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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,642
    Lerxst1992 said:
    josevolution said:
    Maybe one of the MAGA residents here can tell us what happened? How many things was he supposed to end on day one two three or never 
    what a fucking 🤡! 


    At least he is trying for peace.


    according to this thread, perhaps your comment, Bidens path to peace was more weapons. Israel tries that approach, and they are baby exterminators. But when democrats try it, it’s fine.
    😂😂 if you believe that he’s trying for peace next he’ll try to strong arm Zelensky on behalf of Putin are you really ok with the president of these United States of America doing Russia’s bidding?
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,610
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    If people respond with AI shit, I'm not gonna engage.

    you mean you don't want to both sides a genocide, or both sides ukraine's position in the war? come on, man.

    I'm just saying, if I'm gonna take my time to transcribe my own thoughts (with links or citations when needed), I'd expect the people I'm engaging with to do the same. 

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    Tim Simmons said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    If people respond with AI shit, I'm not gonna engage.

    you mean you don't want to both sides a genocide, or both sides ukraine's position in the war? come on, man.

    I'm just saying, if I'm gonna take my time to transcribe my own thoughts (with links or citations when needed), I'd expect the people I'm engaging with to do the same. 

    i agree. same here. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,610
    Ukraine was a sovereign country that was attacked.

    Palestine/Israel/Gaza is a 70+ year old knot of conflict.

    massive difference.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    josevolution said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    josevolution said:
    Maybe one of the MAGA residents here can tell us what happened? How many things was he supposed to end on day one two three or never 
    what a fucking 🤡! 


    At least he is trying for peace.


    according to this thread, perhaps your comment, Bidens path to peace was more weapons. Israel tries that approach, and they are baby exterminators. But when democrats try it, it’s fine.
    😂😂 if you believe that he’s trying for peace next he’ll try to strong arm Zelensky on behalf of Putin are you really ok with the president of these United States of America doing Russia’s bidding?
    in the end we know how this war will turn out. trump will cut off funding to ukraine and then let russia take it.

    funny considering the billions we have spent there to protect our interests and our ally and trump is just going to waste all of it.

    when you think about it, it is easy to see how he went bankrupt 6 times and even bankrupted casinos.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    Tim Simmons said:
    Ukraine was a sovereign country that was attacked.

    Palestine/Israel/Gaza is a 70+ year old knot of conflict.

    massive difference.
    Proof?
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,916
    Tim Simmons said:
    If people respond with AI shit, I'm not gonna engage.



    seems like it has a hell of a lot to offer than rambunctious one sided extreme opinions…




    Whether AI is "good" or "shit" for analyzing the accuracy of political opinions is a complex question with no simple answer. It's more accurate to say that AI is a powerful tool with significant potential and equally significant pitfalls in this domain.



    Here's a breakdown of the pros and cons:
    The "Good" - How AI Can Help
     * Data Analysis and Trend Identification: AI can process vast amounts of data from various sources—news articles, social media, polls, and public records—to identify trends, sentiment, and patterns that would be impossible for humans to analyze manually. This can help researchers and policymakers understand public opinion on a massive scale.

     * Fact-Checking and Disinformation Detection: AI can be used to develop tools that identify and flag misinformation and disinformation, including deepfakes and manipulated content. By cross-referencing information with reliable sources, AI can help in the fight against fake news.


     * Predictive Modeling: Some AI models are used to forecast the outcomes of elections or predict the consequences of political decisions by running simulations with varying parameters. While not always accurate, this can provide valuable insights.
     * Understanding Political Persuasion: Researchers are using AI, specifically large language models, to study how political persuasion works. They can create and test different types of messages to see what influences people's attitudes and voting behavior.



