths and let’s not lie about them occurring.

To achieve peace, both sides must be considered part of humanity. I acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Can you say the same for Palestine?

as long as they are run by a terrorist organization that conducts kamikaze style attacks to kill women and children, how can they exist peacefully? It’s an absurd question. 

This current argument has been ongoing for two years for one reason and one reason alone, Palestine initiated an attack because it was not happy with Israel forwarding another peace deal in the region. This time with Saudi Arabia

And if people wanna throw out the ridiculous fake attacks of genocide, defend that baseless attack with why there are not 100 million Jews living in that region right now. 

It’s a one-word answer. Why don’t you give it a try

mickeyrat

Get_Right said:

Not really contemporaneous, but that money was designed to keep the peace and build infrastructure. And make no mistake that money was designed to keep Israel in power while giving aid to Palestinians. Keep drinking the kool aid. The US supports Israel because they buy weapons and pay for lobbyists and political campaigns. It is all about money. Perhaps the Palestinians should try that approach instead

they dont buy our weapons. they are GIVEN those weapons

mickeyrat

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Tell us what the “defeat of Hamas” looks like and what comes after. 

Defenders of Israel act as if the nation of Israel has done nothing wrong to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza and that they’re truly innocent in every thing. Just minding their business, treating Palestinians as equals, not seizing land or homes, imprisoning thousands without charge, restricting movement and committing acts of not only war crimes but genocide. While Palestinians chant “river to the sea” , Israel quietly goes about making it happen. Let’s not pretend these are not truths and let’s not lie about them occurring.

To achieve peace, both sides must be considered part of humanity. I acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Can you say the same for Palestine?

as long as they are run by a terrorist organization that conducts kamikaze style attacks to kill women and children, how can they exist peacefully? It’s an absurd question. 

This current argument has been ongoing for two years for one reason and one reason alone, Palestine initiated an attack because it was not happy with Israel forwarding another peace deal in the region. This time with Saudi Arabia

And if people wanna throw out the ridiculous fake attacks of genocide, defend that baseless attack with why there are not 100 million Jews living in that region right now. 

It’s a one-word answer. Why don’t you give it a try

and Hamas speaks for all Palestinians now?

OH THATS RIGHT. ALL PALESTINIANS ARE HAMAS.  I forgot. my bad.

Lerxst1992

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Tell us what the “defeat of Hamas” looks like and what comes after. 

Defenders of Israel act as if the nation of Israel has done nothing wrong to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza and that they’re truly innocent in every thing. Just minding their business, treating Palestinians as equals, not seizing land or homes, imprisoning thousands without charge, restricting movement and committing acts of not only war crimes but genocide. While Palestinians chant “river to the sea” , Israel quietly goes about making it happen. Let’s not pretend these are not truths and let’s not lie about them occurring.

To achieve peace, both sides must be considered part of humanity. I acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Can you say the same for Palestine?

as long as they are run by a terrorist organization that conducts kamikaze style attacks to kill women and children, how can they exist peacefully? It’s an absurd question. 

This current argument has been ongoing for two years for one reason and one reason alone, Palestine initiated an attack because it was not happy with Israel forwarding another peace deal in the region. This time with Saudi Arabia

And if people wanna throw out the ridiculous fake attacks of genocide, defend that baseless attack with why there are not 100 million Jews living in that region right now. 

It’s a one-word answer. Why don’t you give it a try

and Hamas speaks for all Palestinians now?

OH THATS RIGHT. ALL PALESTINIANS ARE HAMAS.  I forgot. my bad.

WHATABOUTISM, has NOTHING to do with Palestine, because it occurred before that was a thing


It’s a one word answer, give honesty a try.

Lerxst1992

Get_Right said:

Not really contemporaneous, but that money was designed to keep the peace and build infrastructure. And make no mistake that money was designed to keep Israel in power while giving aid to Palestinians. Keep drinking the kool aid. The US supports Israel because they buy weapons and pay for lobbyists and political campaigns. It is all about money. Perhaps the Palestinians should try that approach instead

As interesting as bringing up military aid is, the economic explanation is more significant. The United States would like a western style government in place that has influence in the region.

