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  • craigraether
    craigraether Posts: 1,655
    craigraether said:
    JE224127 said:
    I’m shocked at the Noblesville ticket prices that just posted….. 
    those last rows on the other side were $3xx, then $4xx now $6xx... WTF.. Greedy MFers

    Someone bought those 600 seats in Indy... 

  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    edited May 2023
    craigraether said:
    craigraether said:
    JE224127 said:
    I’m shocked at the Noblesville ticket prices that just posted….. 
    those last rows on the other side were $3xx, then $4xx now $6xx... WTF.. Greedy MFers

    Someone bought those 600 seats in Indy... 

    Hopefully not. They were pulling seats & relisting them up til show time last year.

    If someone bought them & they can't go, hoo boy...
    Post edited by Go Animal on
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  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    So... here's the thing. As someone who has worked in tech for a few decades, I know there are plenty of people in a place like Austin who will gladly hand over $1000/ticket for some great seats to a show. It is like sitting courtside or in the first 10 rows of the NBA playoffs. There are people who have money, want to impress a date/client, etc. If the band wants to take 500 of these tickets per show and charge $1000, they are looking at an extra $0.5M in gross per night. Many of us can reasonably understand why they would do that if that's what it takes to make the tour a success, yada, yada, yada.

    I am just not seeing how putting upper bowl tickets for sale at $400 makes any sense at all both from an economics standpoint and a public relations standpoint. There is nothing premium about the tickets.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    kaw753 said:
    So... here's the thing. As someone who has worked in tech for a few decades, I know there are plenty of people in a place like Austin who will gladly hand over $1000/ticket for some great seats to a show. It is like sitting courtside or in the first 10 rows of the NBA playoffs. There are people who have money, want to impress a date/client, etc. If the band wants to take 500 of these tickets per show and charge $1000, they are looking at an extra $0.5M in gross per night. Many of us can reasonably understand why they would do that if that's what it takes to make the tour a success, yada, yada, yada.

    I am just not seeing how putting upper bowl tickets for sale at $400 makes any sense at all both from an economics standpoint and a public relations standpoint. There is nothing premium about the tickets.
    My guess is that TM and promoters sell bands on Premium by saying "We can guarantee you an additional $x amount each show." Then they price some tickets that are truly the best seats, and use scare tactics and false demand to sell the others - like the $400 upper bowl seats you reference. Bands don't care because they get their money and TM must have data that supports doing it this way.

    I do agree, from a PR standpoint it is a bad look. 
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  • jwc6160
    jwc6160 Posts: 393
    kaw753 said:
    So... here's the thing. As someone who has worked in tech for a few decades, I know there are plenty of people in a place like Austin who will gladly hand over $1000/ticket for some great seats to a show. It is like sitting courtside or in the first 10 rows of the NBA playoffs. There are people who have money, want to impress a date/client, etc. If the band wants to take 500 of these tickets per show and charge $1000, they are looking at an extra $0.5M in gross per night. Many of us can reasonably understand why they would do that if that's what it takes to make the tour a success, yada, yada, yada.

    I am just not seeing how putting upper bowl tickets for sale at $400 makes any sense at all both from an economics standpoint and a public relations standpoint. There is nothing premium about the tickets.
    Completely agree with this take. This and manipulating the market and F2F makes it all even worse. I'm in the same boat as the poster above. I'm trying to upgrade my Austin tix and will list my current uppers for over $200 per seat less than some "premium" seats that are currently listed right now a few rows behind me. Its ridiculous. 
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  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    kaw753 said:
    So... here's the thing. As someone who has worked in tech for a few decades, I know there are plenty of people in a place like Austin who will gladly hand over $1000/ticket for some great seats to a show. It is like sitting courtside or in the first 10 rows of the NBA playoffs. There are people who have money, want to impress a date/client, etc. If the band wants to take 500 of these tickets per show and charge $1000, they are looking at an extra $0.5M in gross per night. Many of us can reasonably understand why they would do that if that's what it takes to make the tour a success, yada, yada, yada.

