PJ20 boot
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I was at both shows. I haven't listened to the audience recordings in a few years, but from what I recall Ed flubbed a lot of lyrics, and I think he said during the second show that they were playing "Reach Down" again because it didn't sound good enough night one.
Regardless, I enjoyed the hell out of both shows, it was a fun event.0 -
I don’t mind a sloppy performance for a bootleg. Sloppy by PJ standards is still a good show. The main thing I hate for bootlegs are poor quality recordings.
Theres enough good quality and good shows already available, I don’t need another one. I’d rather have something that was memorable, like PJ20. I’d be more likely to buy that than some random show from 20 years ago I didn’t attend - I’d probably buy both, but would look forward to the one more than the other.
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I have nothing but great memories from that whole weekend. Loved every minute of it.I LOVE MUSIC.
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I don’t remember the shows having a single bad moment. I remember being freezing cold in the rain, but the whole thing was magicalPearl Jam
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Loved both shows. Night 1 was fairly sloppy... just not their tightest/best, but there were some great highlights. Stardog Champion was pretty choice. Night 2 was better performed, but perhaps more hits heavy.
Members of PJ performed during so many other band's sets those days... It's understandable that their performances were less polished.0 -
Ryan said:Night 1 was one of the sloppiest shows, maybe even sloppiest, out of the 70 times I’ve seen Pearl Jam.
I don't specifically remember the band sounding shambolic. I liked the inclusion of several "Lost Dogs"; I did not care for the litany of uninspired covers: "Arms Aloft" and "Public Image" as well as "Kick Out the Jams" and "The New World." And Pearl Jam should never "cover" "Setting Forth."
If they were shambolic, I'm not sure what their excuse was since they had plenty of time to rehearse (not that rehearsal is something they've ever embraced, as far as I can tell).
The most shambolic show(s) I've ever heard were the two in Oakland in 2022 when Matt had COVID. They were really exciting because there was so much energy in the room, especially the first night, but it was apparent live-- and really apparent on the CDs-- that some of the songs were in danger of falling apart at any moment. (I have it on good authority that the band itself felt this way.) Anyway, if they released those shows (and they did), I can't imagine that performance quality is what's keeping PJ20 from being released (and, again, I don't have any specific recollection that they sounded that bad in Wisconsin).I gather speed from you fucking with me.0 -
BF25394 said:Ryan said:Night 1 was one of the sloppiest shows, maybe even sloppiest, out of the 70 times I’ve seen Pearl Jam.
I don't specifically remember the band sounding shambolic. I liked the inclusion of several "Lost Dogs"; I did not care for the litany of uninspired covers: "Arms Aloft" and "Public Image" as well as "Kick Out the Jams" and "The New World." And Pearl Jam should never "cover" "Setting Forth."
If they were shambolic, I'm not sure what their excuse was since they had plenty of time to rehearse (not that rehearsal is something they've ever embraced, as far as I can tell).
The most shambolic show(s) I've ever heard were the two in Oakland in 2022 when Matt had COVID. They were really exciting because there was so much energy in the room, especially the first night, but it was apparent live-- and really apparent on the CDs-- that some of the songs were in danger of falling apart at any moment. (I have it on good authority that the band itself felt this way.) Anyway, if they released those shows (and they did), I can't imagine that performance quality is what's keeping PJ20 from being released (and, again, I don't have any specific recollection that they sounded that bad in Wisconsin).0 -
Yeah, the 2013 Oakland show was much more "shambolic" than the 2022 Oakland shows. It seemed like every Yield song they attempted blew up in their faces.When they introduced the bootlegs in 2000, they specifically mentioned they would be released "warts and all," as someone else mentioned in this thread. Poor performances have never been a reason to not release bootlegs. It has to be something else with PJ20.0
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It wasn't just any old gig though. This isn't Fresno in 2000, etc it was Alpine Valley for their own twentieth birthday celebration.
I wish PJ would rehearse more. It's unfortunate we have to wait until their fifth gig for them to hit their stride when they perform 9-20 shows a year.I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell.
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I will say night 1 was underwhelming. Night two though I think was pretty damn good.1998: Mansfield, MA (9/15)
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SVRDhand13 said:To me PJ20 was the most epic experience of all time whether the boots sound good or not.___________________________________________
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