Official 2023 Ticket Lottery Results Thread

Doug87

superfuzz30 said:

Ince.es said:

I did this for the Chicago shows... I will update it here:
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/297793/chicago-shows-which-was-your-priority/

This is absolutely fucked up. You are telling me sections 121 and 113 have no 10 club allocation? Is this all going to be premium? If so, this is just terrible. SECOND these seating spots are absolutely jacked up.

Someone really needs to approach PJ management about increasing the prices of the majority of their seats (higher quality) and ditching this PJ Premium concept.

The money they actually take home from this can easy made up by revising their pricing model AND still be very reasonable pricing (using a 2 tier system which they are at the point that they should do anyways).

10% is a lot of seats when you’re talking about a high demand show, ignoring even locations aspect of it.

Doug87

setlist41 said:

This may sound really stupid,  but since no denial emails yet, you think this morning they'll try add more members to shows or should I continue to drink my coffee and get my morning started 🤔 

I suspect tonight will be when any additional (reallocated) tickets would go out.

person posted that they had until 9pm EST to resolve their card issue per their email.

JBob87

superfuzz30 said:

Ince.es said:

I did this for the Chicago shows... I will update it here:
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/297793/chicago-shows-which-was-your-priority/

This is absolutely fucked up. You are telling me sections 121 and 113 have no 10 club allocation? Is this all going to be premium? If so, this is just terrible. SECOND these seating spots are absolutely jacked up.

I bet there are a TON of VIP/Friends and family holds for the Chicago shows as well. Gotta fit the whole rosters of the Cubs, Bulls, Bears, Hawks and maybe even Sox down there somewhere. 

Jadler

Doug87

JBob87 said:

superfuzz30 said:

Ince.es said:

I did this for the Chicago shows... I will update it here:
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/297793/chicago-shows-which-was-your-priority/

This is absolutely fucked up. You are telling me sections 121 and 113 have no 10 club allocation? Is this all going to be premium? If so, this is just terrible. SECOND these seating spots are absolutely jacked up.

I bet there are a TON of VIP/Friends and family holds for the Chicago shows as well. Gotta fit the whole rosters of the Cubs, Bulls, Bears, Hawks and maybe even Sox down there somewhere. 

You raise an excellent point.

I’d bet the prime hold backs that get released later will be larger than normal.

mace1229

superfuzz30 said:

Ince.es said:

I did this for the Chicago shows... I will update it here:
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/297793/chicago-shows-which-was-your-priority/

This is absolutely fucked up. You are telling me sections 121 and 113 have no 10 club allocation? Is this all going to be premium? If so, this is just terrible. SECOND these seating spots are absolutely jacked up.

Actually, seating doesn't look as backwards seeing it layer out. With the exception of the first few being in the 300s, it more or less follows seniority. 

amethgr8

when I try to pull up my requests to see if they are unfulfilled, it page now requesting a code.  Probably due to VF.  not sure, anyone can see their requests?

cblock4life

Leezestarr313 said:

All of those people with the lower numbers that are so disappointed... Did you get to see some great shows in the past? Better than any of us chopped livers with the "bad" numbers? Oh, the times of "front row tickets!" - I barely scraped by them. You pay how much for that membership? Is it like 30 bucks right now? A year? I understand wanting better tickets, we all want to have the best we can, but some of y'all really come across as a bit entitled. The band probably enjoys seeing newer faces and enthusiasm up front every so often too. Times change. I had the most wonderful experiences with this band, and before the last Baltimore show (the only one I could afford last time around and that was first postponed and then cancelled because of venue issues) I had won some and lost some. And I was always happy to get 10c tix so I did not have to deal with the general sale. Things have gotten so much better than during the PJ20 sale (where I got lucky!). Why not be happy for newer members too? Do you want it all just for yourselves? Because you pay a measly membership fee? I hope everyone who got tickets will enjoy the shows, I know I will, being in the fucking building and meeting with good friends, old and new. (I do feel with the ones that are now seemingly shut out because of CC balance limits.)