    I am just not seeing how putting upper bowl tickets for sale at $400 makes any sense at all both from an economics standpoint and a public relations standpoint. There is nothing premium about the tickets.
    Aside from the price. 
  • johnny__utah
    johnny__utah New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 201
    kaw753 said:
    So... here's the thing. As someone who has worked in tech for a few decades, I know there are plenty of people in a place like Austin who will gladly hand over $1000/ticket for some great seats to a show. It is like sitting courtside or in the first 10 rows of the NBA playoffs. There are people who have money, want to impress a date/client, etc. If the band wants to take 500 of these tickets per show and charge $1000, they are looking at an extra $0.5M in gross per night. Many of us can reasonably understand why they would do that if that's what it takes to make the tour a success, yada, yada, yada.

    I am just not seeing how putting upper bowl tickets for sale at $400 makes any sense at all both from an economics standpoint and a public relations standpoint. There is nothing premium about the tickets.
    Maybe PJ took the high road and made the actual good seats 10C and threw all those Premiums they agreed to at the back. Either way, that price will have to drop once F2F opens 
  • NewfieintheUSA
    NewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    More premium seats up in Indy, up to $810 now for crappy pavilion seats
  • wwsuicide
    wwsuicide Posts: 1,400
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    More premium seats up in Indy, up to $810 now for crappy pavilion seats
    Are these the same seats just marked up another $200?!!
  • wwsuicide
    wwsuicide Posts: 1,400
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    More premium seats up in Indy, up to $810 now for crappy pavilion seats
    Are these the same seats just marked up another $200?!!
  • jwc6160
    jwc6160 Posts: 393
    way to stay strong Austin peeps. Still the same six $400 "premium" uppers for sale today. Surprised TM is letting them sit there unsold still. 
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  • CO278952
    CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,451
    jwc6160 said:
    way to stay strong Austin peeps. Still the same six $400 "premium" uppers for sale today. Surprised TM is letting them sit there unsold still. 
    the system should drop them in price since there is no demand for them at that price. 
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  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    wwsuicide said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    More premium seats up in Indy, up to $810 now for crappy pavilion seats
    Are these the same seats just marked up another $200?!!
    Yesterday:


    Today:

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    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    I wonder if TM has set aside 10% of the pavilion seats for premium or is it 10% of the total venue for Noblesville. Huge difference if it’s the total venue and they are not selling lawn at the premium markups. 
  • Go Animal
    Go Animal Posts: 7,351
    Go Animal said:
    wwsuicide said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    More premium seats up in Indy, up to $810 now for crappy pavilion seats
    Are these the same seats just marked up another $200?!!
    Yesterday:


    Today:

    Daily reminder, that these could've gone to 10 clubbers, and that if anyone is foolish to buy them at either price, you can only resell them for that same marked-up price.

    Btw, anyone defending Premium: please tell me the difference between seat 11 & seat 12.

    Regardless, keep an eye on this section as show time approaches.

    I will beat this zombie horse until it becomes vapor.
    PJ - 09/23/98: West Palm Beach II, 08/12/00: Tampa, 04/12/03: Orlando, 04/13/03: Tampa, 06/12/08: Tampa, 06/27/08: Hartford, 09/22/09: Seattle II, 04/11/16: Tampa, 05/01 & 05/02/16: MSG I & II, 09/18/21: Sea Hear Now, 10/01 & 10/02/21: Ohana Encore I & II, 05/06 & 05/07/22: Los Angeles (Inglewood) I & II, 09/11/22: MSG, 09/16/22: Nashville, 09/02/23: St. Paul II, 09/07/23: Chicago II, 09/18 & 09/19/23: Austin I & II, 05/16 & 05/18/24: Las Vegas I & II, 08/29 & 08/31/24: Wrigley Field I & II, 09/03 & 09/04/24: MSG I & II, 09/27 & 09/29/24: Ohana Festival I & II