 They want to see cities like Abu Dhabi and Doha become more common in the Middle East. They want a western style economy that could generate growth, trade, all the things we like to see in America.

 The Palestinian extremists will die to the death to prevent that from happening. So if you want to talk about how best to serve the women and children and people of Palestine food and shelter and peace, which story gets that to them? Living in the past with terrorism, or economic growth in the future?

This is why Palestine is willing to die to continue this war

mickeyrat

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Tell us what the “defeat of Hamas” looks like and what comes after. 

Defenders of Israel act as if the nation of Israel has done nothing wrong to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza and that they’re truly innocent in every thing. Just minding their business, treating Palestinians as equals, not seizing land or homes, imprisoning thousands without charge, restricting movement and committing acts of not only war crimes but genocide. While Palestinians chant “river to the sea” , Israel quietly goes about making it happen. Let’s not pretend these are not truths and let’s not lie about them occurring.

To achieve peace, both sides must be considered part of humanity. I acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Can you say the same for Palestine?

as long as they are run by a terrorist organization that conducts kamikaze style attacks to kill women and children, how can they exist peacefully? It’s an absurd question. 

This current argument has been ongoing for two years for one reason and one reason alone, Palestine initiated an attack because it was not happy with Israel forwarding another peace deal in the region. This time with Saudi Arabia

And if people wanna throw out the ridiculous fake attacks of genocide, defend that baseless attack with why there are not 100 million Jews living in that region right now. 

It’s a one-word answer. Why don’t you give it a try

and Hamas speaks for all Palestinians now?

OH THATS RIGHT. ALL PALESTINIANS ARE HAMAS.  I forgot. my bad.

WHATABOUTISM, has NOTHING to do with Palestine, because it occurred before that was a thing


It’s a one word answer, give honesty a try.

"Palestine initiated an attack "

YOUR statement.

And here  I thought Hamas perpetrated that horrific attack. Not those kids subsequently killed by the government of Israel.  But it was the whole of Palestine according to you who did this batbaric thing. Thanks for the correction.

was it the political wing of hamas or the terrorist wing?

Halifax2TheMax

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Tell us what the “defeat of Hamas” looks like and what comes after. 

Defenders of Israel act as if the nation of Israel has done nothing wrong to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza and that they’re truly innocent in every thing. Just minding their business, treating Palestinians as equals, not seizing land or homes, imprisoning thousands without charge, restricting movement and committing acts of not only war crimes but genocide. While Palestinians chant “river to the sea” , Israel quietly goes about making it happen. Let’s not pretend these are not truths and let’s not lie about them occurring.

To achieve peace, both sides must be considered part of humanity. I acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Can you say the same for Palestine?

as long as they are run by a terrorist organization that conducts kamikaze style attacks to kill women and children, how can they exist peacefully? It’s an absurd question. 

This current argument has been ongoing for two years for one reason and one reason alone, Palestine initiated an attack because it was not happy with Israel forwarding another peace deal in the region. This time with Saudi Arabia

And if people wanna throw out the ridiculous fake attacks of genocide, defend that baseless attack with why there are not 100 million Jews living in that region right now. 

It’s a one-word answer. Why don’t you give it a try

and Hamas speaks for all Palestinians now?

OH THATS RIGHT. ALL PALESTINIANS ARE HAMAS.  I forgot. my bad.

WHATABOUTISM, has NOTHING to do with Palestine, because it occurred before that was a thing


It’s a one word answer, give honesty a try.

"Palestine initiated an attack "

YOUR statement.

And here  I thought Hamas perpetrated that horrific attack. Not those kids subsequently killed by the government of Israel.  But it was the whole of Palestine according to you who did this batbaric thing. Thanks for the correction.

was it the political wing of hamas or the terrorist wing?

