Indy/Noblesville: Roll Call and Discussion

Hankj25

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Having the same discussion with myself after spending airfare for 3, etc.  It’s not the band’s fault, stuff happens…but this trip will probably be the last one where I fly in to see them…if they are where I am..or I can drive…I’m in.  But doing flights and hotels (and time frankly)…isn’t in my future. 

That being said, I’m sure the next set list will be ridiculous and my jealousy will rage…followed by a firm commitment to empty my bank account to see them for one of the only 4 shows next year somewhere in Europe…

RT228921

Is anyone surprised how late in the day they made the announcement? 

mattbel123

RT228921 said:

Is anyone surprised how late in the day they made the announcement? 

Not really. Disappointing, but it tells me whoever was sick was literally giving it their all and was hoping to make it.

RT228921

Ya, that’s what I was thinking too. Hope it’s not Ed’s voice. Rest of tour in jeopardy then. I found about about tonight’s show on the flight to Indy. Ooof

mattbel123

RT228921 said:

Ya, that’s what I was thinking too. Hope it’s not Ed’s voice. Rest of tour in jeopardy then. I found about about tonight’s show on the flight to Indy. Ooof

Bummer, I’m sorry man. I made a 6 hour drive and found out as I checked into the hotel.

BSully

I got lucky as this is a home show for me, I'm only out the less than hour drive.
So, we hung out, got the merch we wanted, and got a nice dinner.

RT228921

I literally deplaned and got back on the same plane back to Denver. Bummed about missing PJ. Bummed about no St. Elmo’s spicy shrimp cocktail. 

whoyouare72

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

The second Chicago show was beyond incredible so in my opinion yes it’s still worth it. I just got back to Chicago from Indy.

dougfloyd

whoyouare72 said:

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

The second Chicago show was beyond incredible so in my opinion yes it’s still worth it. I just got back to Chicago from Indy.

I will second this.  I am back at hope still trying to process what just happened today but the Chicago N2 show was one of the best I've ever been to.

know1

mattbel123 said:

RT228921 said:

Is anyone surprised how late in the day they made the announcement? 

Not really. Disappointing, but it tells me whoever was sick was literally giving it their all and was hoping to make it.

You're not as jaded as I am. I think that's a business decision. 

Reads11

know1 said:

mattbel123 said:

RT228921 said:

Is anyone surprised how late in the day they made the announcement? 

Not really. Disappointing, but it tells me whoever was sick was literally giving it their all and was hoping to make it.

You're not as jaded as I am. I think that's a business decision. 

If they legit knew yesterday and didn't say anything I'd be so fxcking pissed 

Weston1283

seanclaxton said:

seanwon said:

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Sacramento and Vegas were canceled. They aren't getting rescheduled.  There is a difference between canceled and postponed. 

All I've heard all night is how it's been postponed and they’re gonna come back and do the best show. Acting like this is different to all the shows people missed out on last summer. Postponed or cancelled makes no difference to your emotions when you at the venue and they pull the plug

When’s the last time they actually made up a cancelled show?? Raleigh is still waiting from 2016

jrfigg

incredebell said:

seanwon said:

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Sacramento and Vegas were canceled. They aren't getting rescheduled.  There is a difference between canceled and postponed. 

My bad, I thought they were postponed. So maybe there is hope for Indy. Hopefully they don't change it to cancelled later. 

This is the only reason I’m not as devastated as the Vegas cancellation, this one is “postponed” for now 

Reads11

jrfigg said:

incredebell said:

seanwon said:

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Sacramento and Vegas were canceled. They aren't getting rescheduled.  There is a difference between canceled and postponed. 

My bad, I thought they were postponed. So maybe there is hope for Indy. Hopefully they don't change it to cancelled later. 

This is the only reason I’m not as devastated as the Vegas cancellation, this one is “postponed” for now 

They are only saying PP so they don't piss a lot of people off. They rarely make up shows and I don't see it. Hope I'm wrong though 

pjman75

If anybody has a XL show shirt they can part with, please let me know. Thank you!

darwinstheory

Reads11 said:

jrfigg said:

incredebell said:

seanwon said:

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Sacramento and Vegas were canceled. They aren't getting rescheduled.  There is a difference between canceled and postponed. 

My bad, I thought they were postponed. So maybe there is hope for Indy. Hopefully they don't change it to cancelled later. 

This is the only reason I’m not as devastated as the Vegas cancellation, this one is “postponed” for now 

They are only saying PP so they don't piss a lot of people off. They rarely make up shows and I don't see it. Hope I'm wrong though 

Kind of what I've been thinking as well. Hope I'm wrong.

hairgrowth2001

Come back and play after Texas, no merch. An evening with.

Weston1283

Reads11 said:

jrfigg said:

incredebell said:

seanwon said:

incredebell said:

Sacramento and Vegas are still waiting for rescheduled 2022 dates. They were completely ignored for this 2023 mini tour. 

So I wouldn't consider it a given that Indy will get a 2024 date. Who knows how far along in the supposed 2024 tour planning process they are. Who knows the logistics involved with that.

Even assuming Indy gets a 2024 date, all it takes is one band member getting sick and it could get postponed again. Or bad weather could cause it to get postponed.

I almost want to book multiple shows next year just as an insurance policy in case one of them gets postponed.

I'm wallowing in the moment, but... between the merch ridiculousness, show postponements, the struggle to get tickets, the shorter setlists, I wonder if it's worth the trouble anymore.

Sacramento and Vegas were canceled. They aren't getting rescheduled.  There is a difference between canceled and postponed. 

My bad, I thought they were postponed. So maybe there is hope for Indy. Hopefully they don't change it to cancelled later. 

This is the only reason I’m not as devastated as the Vegas cancellation, this one is “postponed” for now 

They are only saying PP so they don't piss a lot of people off. They rarely make up shows and I don't see it. Hope I'm wrong though 

After the last few years, the fact that they said “postponed” makes me believe they already have a loose roadmap planned for 2024, and that Indy fits into it perfectly.  People in other parts of the Rust belt should feel great about that wording.

Hankj25

The skeptic in me says they used the words “postponed” because it buys them time.  I don’t think they had the ability to confirm or at least start working on a 24 date in Indy based on a few hours of a person being sick (on a Sunday no less).  

Given the amount of shows they’ve had to miss and didn’t get them rescheduled…I’m not that optimistic.  I’ll take the refund when they finally come clean.  

DragonsAfter3or4

Hankj25 said:

The skeptic in me says they used the words “postponed” because it buys them time.  I don’t think they had the ability to confirm or at least start working on a 24 date in Indy based on a few hours of a person being sick (on a Sunday no less).  

Given the amount of shows they’ve had to miss and didn’t get them rescheduled…I’m not that optimistic.  I’ll take the refund when they finally come clean.  

Concur.