    The "Shit" - The Major Challenges and Risks

     * Political and Algorithmic Bias: This is the most significant issue. AI models are trained on data, and that data reflects the biases of the people who created it and the society from which it was sourced. This can lead to AI systems that have a built-in political slant. Studies have shown that many AI models have a left-leaning bias, which can affect the way they present information and answer questions about political topics.
     * The Problem of "Accuracy" in Politics: Unlike a math problem, political opinions often don't have a single, objective "correct" answer. "Accuracy" can be subjective. What one person considers a factual statement, another might see as a biased opinion. AI systems can struggle with this nuance, and their "analysis" may simply reflect the dominant or most-represented viewpoints in their training data, rather than an objective truth.
     * The Creation of Misinformation: AI, particularly generative AI, can be used to create highly convincing but entirely false content (e.g., deepfakes, fake news articles, and "bot" generated public sentiment) at a scale never before possible. This can be used to manipulate public opinion and sow distrust in democratic processes.
     * Lack of Context and Real-Time Information: AI models are often trained on a static dataset up to a certain point in time. They can't always account for new, fast-breaking events or shifts in public sentiment that have occurred since their last training. This can lead to inaccurate or outdated analysis, as seen in a case where an AI model trained on data before a major political event failed to predict the outcome.
     * False Illusion of Certainty: AI systems can give the impression that they are providing a definitive, objective, and accurate analysis. This can lead to what is known as a "false illusion of certainty," where people over-rely on the AI's output without questioning its underlying assumptions, biases, or limitations.
    In conclusion, while AI has the potential to be a valuable tool for analyzing and understanding political discourse, it is far from perfect. Its usefulness is severely limited by the inherent biases in its training data, the subjective nature of political "truth," and the risk of being used to spread disinformation. Therefore, it's more accurate to say that AI is a double-edged sword: it can be a powerful instrument for both objective analysis and dangerous manipulation, and its effectiveness depends entirely on how it is developed, used, and interpreted.

  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,856
    Not to derail off the topic of Russia further, but I don't know if doing a Google search and posting links or copying and pasting the findings are any different. Makes for a good discussion. Maybe?

    I posted in some thread that if people search for stories for the view they want to portray, it may not tell the whole story on the subject(s).
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,610
    It boils down to having someone else write your post. 

    Think of it like a term paper. Links/tweets/etc are like citations. AI is like buying your paper or paying someone to write it for you. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    Tim Simmons said:
    It boils down to having someone else write your post. 

    Think of it like a term paper. Links/tweets/etc are like citations. AI is like buying your paper or paying someone to write it for you. 
    Without the citations and foot notes or a bibliography.

    ”some scholars.”
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,856
    Tim Simmons said:
    It boils down to having someone else write your post. 

    Think of it like a term paper. Links/tweets/etc are like citations. AI is like buying your paper or paying someone to write it for you. 
    Thanks for that explanation.
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    2013: 11/16 OKC
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    COOTWH looked shook in that beast film with Putin on the ritz smiling/laughing.
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  • mickeyrat
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    Tim Simmons said:
    Ukraine was a sovereign country that was attacked.

    Palestine/Israel/Gaza is a 70+ year old knot of conflict.

    massive difference.

    70 yr old colonization project you mean.
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  • DE4173
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    1993: 11/22 Little Rock
    1996; 9/28 New York
    1997: 11/14 Oakland, 11/15 Oakland
    1998: 7/5 Dallas, 7/7 Albuquerque, 7/8 Phoenix, 7/10 San Diego, 7/11 Las Vegas
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  • josevolution
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    https://www.axios.com/2025/08/16/putin-trump-summit-territory-claims-donetsk
    I’m not sure if this picture but who the fuck shakes hands like that! What a wimp 😂😂
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    DE4173 said:

    How many hoods in that signature?
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
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    At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they talked about taking over Canada/the Arctic or some shit. I fully believe that Russia has something on Trump, and that's on top of everything about Trump. It's all just a terrible situation, and anyone who thinks Trump actually has "peace" on his mind is an idiot. If somehow this war ends, and Trump has anything to do with it, there will be more trouble. Bad shit either way I think. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,642
    PJ_Soul said:
    At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they talked about taking over Canada/the Arctic or some shit. I fully believe that Russia has something on Trump, and that's on top of everything about Trump. It's all just a terrible situation, and anyone who thinks Trump actually has "peace" on his mind is an idiot. If somehow this war ends, and Trump has anything to do with it, there will be more trouble. Bad shit either way I think. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,916
    DE4173 said:
    Not to derail off the topic of Russia further, but I don't know if doing a Google search and posting links or copying and pasting the findings are any different. Makes for a good discussion. Maybe?