We were also told that the West Bank had nothing to do with the events of 10/07 and to bear witness to how well the Palestinians of the West Bank were being treated as evidence. What’s the truth of that statement today?

DarthMaeglin

Halifax2TheMax said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Tell us what the “defeat of Hamas” looks like and what comes after. 

Defenders of Israel act as if the nation of Israel has done nothing wrong to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza and that they’re truly innocent in every thing. Just minding their business, treating Palestinians as equals, not seizing land or homes, imprisoning thousands without charge, restricting movement and committing acts of not only war crimes but genocide. While Palestinians chant “river to the sea” , Israel quietly goes about making it happen. Let’s not pretend these are not truths and let’s not lie about them occurring.

To achieve peace, both sides must be considered part of humanity. I acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Can you say the same for Palestine?

as long as they are run by a terrorist organization that conducts kamikaze style attacks to kill women and children, how can they exist peacefully? It’s an absurd question. 

This current argument has been ongoing for two years for one reason and one reason alone, Palestine initiated an attack because it was not happy with Israel forwarding another peace deal in the region. This time with Saudi Arabia

And if people wanna throw out the ridiculous fake attacks of genocide, defend that baseless attack with why there are not 100 million Jews living in that region right now. 

It’s a one-word answer. Why don’t you give it a try

and Hamas speaks for all Palestinians now?

OH THATS RIGHT. ALL PALESTINIANS ARE HAMAS.  I forgot. my bad.

WHATABOUTISM, has NOTHING to do with Palestine, because it occurred before that was a thing


It’s a one word answer, give honesty a try.

"Palestine initiated an attack "

YOUR statement.

And here  I thought Hamas perpetrated that horrific attack. Not those kids subsequently killed by the government of Israel.  But it was the whole of Palestine according to you who did this batbaric thing. Thanks for the correction.

was it the political wing of hamas or the terrorist wing?

We were also told that the West Bank had nothing to do with the events of 10/07 and to bear witness to how well the Palestinians of the West Bank were being treated as evidence. What’s the truth of that statement today?

What if one condones most of Israel’s actions in Gaza but condemns their actions in the West Bank?

mickeyrat

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Tell us what the “defeat of Hamas” looks like and what comes after. 

Defenders of Israel act as if the nation of Israel has done nothing wrong to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza and that they’re truly innocent in every thing. Just minding their business, treating Palestinians as equals, not seizing land or homes, imprisoning thousands without charge, restricting movement and committing acts of not only war crimes but genocide. While Palestinians chant “river to the sea” , Israel quietly goes about making it happen. Let’s not pretend these are not truths and let’s not lie about them occurring.

To achieve peace, both sides must be considered part of humanity. I acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Can you say the same for Palestine?

as long as they are run by a terrorist organization that conducts kamikaze style attacks to kill women and children, how can they exist peacefully? It’s an absurd question. 

This current argument has been ongoing for two years for one reason and one reason alone, Palestine initiated an attack because it was not happy with Israel forwarding another peace deal in the region. This time with Saudi Arabia

And if people wanna throw out the ridiculous fake attacks of genocide, defend that baseless attack with why there are not 100 million Jews living in that region right now. 

It’s a one-word answer. Why don’t you give it a try

and Hamas speaks for all Palestinians now?

OH THATS RIGHT. ALL PALESTINIANS ARE HAMAS.  I forgot. my bad.

WHATABOUTISM, has NOTHING to do with Palestine, because it occurred before that was a thing


It’s a one word answer, give honesty a try.

"Palestine initiated an attack "

YOUR statement.

And here  I thought Hamas perpetrated that horrific attack. Not those kids subsequently killed by the government of Israel.  But it was the whole of Palestine according to you who did this batbaric thing. Thanks for the correction.

was it the political wing of hamas or the terrorist wing?

We were also told that the West Bank had nothing to do with the events of 10/07 and to bear witness to how well the Palestinians of the West Bank were being treated as evidence. What’s the truth of that statement today?