Seems that those who are in the 300 sections with better seniority than - let’s say you - have every reason to be upset,  yet many congratulated those who recently received seats that belong to those who have been paying membership fees since the 90’s (were you even born yet?) .  I’m positive that this is not how the band intended for this lottery.  So try hard to be respectful of what the band intended.  Your post was definitely not necessary and totally disrespectful and antagonistic.  

BloodMeridian80

Eddieredder said:

static111 said:

Eddieredder said:

pjalli said:

static111 said:

wsimon74 said:

J Shandler said:

ZS55810 said:

chiwhitesox said:

100% agree. The entitlement associated with so many of these posts is really gross. It seems like most people got into the band when they were 15 or 16 and still act like teenagers when things don’t go their way. 

It’s a concert - either you got tickets or you didn’t, and when you enter a lottery you don’t get to pick your seat. It’s part of the game and always has been. Getting a ticket to a show has never been a guaranteed part of the club membership, but so many people on here are acting like it’s their birthright to see this band every time they play. Wish you all could just chill. 

Most of the people are aren’t complaining about not winning the lottery. It’s the people like 93xxx who has 300 level seats instead of 100 level when some guy who joined in 2015 has great seats who have a legitimate gripe. Your point is taken, but seniority isn’t being taken into account in some cases 

Not to play Devil's advocate, but I think people have a legitimate gripe. One of the tenants of the 10C was that seating assignment is based upon membership. The lottery is one thing, either you get a ticket or you don't, and membership seniority has nothing to do with that selection. However, correct me if I'm wrong, but historically, once you got selected for the lottery, your seats were ostensibly based upon your seniority in the fan club. It's one of the reasons we all continue to pay the membership fee.  For some reason, this tour, that is obviously not the case, and understandably some people are frustrated by that fact.  I don't think 10C intended that seat assignments to be completely random, but there's obviously been some sort of change or error that has not been adequately explained to 10C members. I think the fault lies directly at the feet of TM, but that's just me. 

Yes they literally lay this out as a benefit of being a member and paying your dues.  How some people think that expecting to get what you pay for is crying is beyond me.  I think they have a serious hero worship complex.

Exactly this. I mean words should have meaning right? We pay our increasing annual membership dues in exchange for a dwindling amount of benefits, one of the few remaining is supposedly seniority-based seating. The tour post by the band detailed how this was supposed to work for this tour (with seniority factored in), we made our purchase decisions, and then they didn't follow through on what we were told would be the process. But I'm not allowed to care?

The sole benefit is having the chance to get tix at face value. Thats it. Thats what you pay for. The singles and t shirts are gone. If you expect more, need to adjust. Its changed and with that your expectations need to change too. 

Where does it state that the benefit of having a membership is a chance at tickets for face value?
Ten Club Membership Benefits:

• Priority Ticketing - Ten Club holds the best tickets in the house for members-only presale opportunities and rewards longtime fans for their dedication with seniority-based seating. Ten Club strives to continually improve upon its ticketing program to ensure that fan club members have access to the most tickets possible per show. 

Clearly states seniority based seating rewards and improving the ticketing program.  I don't see over paying for 300 level tickets anywhere in the benefits.

On a base level. When you break it all down, that is the end all benefit. A chance for tix. 

Alternative: no tix and resale. 

Seniority-based seating. It’s right there, and it didn’t happen.

superfuzz30

mace1229 said:

superfuzz30 said:

Ince.es said:

I did this for the Chicago shows... I will update it here:
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/297793/chicago-shows-which-was-your-priority/

This is absolutely fucked up. You are telling me sections 121 and 113 have no 10 club allocation? Is this all going to be premium? If so, this is just terrible. SECOND these seating spots are absolutely jacked up.

Actually, seating doesn't look as backwards seeing it layer out. With the exception of the first few being in the 300s, it more or less follows seniority. 

Go through there and see how many are misplaced. Lets say its 10-12, example the 203xxx, thats right around my number in the 300s section. Guy right BELOW him is 110. All im saying, if thats you and your number, how would you feel being the "well its not that bad they only misplaced a few." This is just a small sample size for now as well, so I'll also say I'd like to see it when its more full but clearly off to a bad start.