    EV - 08/04 & 08/05/08: (Eddie solo, w/Liam Finn) NYC I & II, 11/27 & 11/28/12: (Eddie solo, w/Glen Hansard) Orlando I & II, 02/09 & 02/10/22: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Chicago I & II, 09/30/23: (Eddie & the Earthlings) Ohana Festival

    Song Wishlist: Alone, Let Me Sleep, Brother, full W.M.A., Hold On, Bugs/all of Vitalogy, Mankind, Around The Bend (full band), The Long Road, Don't Gimme No Lip, Pilate, Push Me Pull Me, All Those Yesterdays, Rival, Parting Ways, Ghost, Bu$hleaguer, WWS, Parachutes, Army Reserve, low octave Driftin', Strangest Tribe, Other Side, Undone, Fatal, Hitchhiker, Education, Black Red Yellow, Of the Earth, Love Reign O'er Me, Gonna See My Friend, Santa Cruz, Infallible, Yellow Moon, Alright, Comes Then Goes, and the Mamasan Trilogy.

    Wanted Posters: WPB '98, Tampa/WPB '00, Tampa '03, EV Batmobile '08        ISO: any picks, or setlists from any of my shows!
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,324
    PJNB said:
    I wonder if TM has set aside 10% of the pavilion seats for premium or is it 10% of the total venue for Noblesville. Huge difference if it’s the total venue and they are not selling lawn at the premium markups. 
    Based on the 10C presale announcement, with 10C stating they reserved the majority of GA lawn, I’m thinking it’s 10% of the covered seats.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • jwc6160
    jwc6160 Posts: 393
    Go Animal said:
    Go Animal said:
    wwsuicide said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    More premium seats up in Indy, up to $810 now for crappy pavilion seats
    Are these the same seats just marked up another $200?!!
    Yesterday:


    Today:

    Daily reminder, that these could've gone to 10 clubbers, and that if anyone is foolish to buy them at either price, you can only resell them for that same marked-up price.

    Btw, anyone defending Premium: please tell me the difference between seat 11 & seat 12.

    Regardless, keep an eye on this section as show time approaches.

    I will beat this zombie horse until it becomes vapor.
    about 5 venue beers???
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  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    jwc6160 said:
    Go Animal said:
    Go Animal said:
    wwsuicide said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    More premium seats up in Indy, up to $810 now for crappy pavilion seats
    Are these the same seats just marked up another $200?!!
    Yesterday:


    Today:

    Daily reminder, that these could've gone to 10 clubbers, and that if anyone is foolish to buy them at either price, you can only resell them for that same marked-up price.

    Btw, anyone defending Premium: please tell me the difference between seat 11 & seat 12.

    Regardless, keep an eye on this section as show time approaches.

    I will beat this zombie horse until it becomes vapor.
    about 5 venue beers???
    Especially at Deer Creek. And then they expect you to tip 15-25%. For what? Handing me two cans of beer and opening them (which I begged you not to do to begin with)?
  • Kwieneke
    Kwieneke Indiana Posts: 2,109
    aisleseats said:
    jwc6160 said:
    Go Animal said:
    Go Animal said:
    wwsuicide said:
    NewfieintheUSA said:
    More premium seats up in Indy, up to $810 now for crappy pavilion seats
    Are these the same seats just marked up another $200?!!
    Yesterday:


    Today:

    Daily reminder, that these could've gone to 10 clubbers, and that if anyone is foolish to buy them at either price, you can only resell them for that same marked-up price.

    Btw, anyone defending Premium: please tell me the difference between seat 11 & seat 12.

    Regardless, keep an eye on this section as show time approaches.

    I will beat this zombie horse until it becomes vapor.
    about 5 venue beers???
    Especially at Deer Creek. And then they expect you to tip 15-25%. For what? Handing me two cans of beer and opening them (which I begged you not to do to begin with)?
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,829
    I hate tipping customs nowadays. The self-serve kiosk with a pickup line, then prompts you for an 18% tip?
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