What if one condones most of Israel’s actions in Gaza but condemns their actions in the West Bank?

you still condone the murder of civilians.

DarthMaeglin

mickeyrat said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Tell us what the “defeat of Hamas” looks like and what comes after. 

Defenders of Israel act as if the nation of Israel has done nothing wrong to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza and that they’re truly innocent in every thing. Just minding their business, treating Palestinians as equals, not seizing land or homes, imprisoning thousands without charge, restricting movement and committing acts of not only war crimes but genocide. While Palestinians chant “river to the sea” , Israel quietly goes about making it happen. Let’s not pretend these are not truths and let’s not lie about them occurring.

To achieve peace, both sides must be considered part of humanity. I acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Can you say the same for Palestine?

as long as they are run by a terrorist organization that conducts kamikaze style attacks to kill women and children, how can they exist peacefully? It’s an absurd question. 

This current argument has been ongoing for two years for one reason and one reason alone, Palestine initiated an attack because it was not happy with Israel forwarding another peace deal in the region. This time with Saudi Arabia

And if people wanna throw out the ridiculous fake attacks of genocide, defend that baseless attack with why there are not 100 million Jews living in that region right now. 

It’s a one-word answer. Why don’t you give it a try

and Hamas speaks for all Palestinians now?

OH THATS RIGHT. ALL PALESTINIANS ARE HAMAS.  I forgot. my bad.

WHATABOUTISM, has NOTHING to do with Palestine, because it occurred before that was a thing


It’s a one word answer, give honesty a try.

"Palestine initiated an attack "

YOUR statement.

And here  I thought Hamas perpetrated that horrific attack. Not those kids subsequently killed by the government of Israel.  But it was the whole of Palestine according to you who did this batbaric thing. Thanks for the correction.

was it the political wing of hamas or the terrorist wing?

We were also told that the West Bank had nothing to do with the events of 10/07 and to bear witness to how well the Palestinians of the West Bank were being treated as evidence. What’s the truth of that statement today?

What if one condones most of Israel’s actions in Gaza but condemns their actions in the West Bank?

you still condone the murder of civilians.

Problem being that Hamas has this awful tendency to hide behind the civilians who are supposed to be their responsibility. In that sense, as disgustingly cold-hearted as it may be it’s moreso Hamas who’s committing murder, knowing the likely Israeli tactic, as well as the godawful concept (but valid) of collateral damage. Smart warfare is still pretty dumb from what I can see.

HughFreakingDillon

Criminal takes child hostage. 
Cops demand criminal release hostage. 
Criminal says no, pulls hostage in front of him. 
Cops shoot criminal, also hitting hostage, killing both. 

Who is the murderer in this situation?

Get_Right

mickeyrat said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

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Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Tell us what the “defeat of Hamas” looks like and what comes after. 

Defenders of Israel act as if the nation of Israel has done nothing wrong to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza and that they’re truly innocent in every thing. Just minding their business, treating Palestinians as equals, not seizing land or homes, imprisoning thousands without charge, restricting movement and committing acts of not only war crimes but genocide. While Palestinians chant “river to the sea” , Israel quietly goes about making it happen. Let’s not pretend these are not truths and let’s not lie about them occurring.

To achieve peace, both sides must be considered part of humanity. I acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Can you say the same for Palestine?

as long as they are run by a terrorist organization that conducts kamikaze style attacks to kill women and children, how can they exist peacefully? It’s an absurd question. 

This current argument has been ongoing for two years for one reason and one reason alone, Palestine initiated an attack because it was not happy with Israel forwarding another peace deal in the region. This time with Saudi Arabia

And if people wanna throw out the ridiculous fake attacks of genocide, defend that baseless attack with why there are not 100 million Jews living in that region right now. 

It’s a one-word answer. Why don’t you give it a try

and Hamas speaks for all Palestinians now?