    I posted in some thread that if people search for stories for the view they want to portray, it may not tell the whole story on the subject(s).
    Tim Simmons said:
    It boils down to having someone else write your post. 

    Think of it like a term paper. Links/tweets/etc are like citations. AI is like buying your paper or paying someone to write it for you. 


    Is there discussion here DE? What the far left posts here are anecdotal news stories from one side. And emotional angry sarcastic posts.

    no one here cares about solving problems, only here as a safe space to trumpet one side of the truth.


    when I post ai, the purpose is to provide balance, information and data.
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,916
    edited 2:30PM
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Tim Simmons said:
    It boils down to having someone else write your post. 

    Think of it like a term paper. Links/tweets/etc are like citations. AI is like buying your paper or paying someone to write it for you. 
    Without the citations and foot notes or a bibliography.

    ”some scholars.”


    SO WHAT, if that’s what AI quoted. The purpose to life to being in a forum is to enhance understanding.

    your comments are the perfect example of what is wrong in this era, and why internet communications fail our society

    your strategy is to find an author or a former position in power who agrees with your point. All that does is demonstrate you’re opinion shopping, like you just posted those newspaper opinion pieces in the mid east topic. It offers zero solutions to finding a pathway to end the conflict, it only casts blame.

    .


    and despite what Tim thinks, objective intelligence provides value, IF ONE IS WILLING TO CONSIDER OBJECTIVE TRUTH



    THE following can be applied to either the Russia or Israel wars, and it comes from a place of intelligence…sums up this forum perfectly…and better than anything the far left posts here.

    ..




    Blame is generally not considered a good way to end a war. While it may feel necessary to assign responsibility for the conflict and the suffering it caused, focusing on blame can be counterproductive to achieving a lasting peace.
    Here's why:

     * Entrenches Conflict: Assigning blame can deepen animosity and resentment between warring parties. It creates a "winner" and "loser" dynamic, which can make it difficult for the defeated side to accept the terms of a peace agreement.

     * Hinders Reconciliation: For a peace to be sustainable, there often needs to be a process of reconciliation. This requires both sides to move beyond a focus on who was at fault and instead work towards rebuilding trust and a shared future. Blame makes this process much harder.

     * Complicates Negotiations: During peace negotiations, focusing on blame can lead to an endless cycle of accusations and counter-accusations. This can stall talks and make it difficult to find common ground.

     * Distracts from the Real Issues: The root causes of a conflict are often complex and multifaceted. Focusing on who is to blame can distract from addressing the underlying political, economic, or social issues that led to the war in the first place.

    Instead of blame, more effective strategies for ending a war and ensuring a lasting peace often involve:

     * Diplomacy and Negotiation: Bringing all parties to the table to negotiate a settlement that addresses their core concerns.

     * Transitional Justice: Implementing mechanisms like truth commissions or tribunals to address past atrocities, but in a way that is forward-looking and focuses on accountability rather than simple blame.

     * Reconciliation and Forgiveness: Promoting processes that allow communities to heal and rebuild trust.
     * Reconstruction and Development: Providing aid and support to help war-torn societies rebuild their infrastructure and economies, which can help to reduce the likelihood of future conflict.
    While understanding the historical context and holding individuals accountable for war crimes is important, using blame as the primary tool to end a war is often an obstacle to achieving a just and lasting peace.

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