Merkin Baller

cblock4life said:

Leezestarr313 said:

All of those people with the lower numbers that are so disappointed... Did you get to see some great shows in the past? Better than any of us chopped livers with the "bad" numbers? Oh, the times of "front row tickets!" - I barely scraped by them. You pay how much for that membership? Is it like 30 bucks right now? A year? I understand wanting better tickets, we all want to have the best we can, but some of y'all really come across as a bit entitled. The band probably enjoys seeing newer faces and enthusiasm up front every so often too. Times change. I had the most wonderful experiences with this band, and before the last Baltimore show (the only one I could afford last time around and that was first postponed and then cancelled because of venue issues) I had won some and lost some. And I was always happy to get 10c tix so I did not have to deal with the general sale. Things have gotten so much better than during the PJ20 sale (where I got lucky!). Why not be happy for newer members too? Do you want it all just for yourselves? Because you pay a measly membership fee? I hope everyone who got tickets will enjoy the shows, I know I will, being in the fucking building and meeting with good friends, old and new. (I do feel with the ones that are now seemingly shut out because of CC balance limits.)

Seems that those who are in the 300 sections with better seniority than - let’s say you - have every reason to be upset,  yet many congratulated those who recently received seats that belong to those who have been paying membership fees since the 90’s (were you even born yet?) .  I’m positive that this is not how the band intended for this lottery.  So try hard to be respectful of what the band intended.  Your post was definitely not necessary and totally disrespectful and antagonistic.  

Condescending too. People can f off with their own interpretations of what the membership benefits mean when it comes to the lottery & seniority based seating. 

The membership benefits are laid out clear as day, and the band didn't honor them.  

People have a right to be upset when they don't get what they pay for. 

JeBurkhardt

myoung321 said:

PresentlyAlive said:

CB6978 said:

logan5ive said:

J Shandler said:

JimmyV said:

pjtroy34 said:

Innocent question…what is so bad about center floor seats behind the pit?  Wish I could find a few earlier posts to quote, but they are here.  

No elevation and there a ton of people in front of you. Otherwise they are fine. If you are tall it's a good spot. 

I’d rather be anywhere in 100/200 levels than on the floor behind the pit. Very hard to see, uncomfortable, etc. Just my opinion 

this

Hard disagree. If you’re not in GA and have an assigned seat these are the absolute best seats in any house. 

Lemme guess...You're not short. I'm 5'9". My wife is 5'2". I'd rather have just about any seat in the house other than the back of the floor. Can't see shit back there. 

We've sat on the 2nd row of the floor twice and hated it... I'm 6"0 and my wife hated it even more, she's 5'4"... 

I am 5' 11" and can usually see ok most of the time until everybody holds up the cell phones and then unless you are 6'6" and above you are screwed. My wife is 5'4" also, she is SOL when it comes to the floor.

loladog1

mikeliska said:

https://tenclub-us.shop.ticketstoday.com/EventList.aspx

Is that asking for an access code for everyone else now?

Yep

darwinstheory

JimmyV said:

Can't believe we went through sandwiches and Greta Van Fleet and I never thought to make it about dogs. For Shame!

Truth. Dogs FTW. Every. Single. Time.

jdopj

superfuzz30 said:

mace1229 said:

superfuzz30 said:

Ince.es said:

I did this for the Chicago shows... I will update it here:
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/297793/chicago-shows-which-was-your-priority/

This is absolutely fucked up. You are telling me sections 121 and 113 have no 10 club allocation? Is this all going to be premium? If so, this is just terrible. SECOND these seating spots are absolutely jacked up.

Actually, seating doesn't look as backwards seeing it layer out. With the exception of the first few being in the 300s, it more or less follows seniority. 

Go through there and see how many are misplaced. Let’s say it’s 10-12, example the 203xxx, thats right around my number in the 300s section. Guy right BELOW him is 110. All im saying, if thats you and your number, how would you feel being the "well its not that bad they only misplaced a few." This is just a small sample size for now as well, so I'll also say I'd like to see it when it’s more full but clearly off to a bad start.

But where are sections 112,113,121,122?
those were always my seats?