OH THATS RIGHT. ALL PALESTINIANS ARE HAMAS.  I forgot. my bad.

WHATABOUTISM, has NOTHING to do with Palestine, because it occurred before that was a thing


It’s a one word answer, give honesty a try.

"Palestine initiated an attack "

YOUR statement.

And here  I thought Hamas perpetrated that horrific attack. Not those kids subsequently killed by the government of Israel.  But it was the whole of Palestine according to you who did this batbaric thing. Thanks for the correction.

was it the political wing of hamas or the terrorist wing?

We were also told that the West Bank had nothing to do with the events of 10/07 and to bear witness to how well the Palestinians of the West Bank were being treated as evidence. What’s the truth of that statement today?

What if one condones most of Israel’s actions in Gaza but condemns their actions in the West Bank?

you still condone the murder of civilians.

Can modern day war happen with the death of civilians?

HughFreakingDillon

Get_Right said:

mickeyrat said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

mickeyrat said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Get_Right said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

^^^^^^^^^

Roughly $1.4 billion a year as opposed to Israel’s $4B per year just from the US alone, and $310B since its inception. But everything is equal, eh?

No it’s not equal. That is my point. Has not been for a long time. But let’s protest in a country that gives us a billion plus each year. Dumb.

Or let’s misrepresent facts.

Yes, let’s protest US tax dollars contributing to genocide. Want to make things equal? Give Palestine a well armed military so it can defend itself and $4B in aid per year. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Do not hate the players, hate the game. It seems to me that there were many years of peace in that region. What changed? How do you expect the Israelis to respond? One of the toughest armies in the world. Right because that is hypocrisy and genocide. It is not like they are protecting what they believe is theirs just as the Palestinians are fighting for what they believe is theirs. The problem is that most of the world favors Israel over Palestine. I am not sure that is an accident. 

Tell us what the “defeat of Hamas” looks like and what comes after. 

Defenders of Israel act as if the nation of Israel has done nothing wrong to the Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza and that they’re truly innocent in every thing. Just minding their business, treating Palestinians as equals, not seizing land or homes, imprisoning thousands without charge, restricting movement and committing acts of not only war crimes but genocide. While Palestinians chant “river to the sea” , Israel quietly goes about making it happen. Let’s not pretend these are not truths and let’s not lie about them occurring.

To achieve peace, both sides must be considered part of humanity. I acknowledge Israel’s right to exist. Can you say the same for Palestine?

as long as they are run by a terrorist organization that conducts kamikaze style attacks to kill women and children, how can they exist peacefully? It’s an absurd question. 

This current argument has been ongoing for two years for one reason and one reason alone, Palestine initiated an attack because it was not happy with Israel forwarding another peace deal in the region. This time with Saudi Arabia

And if people wanna throw out the ridiculous fake attacks of genocide, defend that baseless attack with why there are not 100 million Jews living in that region right now. 

It’s a one-word answer. Why don’t you give it a try

and Hamas speaks for all Palestinians now?

OH THATS RIGHT. ALL PALESTINIANS ARE HAMAS.  I forgot. my bad.

WHATABOUTISM, has NOTHING to do with Palestine, because it occurred before that was a thing


It’s a one word answer, give honesty a try.

"Palestine initiated an attack "

YOUR statement.

And here  I thought Hamas perpetrated that horrific attack. Not those kids subsequently killed by the government of Israel.  But it was the whole of Palestine according to you who did this batbaric thing. Thanks for the correction.

was it the political wing of hamas or the terrorist wing?

We were also told that the West Bank had nothing to do with the events of 10/07 and to bear witness to how well the Palestinians of the West Bank were being treated as evidence. What’s the truth of that statement today?

What if one condones most of Israel’s actions in Gaza but condemns their actions in the West Bank?

you still condone the murder of civilians.

Can modern day war happen with the death of civilians?

the US was able to hunt down, locate, and kill Bin Laden. Israel can do the same with hamas. But that isn't bibi's objective.