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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,812
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/clapper-pushed-compromise-normal-steps-rush-2017-ica-despite-concerns-from-nsa-director

    Clapper is another one in deep sh*t, now that government documents have been declassified.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,101
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/05/eric-trump-russia-investment-golf-course?srsltid=AfmBOorrGE1WHcr_-hJbJNimI4nsdmSoNeR5GKPWzBIEhhaRfZFxyZyr
    Plenty of cash to support the Rapist 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,731
    edited August 14
    shecky said:


    So true. In 2016, the Dems thought Hillary was going to win the presidency and that they would never be caught. Now that declassified government documents have been released, the truth is emerging.
    no one is going to be indicted. This is smoke and mirrors and you are falling for it like a lemming.

    Aren't you like 70 or something? Christ.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And people, er excuse me, cultists, believe this schmuck can negotiate with Putin on the ritz? Good fucking lord, what is wrong with you?

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  • josevolution
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    Fools believe in fools gold and we have a couple here that lap up everything the biggest fool of them all says! 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,101
    I’ve got a 1k that no transcript’s of today’s meeting will see the light of day! Another 1k that Xmas in Ukraine will be the same as last year with bombs raining down! Fuckface will be golfing 
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  • DE4173
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,878
    trump would trade alaska for a nobel peace prize.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,142
    Is anyone surprised?

    Trump-Putin summit ends without concrete deal


    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-putin-meeting-news-08-15-25
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  • josevolution
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    Maybe one of the MAGA residents here can tell us what happened? How many things was he supposed to end on day one two three or never 
    what a fucking 🤡! 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,399
    josevolution said:
    Maybe one of the MAGA residents here can tell us what happened? How many things was he supposed to end on day one two three or never 
    what a fucking 🤡! 


    At least he is trying for peace.


    according to this thread, perhaps your comment, Bidens path to peace was more weapons. Israel tries that approach, and they are baby exterminators. But when democrats try it, it’s fine.
  • Tim Simmons
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    Ukraine and Gaza are not analogous. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 10,265
    Ok, this pretty good.


  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 8,399
    Tim Simmons said:
    Ukraine and Gaza are not analogous. 


    So says your opinion, so it must be fact.
    …


    Ukraine and Israel, despite their very different geopolitical situations and historical contexts, both base their claims to land on a combination of historical, cultural, and political arguments. While the specific details of these claims are unique to each nation, there are notable similarities in the types of justifications they employ.

    1. Historical Continuity and Ancestral Ties:
     * Ukraine: Ukrainian claims to land are rooted in the long and complex history of the region. This includes tracing their ancestry back to the East Slavic tribes and the medieval state of Kievan Rus', which they see as a foundational entity of their nation. They also point to the continuous presence of Ukrainian people on the land despite periods of foreign occupation and control by empires such as the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the Russian Empire. The argument is that the land has been inhabited and cultivated by their ancestors for centuries, establishing a historical right to it.

     * Israel: Israeli claims are based on the ancient Jewish presence in the land of Israel, which is central to Jewish history and identity. This is supported by archaeological evidence and historical texts, including the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh). The argument is that the Jewish people have maintained a continuous, though at times small, presence in the land for over 3,000 years, and that modern-day Israel is a re-establishment of the ancient kingdoms of Israel and Judah.

    2. Cultural and Religious Significance:
     * Ukraine: Ukrainian identity is deeply tied to the land, which is seen as the cradle of their culture, language, and national identity. The land is not just a geographical space but a source of cultural memory, folklore, and national narratives.
     * Israel: The land of Israel, or the Holy Land, holds immense religious significance for Jews. It is the location of biblical events, and many religious laws and practices are tied to the land. The concept of Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel) is central to Judaism, and its sanctity is a core part of the religious and cultural claim to the territory.

    3. Victimhood and Self-Preservation:
     * Ukraine: A key part of the Ukrainian narrative is one of a nation that has been a victim of foreign aggression and attempts at "Russification" or other forms of cultural suppression. The claim to their territory is framed as a defense of their national identity and sovereignty against a powerful neighbor.
     * Israel: The Israeli claim to a national homeland is deeply intertwined with the history of antisemitism and persecution, culminating in the Holocaust. The establishment of a Jewish state is seen as a necessary measure for self-preservation, providing a safe haven for the Jewish people after centuries of diaspora and violence.

    4. Modern Political and Legal Arguments:
     * Ukraine: In the modern context, Ukraine's claim to its internationally recognized borders is based on the principle of national sovereignty and the inadmissibility of acquiring territory by force. This is a core tenet of international law. Ukraine's claim to Crimea and the Donbas region is based on these internationally recognized borders and the fact that Russia's annexation and occupation of these territories are illegal under international law.
     * Israel: While historical and religious claims are foundational, Israel also bases its right to exist and its control over certain territories on modern political and legal developments. This includes the 1947 United Nations partition plan, the results of the 1948 War of Independence, and subsequent conflicts. Israel argues that its territorial control, particularly after wars where it was attacked, is a matter of self-defense and security.

  • static111
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Is anyone surprised?

    Trump-Putin summit ends without concrete deal


    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-putin-meeting-news-08-15-25
    Without zelensky a deal was never going to happen anyway.
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  • DE4173
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  • Tim Simmons
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    If people respond with AI shit, I'm not gonna engage.

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,878
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Is anyone surprised?

    Trump-Putin summit ends without concrete deal


    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-putin-meeting-news-08-15-25
    yeah i am. i thought he would have given everything away and gotten nothing in return.

    which may very well have been what happened. did you see his body language after? almost like a kid that got reprimanded by his father.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,878
    Lerxst1992 said:
    josevolution said:
    Maybe one of the MAGA residents here can tell us what happened? How many things was he supposed to end on day one two three or never 
    what a fucking 🤡! 


    At least he is trying for peace.


    according to this thread, perhaps your comment, Bidens path to peace was more weapons. Israel tries that approach, and they are baby exterminators. But when democrats try it, it’s fine.
    he is trying for a PEACE PRIZE. for his own ego. nothing more.

    he is not trying to end anything. he is negotiating from a position of weakness. because he is an ineffective leader. but by all means please continue to blame democrats.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,878
    Tim Simmons said:
    If people respond with AI shit, I'm not gonna engage.

    you mean you don't want to both sides a genocide, or both sides ukraine's position in the war? come on, man.


    lol yeah i am not responding to ai bullshit anymore either.
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