PJ20 boot

Bunting10
Bunting10 Massachusetts, USA Posts: 774
in The Porch
I’m pretty sure this may get asked annually, but what the heck, when will we see an official boot of PJ20?  Maybe a vault box set?  Although I think it would deserve a wider release.  

I’m listening to the crowd recording today and would love an official one at some point.  Night 2 was the best PJ concert (out of 26) that I’ve been to!
1998: Mansfield, MA (9/15)
2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30)
2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9)
2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25)
2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24)
2010: Boston, MA (5/17)
2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4)
2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25)
2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7)
2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4)
2022: Camden, NJ (9/14)
2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,568
    It's being saved for the Riot Act Deluxe Box Set due to Help Help being played.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Bunting10
    Bunting10 Massachusetts, USA Posts: 774
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    It's being saved for the Riot Act Deluxe Box Set due to Help Help being played.
    Haha It missed the Yield 25th anniversary though with Push Me Pull Me (which strangely I’ve seen twice). 
    1998: Mansfield, MA (9/15)
    2000: Virginia Beach, VA (8/3), Saratoga Springs, NY (8/27), Mansfield, MA (8/29 and 8/30)
    2003: Albany, NY (4/29), Mansfield, MA (7/2 and 7/3), New York, NY (7/8 and 7/9)
    2006: Hartford, CT (5/23), Boston, MA (5/24 and 5/25)
    2009: Chicago, IL (8/23 and 8/24)
    2010: Boston, MA (5/17)
    2011: East Troy, WI (9/3 and 9/4)
    2013: Worcester, MA (10/15 and 10/16), Hartford, CT (10/25)
    2016: Boston, MA (8/5 and 8/7)
    2018: Boston, MA (9/2 and 9/4)
    2022: Camden, NJ (9/14)
    2024: Boston, MA (9/15 and 9/17)
  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,271
    1) It won't be released due to the band not liking how it sounds.

    2) It can't be released due to legal issues with the guest artists.

    That's what I've heard as rumor/conjecture.
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  • kmcmanus
    kmcmanus Posts: 897
    edited July 2023
    Lost In Ohio said:
    1) It won't be released due to the band not liking how it sounds.

    2) It can't be released due to legal issues with the guest artists.

    That's what I've heard as rumor/conjecture.
    I mean, one of the guest artists does have a pretty litigious widow, as Matt well knows.
    I would love boots of the 2016 Temple tour and I’d imagine she is why we haven’t seen them. If not the whole tour boots at least a live album.
  • evenflow82
    evenflow82 Posts: 3,892
    I was there for both nights...

    The band was under rehearsed and it was kind of shambolic. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,897
    I’ve always heard the bad wasn’t happy with they way they played/sounded.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    I thought that entire weekend was beautiful and I hope the shows see the light of day. 
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  • Ryan
    Ryan Posts: 1,233
    edited July 2023
    Night 1 was one of the sloppiest shows, maybe even sloppiest, out of the 70 times I’ve seen Pearl Jam.  
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,897
    I was so anxious about not making it night 1 I didn’t notice if they were sloppy or not.
    was the first trip my girlfriend (now wife) had taken together. The directions to the venue were horrendous. The hotel handed out maps that were wrong, Google maps was wrong. We were driving around seemed like an extra hour and half trying to find it. We pulled into some random store to ask for directions as a limo was pulling out, the told was that was Rodman asking for directions too.
    Finally got there, got my tickets (and vault 1) and entered the venue as PJ took the stage. Had great seats N1, sat down about the time they finished the first song.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,568
    edited July 2023
    mace1229 said:
    I’ve always heard the bad wasn’t happy with they way they played/sounded.
    What does "always" mean. From how many sources did you hear this, and where from?

    Or is it just things people writing here on the forum out of their ass, that people later pick up on and use as their "I have heard" sources?

    The same with someone above saying a rumor is legal issues with guest artists. From where is this rumor? Someone just writing something out of nowhere on this forum, or someone actually having heard it from someone working with Pearl Jam or Nugs or Rolling Stone.

    Is it things people have heard, or is it things people repeat that is nothing more than just once writings by clueless users on here.
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,568
    Regarding PJ20. It obviously have everything to do with expectations, but the buzz and speculations before was huge (lineup and where they might play) and then when the website for it launched with the lineup etc to me it was a sure "naw, not worth going for".
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Kwieneke
    Kwieneke Indiana Posts: 2,122
    evenflow82 said:
    I was there for both nights...

    The band was under rehearsed and it was kind of shambolic. 
    I don't think i have ever heard this. any first hand witnesses care to share a story?
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    Chicago 1 9.5.2023. Chicago 2 9.7.2023. 
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    Seattle 5.30.2024  Noblesville 8.26.2024  Chicago 8.29.2024  Chicago 8.31.2024 
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  • hypnotist collector
    hypnotist collector Posts: 106
    I was lucky enough to score 10c tickets after the whole PJF5 fiasco most had to endure (myself included). Night 1 was, at the time, the closest seat that I had been awarded up to that point in my PJ live show career. So I was bursting with anxious and exquisite excitement for the guys to play and it’s why I was so enthralled by the show that night (and again the second night). What some may deem as the band sounding “sloppy”’ or “shambolic” was part of the evening’s joy. There was such a feeling of unrestrained possibility after every song ended. This was a fest for PJ die-hands after all. What would they play next? How deep would the cut be? Who would they bring out? It was an electric night, and the set list was mind-blowing. So please please please Pearl Jam and 10c if you are listening, consider releasing these shows as either a Vault release(s) or their own special thing. But damn, warts and all, this was a watershed moment in the pantheon of live Pearl Jam show. My opinion. Cheers to all :)
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,897
    edited July 2023
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mace1229 said:
    I’ve always heard the bad wasn’t happy with they way they played/sounded.
    What does "always" mean. From how many sources did you hear this, and where from?

    Or is it just things people writing here on the forum out of their ass, that people later pick up on and use as their "I have heard" sources?

    The same with someone above saying a rumor is legal issues with guest artists. From where is this rumor? Someone just writing something out of nowhere on this forum, or someone actually having heard it from someone working with Pearl Jam or Nugs or Rolling Stone.

    Is it things people have heard, or is it things people repeat that is nothing more than just once writings by clueless users on here.
    I’m just saying thats the rumor that keeps repeating, that’s all.
    I didn’t claim to have insider knowledge. But this question comes up at least a few times a year and that is probably the most common response. Whether it is true or not, I don’t know.
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,981
    neither show is in my top ten-15, but the weekend was one of the most fun.....just having a good time, cubs game, packers home opener, pre parties.....meeting a ton of people
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,897
    My guess is, whether they like the show or not, it will one day be released. In 15 years from now when they’re feeling too old to go on a stadium tour, they’ll realize they can make an easy few hundred thousand bucks by just releasing it, and they will.
    Same goes for Wrigley 2013. Both shows that a lot of people want and would be easy sellers.
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,795
    Ryan said:
    Night 1 was one of the sloppiest shows, maybe even sloppiest, out of the 70 times I’ve seen Pearl Jam.  

    Sounds like we will never get this bootleg released as a Vault. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,604
    My guess has always been they are holding it back for a special release at some point. 

    For what it's worth, I was at the Montreal show a few days later and they sounded great. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,568
    Sloppy is more rock and roll than tight but riding a specially designed lamp during porch
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 Posts: 10,981
    i remember buying the " 27 club" print 4/6 from the artists there......been hanging since, it was def merch a pol oza 

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