JeBurkhardt

Well it looks like I wasn't chosen for Indy lawn. It was my priority 3. The way they worded it saying they had the majority of tickets for the lawn,  it seemed like a given that they would be available for anyone who put in for them.

PJNB

Merkin Baller said:

cblock4life said:

Leezestarr313 said:

All of those people with the lower numbers that are so disappointed... Did you get to see some great shows in the past? Better than any of us chopped livers with the "bad" numbers? Oh, the times of "front row tickets!" - I barely scraped by them. You pay how much for that membership? Is it like 30 bucks right now? A year? I understand wanting better tickets, we all want to have the best we can, but some of y'all really come across as a bit entitled. The band probably enjoys seeing newer faces and enthusiasm up front every so often too. Times change. I had the most wonderful experiences with this band, and before the last Baltimore show (the only one I could afford last time around and that was first postponed and then cancelled because of venue issues) I had won some and lost some. And I was always happy to get 10c tix so I did not have to deal with the general sale. Things have gotten so much better than during the PJ20 sale (where I got lucky!). Why not be happy for newer members too? Do you want it all just for yourselves? Because you pay a measly membership fee? I hope everyone who got tickets will enjoy the shows, I know I will, being in the fucking building and meeting with good friends, old and new. (I do feel with the ones that are now seemingly shut out because of CC balance limits.)

Seems that those who are in the 300 sections with better seniority than - let’s say you - have every reason to be upset,  yet many congratulated those who recently received seats that belong to those who have been paying membership fees since the 90’s (were you even born yet?) .  I’m positive that this is not how the band intended for this lottery.  So try hard to be respectful of what the band intended.  Your post was definitely not necessary and totally disrespectful and antagonistic.  

Condescending too. People can f off with their own interpretations of what the membership benefits mean when it comes to the lottery & seniority based seating. 

The membership benefits are laid out clear as day, and the band didn't honor them.  

People have a right to be upset when they don't get what they pay for. 

+1 it is as simple as that. 10C still has a chance to address this. If it goes unmentioned then we know where we stand. 

BH304897

superfuzz30

jdopj said:

superfuzz30 said:

mace1229 said:

superfuzz30 said:

Ince.es said:

I did this for the Chicago shows... I will update it here:
https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/297793/chicago-shows-which-was-your-priority/

This is absolutely fucked up. You are telling me sections 121 and 113 have no 10 club allocation? Is this all going to be premium? If so, this is just terrible. SECOND these seating spots are absolutely jacked up.

Actually, seating doesn't look as backwards seeing it layer out. With the exception of the first few being in the 300s, it more or less follows seniority. 

Go through there and see how many are misplaced. Let’s say it’s 10-12, example the 203xxx, thats right around my number in the 300s section. Guy right BELOW him is 110. All im saying, if thats you and your number, how would you feel being the "well its not that bad they only misplaced a few." This is just a small sample size for now as well, so I'll also say I'd like to see it when it’s more full but clearly off to a bad start.

But where are sections 112,113,121,122?
those were always my seats?

Exactly my friend, mine too. Thats what I touched on in my first post about this. Im guessing premium?

logan5ive

on2legs said:

I’m not seeing any shows this tour but I feel awful for how this turned out for everyone.  

Two thoughts come to mind…

1.  It’s extremely important that seniority be honored for seating assignment.  Not only does it show loyalty to fans, but more importantly seniority is why people renew their memberships every year.  We pay dues every year - even when there are no tours. Sometimes it’s 3,4, or 5 years between tours in some areas.  If you fail to honor seniority for seat assignment then there’s zero incentive to keep your membership active in non touring years.  Instead we could just renew when the tour rumors begin and take random seat assignments. 

2. The fiasco created here by Ticketmaster is another example of why monopolies are so bad.  It’s not just that we are forced to pay whatever fees they feel like charging, but there is really no alternative for the next tour.  In any other business, the ten club would seek out another vendor to handle its business after the way Ticketmaster botched this sale.  But the reality is there are no alternatives.  They have no choice but to go back to Ticketmaster on the next tour. So there’s zero incentive for TM to spend the money to fix what went wrong and we will get more of the same awful service next time. 

100%.